Josh Lindblom signs with Brewers - 3 years / $9.125 mil [Latest: Lindblom DFAd]

[SRB]

Meh. Teams that make moves like this generally are looking for

a 5th starter type. We need a 2 3 4 now.

 

[sarcasm]Really? I would argue we need 1 3 4 and 5.

 

One down three to go![/sarcasm]

[Lathund]

Don't know much about the guy other than information like what's been posted in here, and the surface level stats. But on that basis, I like it. $3m AAV is easily worth a bit of a gamble that his stats can translate well to MLB.

[SRB]

Here's some video of him in Korea:

[Brewcrewin07]

Meh. Teams that make moves like this generally are looking for

a 5th starter type. We need a 2 3 4 now.

 

You hit the nail on the head. The Brewers in regards to pitching sign guys that would normally be back end of rotation guys and make them amongst their top starters. NOT a sustainable strategy.

Can you relax? You might as well become a Dodger/Yankee fan.

 

Well, yes or no, is this or is that not what they do as far as starting pitching goes. It's a factual statement.

[stoutdude04]

I like the high spin rate. I wonder if that'll translate with the different size ball/seams.

[Ennder]

Good risk, hopefully it works out. I think it is odd that people still think the path to winning it all is to overpay for starting pitching. That can work if everything else on your team has fallen into place but way more times than not the big ticket starting pitching fails teams, especially when you are dipping into the 2nd tier of them.

[MVP2110]

So currently a rotation of Woodruff, Lauer, Houser, Lindblom, Suter with Burnes or Peralta possibilities as well. Add one more and it seems solid

[Ennder]

So currently a rotation of Woodruff, Lauer, Houser, Lindblom, Suter with Burnes or Peralta possibilities as well. Add one more and it seems solid

 

I would hope they add two more because part of that list of names is likely going to be needed in the bullpen which is kind of thin too.

[areacodes]

 

You hit the nail on the head. The Brewers in regards to pitching sign guys that would normally be back end of rotation guys and make them amongst their top starters. NOT a sustainable strategy.

Can you relax? You might as well become a Dodger/Yankee fan.

 

Well, yes or no, is this or is that not what they do as far as starting pitching goes. It's a factual statement.

 

It is December 11th, none of know if this is the only move they make. You don’t need to keep harping on this in every thread.

[IntentionalHBP]

Can you relax? You might as well become a Dodger/Yankee fan.

 

Well, yes or no, is this or is that not what they do as far as starting pitching goes. It's a factual statement.

 

The Brewers can’t afford to sign high end FA SP, they have to either develop or trade for them. Why complain about it when you and everybody else knows that they can’t do that.

[SRB]

Some people will complain about any signing unless it is Cole or Strasburg. This dude won the KBO Cy Young the last two seasons and the KBO MVP last season, let's get excited!

[brewcrewdue80]

Here's some video of him in Korea:

 

Oh Boy I couldn't finish the video with the terrible batters. Early in it he definitely got away with some meatball/mistakes.

 

Junior Guerra part 2 is what I'm seeing in this signing. Is it not? RH 91MPH FB Splitter/Cutter? You at least have a track record that he can pitch 190innings now vs where Guerra was. Though again those hitters are 4 pitch outs that MLB hitters will induce 6-8 pitch battles. So lower the expectation on that IP potential. I think if the SP isn't there he won't likely make the incentives and so then what we have is a 3mil a year RP. Vs a 6mil a year SP. Values either way.

[AKCheesehead]

Meh. Teams that make moves like this generally are looking for

a 5th starter type. We need a 2 3 4 now.

 

You hit the nail on the head. The Brewers in regards to pitching sign guys that would normally be back end of rotation guys and make them amongst their top starters. NOT a sustainable strategy.

 

In the entire HISTORY of the Milwaukee Brewers organization... please tell me one time that we've signed a free agent TOR guy. Never? Never! So why is it going to happen now that we have the most value minded GM we've ever had?

 

12/5/1990 Teddy Higuera

[SRB]

Here's some video of him in Korea:

 

Oh Boy I couldn't finish the video with the terrible batters. Early in it he definitely got away with some meatball/mistakes.

 

 

Any time you make a highlight reel of a pitcher's best strikeouts, the hitters are going to look bad. "Meatballs" where?

[BrewBalls]

 

You hit the nail on the head. The Brewers in regards to pitching sign guys that would normally be back end of rotation guys and make them amongst their top starters. NOT a sustainable strategy.

Can you relax? You might as well become a Dodger/Yankee fan.

 

Well, yes or no, is this or is that not what they do as far as starting pitching goes. It's a factual statement.

Investing 25% of your total payroll into one starting pitcher who will play in at most 22% of your total games in any given season doesn't sound like a sustainable strategy either. Hence why we have always traded for TOR starters (i.e. CC and Greinke) instead of overspending on pitchers when they are nearing the end of their primes (age 30-32).

 

This is a great signing based on potential upside versus guaranteed cost. If you don't understand why Milwaukee will never outbid the large market teams than you simply do not understand baseball economics.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Plan to use him as a starter...not that this is a terrible move, but I really wish the Brewers would stop treating starting pitching as the redheaded step child. Cheap signings hoping it works out is not a way to build a staff. It might work for a year or possibly two, but long term, no way.

