Sogard to Brewers - 1 year, $4.5m w Club Option

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

In theory, what would a Sogard/Healy platoon look like production wise?

 

depression

[A Swing and A Drive]

Grading Stearns Offseason moves so far...

 

Nov 27- Acquired SS Luis Urias and LHP Eric Lauer from Padres for OF Trent Grisham and RHP Zach Davies. Grade: A

Dec 2-13 Signed SS Orlando Arcia, OF Ben Gamel, RP Alex Claudio, OF Keon Broxton Grade: C

Dec 5- Acquired C Omar Narvaez for RHP Adam Hill and Supplemental Draft Pick Grade: A

Dec 11- Signed RHP Josh Lindblom to 3 year deal. Grade: B

Dec 13- Signed LHP Brett Anderson to 1 year deal. Grade: F minus

Dec 16- Signed OF Avasail Garcia to a 2 year deal. Grade: C

Dec 17- Signed 1B/3B Ryon Healy to a 1 year deal. (2 years of arby left) Grade: B

Dec 18- Signed SS/2B Eric Sogard to a 1 year deal. Grade: C

 

Grade Point Average thus far= 2.5

 

If you take away his unwise Brett Anderson signing, David is sporting at fine 2.86 GPA so far.

 

David has been hard at work for the past 3 plus weeks.

 

Please enjoy your Holidays.

 

[3and2Fastball]

In theory, what would a Sogard/Healy platoon look like production wise?

 

At their best? Similar offensive production to what Moustakas produced. Less HR’s, more OBP, less strikeouts. The defense would be worse, however. Sogard doesn’t have the arm, Healy is a below average defensive 3B.

 

That is at their best. Neither have had consistent year to year production like Moustakas. I definitely prefer Sogard/Healy as depth, not a starting platoon.

[SRB]

In theory, what would a Sogard/Healy platoon look like production wise?

 

Neither one of them has pronounced platoon splits, so it probably would help either one much. (Though that arguably makes them excellent bench pieces)

[wallus]

In theory, what would a Sogard/Healy platoon look like production wise?

 

Looking at career stats, neither of them have dramatic splits at all.

[DuWayne Steurer]

In theory, what would a Sogard/Healy platoon look like production wise?

 

 

Healy has almost identical splits vs. Lefties and Righties, almost across the board. He gets on base, and slugs nearly the same against both.

 

Sogard, likewise, has almost identical lefty/righty splits both for his career and last year. Neither of them are guys that need to be platooned, but at the same time, neither of them are guys that should be playing every day.

 

The answer to the question is... what do you expect out of each? I think in reality, a .300/.450..750 slash line is fair to expect out of Healy. I have no idea what to expect out of Sogard. I absolutely don't think he's an .800 OPS guy like he was last year. He's not a power hitter, and I don't think for a second he's a double digit homerun guy again. That being said, if Sogard OBP's .350 or better and plays good defense, the lack of power isn't the end of the world. If he can hit .270 and draw walks and OBP .375.... even better. He's really hard to project. He was a .400 OPS guy two years ago, so who knows?

[wibadgers23]

In theory, what would a Sogard/Healy platoon look like production wise?

 

A top 10 pick in the 2021 draft.

[TJseven7]

Well, I mean, hmmm.

 

When I looked at this roster I saw a need for a guy like Brock Holt at around 4 AAV so I guess this is that? He doesn't strike out. I wanted that. 4.5 sure seems high though. He's had 2 good years and 1 of them he tailed off badly.

 

I think this is the 1st move this off season that I don't quite understand.

[superfly]

i feel like i need a shower after reading this signing.

[SRB]

Well, I mean, hmmm.

 

When I looked at this roster I saw a need for a guy like Brock Holt at around 4 AAV so I guess this is that? He doesn't strike out. I wanted that. 4.5 sure seems high though. He's had 2 good years and 1 of them he tailed off badly.

 

I think this is the 1st move this off season that I don't quite understand.

 

Drew Pomeranz got like $32 million for a good month, so I thought $4 million was actually quite cheap for a guy who had an excellent 2019 and at worst is a glove-first utility guy.

 

I think every list I've seen had Sogard as a top 50 free agent.

[RollieTime]

Well, I mean, hmmm.

 

When I looked at this roster I saw a need for a guy like Brock Holt at around 4 AAV so I guess this is that? He doesn't strike out. I wanted that. 4.5 sure seems high though. He's had 2 good years and 1 of them he tailed off badly.

 

I think this is the 1st move this off season that I don't quite understand.

