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Game 15: Packers @ Vikings - Monday, December 23, 7:15pm

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"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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Looking forward to it. I haven't sat down to watch the start of one since SF. The last few games I missed either the whole thing or large chunks. I figured they'd make the playoffs so they weren't all that important to see. The playoffs are a lot more interesting to me if they can get a bye. It makes it feel like they have a puncher's chance if there's a skip week and a home game against anyone.

 

Definitely going to be the most hostile environment a lot of this team has ever played in. And after the SF game MLF really needs to have them come out and at least look formidable.

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Line for this game just keeps going up. Vikes by 6 now. The public definitely doesn't think we'll win.

 

FTFY

 

I mean if you are saying that Vegas odds fluctuate based on the betting that comes in from the public I understand that. I wasn't referring to Vegas as a literal person or anything.

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I'd bet Pack to cover +6 but not to win outright.
"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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I'd bet Pack to cover +6 but not to win outright.

 

Me too, this game seems like your typical evenly matched 3 point favorite for the home team. That's a weird spread, I guess the betters have been paying attention to the ugly wins and still remember the niner game.

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Cook likely not playing, their typical backup RB hobbled by a bum ankle - will be interesting to see if the Packers can limit their run game and force the Vikings to make hay passing the ball with an O-line that relies more on play action to pass protect than actual pass blocking. Don't get me wrong - the Vikings are a really good passing offense and they have weapons that will give the Packers' D fits if Cousins has enough time to throw. But, their whole offense is predicated on being able to run the ball and taking advantage of what defenses have to do to limit Cook's explosive plays running it. They are an excellent play action team, but not having a HR hitter RB back there makes play action much less effective.

 

If they can limit the run and negate play action pass plays, I like what they could do as a pass defense because they're going to pressure Cousins. This will be a big test offensively going up against a good pass rush defense on the road.

 

If the line is +6 at this point, I'd expect it much closer to +3.5 come game time - late money will come pouring in on GB

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Vikings rb's will likely be Boone and Abdullah on Monday. I don't buy either of the top 2 guys suiting up. My fantasy season relies on this, I own the top 2 and Boone...so I've been watching this like a hawk. Abdullah has a bit of burst, but Boone seemed like the type that gets what's blocked and not much more. Having Boone back there versus the top 2 is game-changing. Also no Thielen. I also think the Vikings beat back our offense quite a bit as well. This seems like a very low scoring game, I wouldn't want to bet on the Packers outright...but I like them +6 quite a bit as well.
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The story after this one will be the emerging narrative around LaFleur. Either the Packers get their first road win over a good team (Cowboys and Bears weren’t and aren’t good) in his tenure and his team is showing growth towards being elite, or they lose and the question becomes “when will LaFleur win a big game on the road?”

 

While that is what the story will be, what it SHOULD be is, “will Rodgers ever commit to doing what it takes to get everything he can out of this offense—and himself?” For all the angst about scheme, play calls, and pass catching talent (and those are all valid), Rodgers’ technique has become woefully sloppy of late. His throws are off-platform, he’s doing whatever he wants with his feet; it’s like after watching Favre for years and now Mahomes, he thinks to himself “I don’t need to sweat the technique, either.” Or maybe he’s getting lazy. Either way, he doesn’t have the playmakers to not be precise with his delivery. And now that he’s more reticent than ever to push the envelope and risk turnovers, the offense teeters on catastrophic failure half the time.

 

Is it logical to imagine the coaches don’t know this? Is it logical to assume Rodgers doesn’t know it? And if they know and nothing changes, what does that say about the efficacy of their coaching and the mindset of Rodgers? THAT should be the story if the Packers lose. But it won’t be. And that’s a shame.

 

Either way, let’s just hope they win. Winning fixes everything.

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The story after this one will be the emerging narrative around LaFleur. Either the Packers get their first road win over a good team (Cowboys and Bears weren’t and aren’t good) in his tenure and his team is showing growth towards being elite, or they lose and the question becomes “when will LaFleur win a big game on the road?”

 

While that is what the story will be, what it SHOULD be is, “will Rodgers ever commit to doing what it takes to get everything he can out of this offense—and himself?” For all the angst about scheme, play calls, and pass catching talent (and those are all valid), Rodgers’ technique has become woefully sloppy of late. His throws are off-platform, he’s doing whatever he wants with his feet; it’s like after watching Favre for years and now Mahomes, he thinks to himself “I don’t need to sweat the technique, either.” Or maybe he’s getting lazy. Either way, he doesn’t have the playmakers to not be precise with his delivery. And now that he’s more reticent than ever to push the envelope and risk turnovers, the offense teeters on catastrophic failure half the time.

 

Is it logical to imagine the coaches don’t know this? Is it logical to assume Rodgers doesn’t know it? And if they know and nothing changes, what does that say about the efficacy of their coaching and the mindset of Rodgers? THAT should be the story if the Packers lose. But it won’t be. And that’s a shame.

 

Either way, let’s just hope they win. Winning fixes everything.

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Theilen is back.

 

 

Interesting game tonight, if the Rams win it not only helps us with a potential #1 seed it also puts more pressure on the Vikes who are not in yet, they are notorious chokers. Rams have Cards next week and Bears have always been a thorn in the Vikings side.

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Theilen is back.

 

 

Interesting game tonight, if the Rams win it not only helps us with a potential #1 seed it also puts more pressure on the Vikes who are not in yet, they are notorious chokers. Rams have Cards next week and Bears have always been a thorn in the Vikings side.

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Cook is out.
"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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Cook is out.
"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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No matter what happens on Monday, I’m happy with this season (please remind me of that in the GT). They were bad last year and now I can say with confidence that the 2019 Green Bay Packers are definitely ‘less bad.’ Much of what’s already been said regarding this season’s narrative is true. If they beat the Vikings and go 6-0 in the North, they might be a contender. If not, they’ll face questions about their strength of schedule and alarming yardage differential all year long.
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No matter what happens on Monday, I’m happy with this season (please remind me of that in the GT). They were bad last year and now I can say with confidence that the 2019 Green Bay Packers are definitely ‘less bad.’ Much of what’s already been said regarding this season’s narrative is true. If they beat the Vikings and go 6-0 in the North, they might be a contender. If not, they’ll face questions about their strength of schedule and alarming yardage differential all year long.
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Packers came out very strong against Vikes in the first half in GB. I like to think the Bear game got close last because LaFluer was saving some things for the Vikings. Packer offense has played their best this season when Lazard and Kumerow were on the field more instead of Allison and VS. LaFluer needs to keep them on the field more.
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Does a Cardinals win change the way MLF approaches this game? Win out and HFA (assuming Seattle over SF).

 

Why would it change how he approaches it? These last two games both already had enormous implications and remain so. Nothing should change in his approach.

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