 

 

They've made it work to the tune of two playoff appearances the last two seasons, after finishing a game out in 2017. Don't you think that it just might be possible that these guys know a little bit more than we as fan do about how to build a successful pitching staff?

[Brewcrewin07]

You hit the nail on the head. The Brewers in regards to pitching sign guys that would normally be back end of rotation guys and make them amongst their top starters. NOT a sustainable strategy.

Can you relax? You might as well become a Dodger/Yankee fan.

 

Well, yes or no, is this or is that not what they do as far as starting pitching goes. It's a factual statement.

Investing 25% of your total payroll into one starting pitcher who will play in at most 22% of your total games in any given season doesn't sound like a sustainable strategy either. Hence why we have always traded for TOR starters (i.e. CC and Greinke) instead of overspending on pitchers when they are nearing the end of their primes (age 30-32).

 

This is a great signing based on potential upside versus guaranteed cost. If you don't understand why Milwaukee will never outbid the large market teams than you simply do not understand baseball economics.

 

I get that they can't sign the top end guys, but then dammit, trade for one. Melvin did it with Grienke, and CC, though I would like to get someone with control. I mean, I don't want to trade Hader but at this point if it brings you a PROVEN TOR starter...go for it.

[dacrew101]

Mehhhhh

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

I get that they can't sign the top end guys, but then dammit, trade for one. Melvin did it with Grienke, and CC, though I would like to get someone with control. I mean, I don't want to trade Hader but at this point if it brings you a PROVEN TOR starter...go for it.

 

Melvin did do it with Greinke and CC, and between those and other short-sighted trades, it put this franchise into the dark ages both at the major and minor league levels for several years. But that 2008 run was pretty cool.

 

The Brewers minor league system, as currently constructed, doesn't have the horses to trade for a proven, controllable top end starter. It just isn't gonna happen.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Mehhhhh

 

Awesome ... our resident troll poster has given his thoughts. Thanks!

[patrickgpe]

This is why you need to do in Milwaukee. You can’t sign guys to 300 million dollar deals. This could be a dud, but you can move on without damaging the brewers long term payroll. The meh people are only meh because they haven’t heard of him (neither did I, but i hope he just figured it out in Korea and can help here. If he has a brewers career similar to Thames I think most of us will be happy.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

This is why you need to do in Milwaukee. You can’t sign guys to 300 million dollar deals. This could be a dud, but you can move on without damaging the brewers long term payroll. The meh people are only meh because they haven’t heard of him (neither did I, but i hope he just figured it out in Korea and can help here. If he has a brewers career similar to Thames I think most of us will be happy.

 

I vaguely remember the Brewers slapping him around a bit while he was a Pirate reliever. But after reading about the changes he made during his time overseas, and how he completely remade himself as a pitcher, he was a guy I hoped they'd target. It's really a very low-risk signing and could potentially pay HUGE dividends. I love it.

Edited December 12, 2019 by Joey Meyer Bombs

[adambr2]

I get that they can't sign the top end guys, but then dammit, trade for one. Melvin did it with Grienke, and CC, though I would like to get someone with control. I mean, I don't want to trade Hader but at this point if it brings you a PROVEN TOR starter...go for it.

 

Ok. Can you come up with a proposal of sorts that makes sense for both us and a trade partner? Any suggestions? You can't just say to trade Hader for a TOR starter, it's not that easy. Other teams like having TOR starters as well. Contending clubs aren't usually looking to trade them away, and rebuilding clubs aren't usually looking to trade theirs for relief aces with 4 years of control.

[adambr2]

This is why you need to do in Milwaukee. You can’t sign guys to 300 million dollar deals. This could be a dud, but you can move on without damaging the brewers long term payroll. The meh people are only meh because they haven’t heard of him (neither did I, but i hope he just figured it out in Korea and can help here. If he has a brewers career similar to Thames I think most of us will be happy.

 

I vaguely remember the Brewers slapping him around a bit while he was a young Pirate reliever. But after reading about the changes he made during his time overseas, and how he completely remade himself as a pitcher, he was a guy I hoped they'd target. It's really a very low-risk signing and could potentially pay HUGE dividends. I love it.

 

It's interesting that they went 3 years with him, makes me wonder if they're thinking exactly that, hit big and have two crazy good value years.

[homer]

You hit the nail on the head. The Brewers in regards to pitching sign guys that would normally be back end of rotation guys and make them amongst their top starters. NOT a sustainable strategy.

Can you relax? You might as well become a Dodger/Yankee fan.

 

Well, yes or no, is this or is that not what they do as far as starting pitching goes. It's a factual statement.

Investing 25% of your total payroll into one starting pitcher who will play in at most 22% of your total games in any given season doesn't sound like a sustainable strategy either. Hence why we have always traded for TOR starters (i.e. CC and Greinke) instead of overspending on pitchers when they are nearing the end of their primes (age 30-32).

 

This is a great signing based on potential upside versus guaranteed cost. If you don't understand why Milwaukee will never outbid the large market teams than you simply do not understand baseball economics.

 

I get that they can't sign the top end guys, but then dammit, trade for one. Melvin did it with Grienke, and CC, though I would like to get someone with control. I mean, I don't want to trade Hader but at this point if it brings you a PROVEN TOR starter...go for it.

 

 

Stop bringing this up in every single thread. Thanks.