NFC Divisonal Playoffs: Seahawks @ Packers Sunday, Jan 12th, 5:40PM

[pacopete4]

While I don’t hate anything Packers related, football fandom changed for me after that debacle. Not because my first player love moved on to another team but the entire situation was such a mess it turned me off towards being so invested. I don’t think I’ve followed the Packers/NFL nearly as close as I used to.

 

That situation was a mess 99% because of the player you loved.

 

Eh, that’s just simply not true. He was a part of it, sure, but this is just not correct.

[pacopete4]

While I don’t hate anything Packers related, football fandom changed for me after that debacle. Not because my first player love moved on to another team but the entire situation was such a mess it turned me off towards being so invested. I don’t think I’ve followed the Packers/NFL nearly as close as I used to.

 

That situation was a mess 99% because of the player you loved.

 

Eh, that’s just simply not true. He was a part of it, sure, but this is just not correct.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

I had soured on Favre long before Rodgers was even drafted because the crunch time picks had reached such a level of predictability I just wanted him off the team. When the Rodgers thing went down I hated Favre. Over the years I appreciate Favre a bit more and every time Rodgers pouts I can't help but think Favre didn't really play that way. Wasn't as whiney on the field and can't see him passively getting a coach fired the way Rodgers did. I like Rodgers, but they are just two polar opposites as people.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

I had soured on Favre long before Rodgers was even drafted because the crunch time picks had reached such a level of predictability I just wanted him off the team. When the Rodgers thing went down I hated Favre. Over the years I appreciate Favre a bit more and every time Rodgers pouts I can't help but think Favre didn't really play that way. Wasn't as whiney on the field and can't see him passively getting a coach fired the way Rodgers did. I like Rodgers, but they are just two polar opposites as people.

[adambr2]

While I don’t hate anything Packers related, football fandom changed for me after that debacle. Not because my first player love moved on to another team but the entire situation was such a mess it turned me off towards being so invested. I don’t think I’ve followed the Packers/NFL nearly as close as I used to.

 

That situation was a mess 99% because of the player you loved.

 

Eh, that’s just simply not true. He was a part of it, sure, but this is just not correct.

 

How not?

 

I appreciate very much what Favre did for the Packers over the years and think he's a good man now in perspective, but the will he/won't he retirement saga had been going on for years every single offseason where he would drag it out long into the offseason. No matter the legacy, a team cannot be held hostage like that by a player every offseason. Team planning, including free agency, drafting, and other budgetary decisions must be made.

 

We put up with it for years and after he announced his retirement we had to plan in that direction. The heir apparent had been here 3 years and we were at the point where if we welcomed Favre back with open arms we were going to need to trade Rodgers and start over our future QB search from scratch.

 

What specifically should the Packers have done differently?

[adambr2]

While I don’t hate anything Packers related, football fandom changed for me after that debacle. Not because my first player love moved on to another team but the entire situation was such a mess it turned me off towards being so invested. I don’t think I’ve followed the Packers/NFL nearly as close as I used to.

 

That situation was a mess 99% because of the player you loved.

 

Eh, that’s just simply not true. He was a part of it, sure, but this is just not correct.

 

How not?

 

I appreciate very much what Favre did for the Packers over the years and think he's a good man now in perspective, but the will he/won't he retirement saga had been going on for years every single offseason where he would drag it out long into the offseason. No matter the legacy, a team cannot be held hostage like that by a player every offseason. Team planning, including free agency, drafting, and other budgetary decisions must be made.

 

We put up with it for years and after he announced his retirement we had to plan in that direction. The heir apparent had been here 3 years and we were at the point where if we welcomed Favre back with open arms we were going to need to trade Rodgers and start over our future QB search from scratch.

 

What specifically should the Packers have done differently?

[adambr2]

I had soured on Favre long before Rodgers was even drafted because the crunch time picks had reached such a level of predictability I just wanted him off the team. When the Rodgers thing went down I hated Favre. Over the years I appreciate Favre a bit more and every time Rodgers pouts I can't help but think Favre didn't really play that way. Wasn't as whiney on the field and can't see him passively getting a coach fired the way Rodgers did. I like Rodgers, but they are just two polar opposites as people.

 

I almost look at them like Boomer vs Millenial. Favre was the old boomer who was quiet and very old school about some things but demanded respect (i.e, I'm not here to babysit Rodgers or whatever he said) back when Rodgers was drafted.

 

Rodgers was the cocky, brash young millennial. I don't mean this in a negative way toward either, just pointing out the contrast. I think over the years they have come to both appreciate each other more and I think there is probably a good deal of mutual respect from both sides.

[adambr2]

I had soured on Favre long before Rodgers was even drafted because the crunch time picks had reached such a level of predictability I just wanted him off the team. When the Rodgers thing went down I hated Favre. Over the years I appreciate Favre a bit more and every time Rodgers pouts I can't help but think Favre didn't really play that way. Wasn't as whiney on the field and can't see him passively getting a coach fired the way Rodgers did. I like Rodgers, but they are just two polar opposites as people.