 

Arcia has to be on the move. I don’t see any way Urias begins in AAA. He has nothing left to prove there. He needs his time at the big league level and will need at bats. Hiura isn’t taking a back seat to anybody.

 

Either Sogard is looked at for third base or Arcia is moved. It pretty much has to be one or the other. Arcia on the move is the much more likely outcome in my opinion. Moving him would make the Sogard acquisition only +$2.3 million in payroll, which is insignificant.

[TJseven7]

 

Drew Pomeranz got like $32 million for a good month, so I thought $4 million was actually quite cheap for a guy who had an excellent 2019 and at worst is a glove-first utility guy.

 

I think every list I've seen had Sogard as a top 50 free agent.

 

But I don't like revisionist adds. His 2019 doesn't mean much to me. He has a long track record of not being 2019 and he only has 3 years over 90 OPS+. 250/320/660 blah and a career OPS+ 82. He's good at 2b 3b and the rest of his utility summed up as not being bad at other spots. It's not like I've been a Perez advocate either. Useful and 4.5 mil is a different level in MKE.

 

 

Arcia has to be on the move.

 

I'm so sick of this SS turnstile we have going on. Trade Escobar before his prime. Trade Segura before his prime. Now we trade Arcia before his prime. Cue up Urias.

[bill hAll Star]

 

Drew Pomeranz got like $32 million for a good month, so I thought $4 million was actually quite cheap for a guy who had an excellent 2019 and at worst is a glove-first utility guy.

 

I think every list I've seen had Sogard as a top 50 free agent.

 

But I don't like revisionist adds. His 2019 doesn't mean much to me. He's good at 2b 3b and the rest of his utility is not being bad at other spots.

 

Well that's still useful. That's kinda what Hernan was.

 

This goes along with certain guys that have reformed their careers post-30. Guys like Soria and Swarzak (maybe not the greatest examples since they bombed a bit in their next contracts) that changed their pitch mix or developed a new pitch. Or Pomeranz adding velocity as a reliever.

 

Sogard has increased his launch angle and hits the ball hard. What do we make of 2018? Because 2017 and 2019 were pretty good since he's made the changes (and keeps changing more).

[TigerUppercut]

Grading Stearns Offseason moves so far...

 

Nov 27- Acquired SS Luis Urias and LHP Eric Lauer from Padres for OF Trent Grisham and RHP Zach Davies. Grade: A

Dec 2-13 Signed SS Orlando Arcia, OF Ben Gamel, RP Alex Claudio, OF Keon Broxton Grade: C

Dec 5- Acquired C Omar Narvaez for RHP Adam Hill and Supplemental Draft Pick Grade: A

Dec 11- Signed RHP Josh Lindblom to 3 year deal. Grade: B

Dec 13- Signed LHP Brett Anderson to 1 year deal. Grade: F minus

Dec 16- Signed OF Avasail Garcia to a 2 year deal. Grade: C

Dec 17- Signed 1B/3B Ryon Healy to a 1 year deal. (2 years of arby left) Grade: B

Dec 18- Signed SS/2B Eric Sogard to a 1 year deal. Grade: C

 

Grade Point Average thus far= 2.5

 

If you take away his unwise Brett Anderson signing, David is sporting at fine 2.86 GPA so far.

 

David has been hard at work for the past 3 plus weeks.

 

Please enjoy your Holidays.

 

 

To all posters: Please remember this post. These are the best ones (ala the Yelich acquisition thread) to go back to down the road. We either have a future GM candidate or a dunce. There's not likely much in between here.

[tmwiese55]

I mean, I have no idea how Anderson can be an F minus. It's just such a low cost low risk move that I don't know anyone can consider it that bad.

[bigredrobbo]

I mean, I have no idea how Anderson can be an F minus. It's just such a low cost low risk move that I don't know anyone can consider it that bad.

 

Yeah, that line almost seems like clickbait. A 1 year deal at that price is the definition of low risk/high reward

[3and2Fastball]

There is no way Avisail Garcia is a C, either, considering his age and the length of the deal. My suspicion is that anybody who grades that signing a C hasn’t seen Garcia play a lot of Baseball.

[SRB]

 

Drew Pomeranz got like $32 million for a good month, so I thought $4 million was actually quite cheap for a guy who had an excellent 2019 and at worst is a glove-first utility guy.

 

I think every list I've seen had Sogard as a top 50 free agent.