 

I almost look at them like Boomer vs Millenial. Favre was the old boomer who was quiet and very old school about some things but demanded respect (i.e, I'm not here to babysit Rodgers or whatever he said) back when Rodgers was drafted.

 

Rodgers was the cocky, brash young millennial. I don't mean this in a negative way toward either, just pointing out the contrast. I think over the years they have come to both appreciate each other more and I think there is probably a good deal of mutual respect from both sides.

[AKCheesehead]

I think it’s time we bring ourselves back together here.

 

There’s a playoff game tomorrow.

 

1/18/15 Never Forget

 

I like Russell Wilson but beyond that I hate seattle. People up here are nuts about them and I get hosed out of Packers games on tv if seattle plays at the same time.

 

Screw Pete Carroll and his cheerleading Botox face. He cheated at usc and bailed before the heat came back on him.

 

Screw seattle.

 

I don’t have huge dreams this year but I want Green Bay to win this one bad and I don’t care how they win.

 

Stupid sea chickens.

[AKCheesehead]

I think it’s time we bring ourselves back together here.

 

There’s a playoff game tomorrow.

 

1/18/15 Never Forget

 

I like Russell Wilson but beyond that I hate seattle. People up here are nuts about them and I get hosed out of Packers games on tv if seattle plays at the same time.

 

Screw Pete Carroll and his cheerleading Botox face. He cheated at usc and bailed before the heat came back on him.

 

Screw seattle.

 

I don’t have huge dreams this year but I want Green Bay to win this one bad and I don’t care how they win.

 

Stupid sea chickens.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

 

How not?

 

I appreciate very much what Favre did for the Packers over the years and think he's a good man now in perspective, but the will he/won't he retirement saga had been going on for years every single offseason where he would drag it out long into the offseason. No matter the legacy, a team cannot be held hostage like that by a player every offseason. Team planning, including free agency, drafting, and other budgetary decisions must be made.

 

We put up with it for years and after he announced his retirement we had to plan in that direction. The heir apparent had been here 3 years and we were at the point where if we welcomed Favre back with open arms we were going to need to trade Rodgers and start over our future QB search from scratch.

 

What specifically should the Packers have done differently?

 

This is spot on. The Packers finally said "Enough's enough" on Favre's waffling, and who could blame them? That crap was getting incredibly old. Favre is/was a legend, and did deserve special treatment. What he was doing, though, was basically holding the team hostage every year. It probably could have been less messy, but that crap was all Favre.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

 

How not?

 

I appreciate very much what Favre did for the Packers over the years and think he's a good man now in perspective, but the will he/won't he retirement saga had been going on for years every single offseason where he would drag it out long into the offseason. No matter the legacy, a team cannot be held hostage like that by a player every offseason. Team planning, including free agency, drafting, and other budgetary decisions must be made.

 

We put up with it for years and after he announced his retirement we had to plan in that direction. The heir apparent had been here 3 years and we were at the point where if we welcomed Favre back with open arms we were going to need to trade Rodgers and start over our future QB search from scratch.

 

What specifically should the Packers have done differently?

 

This is spot on. The Packers finally said "Enough's enough" on Favre's waffling, and who could blame them? That crap was getting incredibly old. Favre is/was a legend, and did deserve special treatment. What he was doing, though, was basically holding the team hostage every year. It probably could have been less messy, but that crap was all Favre.

[nodakfan17]

Have a friend on Facebook that still hates the Packers and wishes weekly injury on Rodgers because his feelings are still hurt they threw old man Favre to the street over 10 years ago.

 

I can’t believe their is still a group of people that literally hate the Packers with a burning passion because of that to this day.

You would have thought winning Super Bowl XLV 3 years into his starting QB tenure would have endeared Aaron Rodgers to even the most die hard Favre fans ... apparently not.

[nodakfan17]

Have a friend on Facebook that still hates the Packers and wishes weekly injury on Rodgers because his feelings are still hurt they threw old man Favre to the street over 10 years ago.

 

I can’t believe their is still a group of people that literally hate the Packers with a burning passion because of that to this day.

You would have thought winning Super Bowl XLV 3 years into his starting QB tenure would have endeared Aaron Rodgers to even the most die hard Favre fans ... apparently not.

[nodakfan17]

Screw Pete Carroll and his cheerleading Botox face. He cheated at usc and bailed before the heat came back on him.

The Seahawks also led the league in PED suspensions the year they won the Super Bowl.

[nodakfan17]

Screw Pete Carroll and his cheerleading Botox face. He cheated at usc and bailed before the heat came back on him.

The Seahawks also led the league in PED suspensions the year they won the Super Bowl.

[HarveysWBs]

Speaking of Carroll, I had a thought while reading this blurb from ESPN’s preview of tomorrow’s game:

 

Officiating nugget: Referee Clete Blakeman's regular-season crew threw the second-fewest flags per game (13.8, one flag more than the Vinovich crew). His regular-season crew threw the NFL's fewest number of flags for defensive holding, illegal contact and pass interference (29).