 

But I don't like revisionist adds. His 2019 doesn't mean much to me. He has a long track record of not being 2019 and he only has 3 years over 90 OPS+. 250/320/660 blah and a career OPS+ 82. He's good at 2b 3b and the rest of his utility summed up as not being bad at other spots. It's not like I've been a Perez advocate either. Useful and 4.5 mil is a different level in MKE.

 

 

Arcia has to be on the move.

 

I'm so sick of this SS turnstile we have going on. Trade Escobar before his prime. Trade Segura before his prime. Now we trade Arcia before his prime. Cue up Urias.

 

Yes, but if he had a long track record of being 2019 how much would his deal be worth? Moose's would be the starting point. I'm just saying $4.5 million is basically no money for an MLB player, which if anything is low given the season he just had.

[A Swing and A Drive]

The F minus for Brett Anderson is obviously a joke. With that being said, I really really dislike the signing because I stronger dislike the player. Also, I find it funny how every terrible SP signed during Stearns tenure going forward will just be assumed to be the next Wade Miley and is thus not allowed to be questioned. lol

 

Garcia is a C because we paid more than market price for him and I also strongly dislike him.

 

If anyone dislikes my arbitrary grades, go ahead and post your own.

 

It would make for some entertaining reading for certain, which was the purpose of my post BTW.

[Eye Black]

Yet another Stearns signing out of left field. Zero rumors about them being in on Sogard. Part of me loves the closeness to the best. Part of me wishes there were more rumors to be had. Either way, solid ball player. If him/Hiura/Urias are the middle infielders... 6 mil ain’t too shabby for them.

To be fair, I don’t think a lot of baseball writers were spending time chasing Eric Sogard rumors.

[Eye Black]

I obviously hope it works out, but I can’t help think this signing reminds me of the Cubs signing of Daniel Descalso last season coming off one of his best seasons. That worked out very poorly for them, hopefully this move proves very dissimilar.

[LouisEly]

Sogard has played 6 full-ish seasons & posted the following WAR totals...

 

2019: 2.6 bWAR | 2.7 fWAR

2018: -0.9 bWAR | -0.8 fWAR

2017: 1.9 bWAR | 1.1 fWAR

2015: 1.0 bWAR | 0.4 fWAR

2014: 0.6 bWAR | 0.1 fWAR

2013: 1.9 bWAR | 1.5 fWAR

Is BALCO back in business?

 

I'm not opposed to giving $4.5M to a LHH utility IF. I'm very opposed to giving it to Eric Sogard.

[long ball]

After letting this one marinade a little bit I think this signing is fine. Obviously I wouldn't expect anyone to get too high or too low based off of a signing of a player like Sogard. The price is fair for a part time player coming off a strong year. The current infielders on the roster were all right handed so a lefty with some positional flexibility makes sense.

 

I am not ready to draw and grand conclusions on what this means for Arcia and Urias. The 26 man roster can fit all of them plus Arcia and Urias could be optioned. Neither has proven they're worth every day at bats either so Sogard complements them.

 

I still think they need at least 1 more bat for the corner infield, likely at third base. The more mid level signings we see like Sogard and Garcia the more I feel like we will be looking at Todd Frazier or Asdrubal Cabrera add instead of something more high profile. It's really too bad that the Cubs would never trade Bryant to the Brewers.

[jonescm128]

Everyone talking about all this money we have saved up for a larger acquisition but I don't think thats going to happen. Stearns loves his flexibility to add at the deadline. The team in March is going to be much different than the team in July and you never know what kind of needs will arise during the season.

 

So everyone hoping for a large FA addition, don't hold your breath.

 

However, I believe there will still be moves to be made as Sogard is likely (hopefully) not going to be the starting 3B.

[bigredrobbo]

After letting this one marinade a little bit I think this signing is fine. Obviously I wouldn't expect anyone to get too high or too low based off of a signing of a player like Sogard. The price is fair for a part time player coming off a strong year. The current infielders on the roster were all right handed so a lefty with some positional flexibility makes sense.

 

I am not ready to draw and grand conclusions on what this means for Arcia and Urias. The 26 man roster can fit all of them plus Arcia and Urias could be optioned. Neither has proven they're worth every day at bats either so Sogard complements them.

 

I still think they need at least 1 more bat for the corner infield, likely at third base. The more mid level signings we see like Sogard and Garcia the more I feel like we will be looking at Todd Frazier or Asdrubal Cabrera add instead of something more high profile. It's really too bad that the Cubs would never trade Bryant to the Brewers.

 

That's just mean - we did let them sign Hernan!