 

Pete Carroll in midweek practice to his secondary: “We’re gonna knife #17 in the kidneys until we get a flag, then we’re going to do it some more.”

[HarveysWBs]

Speaking of Carroll, I had a thought while reading this blurb from ESPN’s preview of tomorrow’s game:

 

Officiating nugget: Referee Clete Blakeman's regular-season crew threw the second-fewest flags per game (13.8, one flag more than the Vinovich crew). His regular-season crew threw the NFL's fewest number of flags for defensive holding, illegal contact and pass interference (29).

 

Pete Carroll in midweek practice to his secondary: “We’re gonna knife #17 in the kidneys until we get a flag, then we’re going to do it some more.”

[PinaMadness]

While I don’t hate anything Packers related, football fandom changed for me after that debacle. Not because my first player love moved on to another team but the entire situation was such a mess it turned me off towards being so invested. I don’t think I’ve followed the Packers/NFL nearly as close as I used to.

 

That situation was a mess 99% because of the player you loved.

 

Eh, that’s just simply not true. He was a part of it, sure, but this is just not correct.

I agree it's not true. It was 100% his fault.

[PinaMadness]

While I don’t hate anything Packers related, football fandom changed for me after that debacle. Not because my first player love moved on to another team but the entire situation was such a mess it turned me off towards being so invested. I don’t think I’ve followed the Packers/NFL nearly as close as I used to.

 

That situation was a mess 99% because of the player you loved.

 

Eh, that’s just simply not true. He was a part of it, sure, but this is just not correct.

I agree it's not true. It was 100% his fault.

[Fear The Chorizo]

 

How not?

 

I appreciate very much what Favre did for the Packers over the years and think he's a good man now in perspective, but the will he/won't he retirement saga had been going on for years every single offseason where he would drag it out long into the offseason. No matter the legacy, a team cannot be held hostage like that by a player every offseason. Team planning, including free agency, drafting, and other budgetary decisions must be made.

 

We put up with it for years and after he announced his retirement we had to plan in that direction. The heir apparent had been here 3 years and we were at the point where if we welcomed Favre back with open arms we were going to need to trade Rodgers and start over our future QB search from scratch.

 

What specifically should the Packers have done differently?

 

This is spot on. The Packers finally said "Enough's enough" on Favre's waffling, and who could blame them? That crap was getting incredibly old. Fabre is/was a legend, and did deserve special treatment. What he was doing, though, was basically holding the team hostage every year. It probably could have been less messy, but that crap was all Favre.

 

I think the other thing that prompted the change was watching tape of that nfc championship game in the cold against the giants and realizing that if gb even had an average performance by their qb they would have won by two scores and gone to the super bowl. Favre had three terrible games his last year in GB...the nfc title game, the cowboys game where he got hurt and rodgers almost led them back, and that cold road loss to a bad bears team in chicago.

 

They knew what they had in rodgers, and it was too good to keep him on the sideline

[Fear The Chorizo]

 

How not?

 

I appreciate very much what Favre did for the Packers over the years and think he's a good man now in perspective, but the will he/won't he retirement saga had been going on for years every single offseason where he would drag it out long into the offseason. No matter the legacy, a team cannot be held hostage like that by a player every offseason. Team planning, including free agency, drafting, and other budgetary decisions must be made.

 

We put up with it for years and after he announced his retirement we had to plan in that direction. The heir apparent had been here 3 years and we were at the point where if we welcomed Favre back with open arms we were going to need to trade Rodgers and start over our future QB search from scratch.

 

What specifically should the Packers have done differently?

 

This is spot on. The Packers finally said "Enough's enough" on Favre's waffling, and who could blame them? That crap was getting incredibly old. Fabre is/was a legend, and did deserve special treatment. What he was doing, though, was basically holding the team hostage every year. It probably could have been less messy, but that crap was all Favre.

 

I think the other thing that prompted the change was watching tape of that nfc championship game in the cold against the giants and realizing that if gb even had an average performance by their qb they would have won by two scores and gone to the super bowl. Favre had three terrible games his last year in GB...the nfc title game, the cowboys game where he got hurt and rodgers almost led them back, and that cold road loss to a bad bears team in chicago.

 

They knew what they had in rodgers, and it was too good to keep him on the sideline

[pacopete4]

The leadership at Lambeau lacked quite a bit during that time and it allowed the situation to even have legs. It never had to play out the way that it did. It started with terrible communication on all fronts.

[pacopete4]

The leadership at Lambeau lacked quite a bit during that time and it allowed the situation to even have legs. It never had to play out the way that it did. It started with terrible communication on all fronts.

[homer]

Favre retired, team moved on, then Favre changed his mind. Team should have traded him right there but they hemmed and hawed about what to do and tried to convince the guy not to come back. That was on GB not Favre. I'm not blaming a guy for deciding he still wants to play. What I blame Favre for is finagling his way to an NFC North team just to stick it to Thompson. So both sides were at fault.