Strasburg back to Nats - 7 years, $245 million

[JimH5]

I love baseball to my core but that is a stupid amount of money for any body to be paid to play professional baseball.

 

Stras is getting paid the equivalent of a fortune 500 CEO salary. Would you say his skill set is more or less unique than a CEO's?

 

Every player should get every dollar he can get. Otherwise it just goes back to the owners.

[A Swing and A Drive]

To put this in perspective, in 2004, Mark Attanasio purchased the Milwaukee Brewers Franchise for $223 million dollars.

 

Marvin Miller is smiling from his grave, and NOT because of his Hall of Fame Induction.

[homer]

I love baseball to my core but that is a stupid amount of money for any body to be paid to play professional baseball.

 

Stras is getting paid the equivalent of a fortune 500 CEO salary. Would you say his skill set is more or less unique than a CEO's?

 

More. Far more.

[mattyo]

I love baseball to my core but that is a stupid amount of money for any body to be paid to play professional baseball.

 

Stras is getting paid the equivalent of a fortune 500 CEO salary. Would you say his skill set is more or less unique than a CEO's?

 

Lmao what? No he's not, not even close. Average Fortune 500 CEO salary is $11 million.

[SRB]

I think the Nats probably deliberately overpaid to lock in Strasburg as their all-time franchise player. Not sure this affects the open free agent market much.

[adambr2]

I think the Nats probably deliberately overpaid to lock in Strasburg as their all-time franchise player. Not sure this affects the open free agent market much.

 

They paid more than they thought they could sign him for on purpose? I'm not following. Anyway, I think it definitely affects the market, especially for pitchers. If I'm Cole my floor just went up to 300M, and even a pitcher like Ryu should be thinking he can get 4 years now.

[jjgott]

I love baseball to my core but that is a stupid amount of money for any body to be paid to play professional baseball.

 

Stras is getting paid the equivalent of a fortune 500 CEO salary. Would you say his skill set is more or less unique than a CEO's?

 

Lmao what? No he's not, not even close. Average Fortune 500 CEO salary is $11 million.

 

I didn't say average, because Strasburg is also not an average pitcher in his chosen field, and obviously with CEO's there is more to their compensation than straight salary.

 

But, for example, JP Morgan's Jamie Dimon reportedly earned around $31 million in compensation in 2018; Netflix's Reed Hastings $31.5 million; Paypal's Daniel Schulman $37.8 million; T-Mobile's John Legere $66.5 million, so the amount earned by Strasburg is not out of line with compensation for other career fields of supposedly highly specialized talent.

[Eye Black]

One concern I would have about paying that high of an AAV over 7 seasons is that Strasburg will be ten years removed from Tommy John surgery this coming season. I am not an expert on it by any means, but I was under the impression a reconstructed elbow is believed to have a life span for holding up to the stress of major league pitching. If he required a second surgery at some point they will likely be stuck paying $35 million a year for a pitcher they would probably have to convert to a reliever. Certainly an added risk to an already risky long-term deal.

 

Edit: Strasburg has thrown 1,370 innings since his Tommy John Surgery. Among the hundreds of pitchers who have had the surgery, only seven major league pitchers have ever exceeded 1,500 innings pitched after a Tommy John surgery, and only four have exceeded 2,000 innings pitched.

 

Here is the current post-TJ surgery innings pitched leader board (only accounts for MLB innings)...

 

[pre]David Wells 3439.0

Tom Candiotti 2725.0

Tommy John 2544.2

A.J. Burnett 2206.2

Darren Oliver 1915.2

Anibal Sanchez 1895.1*

Jose Mesa 1517.1

Matt Morris 1475.1

C.J. Wilson 1430.1

Ryan Dempster 1423.0[/pre]

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[TigerUppercut]

I love baseball to my core but that is a stupid amount of money for any body to be paid to play professional baseball.

 

Stras is getting paid the equivalent of a fortune 500 CEO salary. Would you say his skill set is more or less unique than a CEO's?

 

More. Far more.

 

I don't even know how to respond to this nonsense. Spend a day, just one, with a CEO. The good ones don't sleep.

[adambr2]

I don't even know how to respond to this nonsense. Spend a day, just one, with a CEO. The good ones don't sleep.

 

Then how the heck does he have time to spend the day with me?

[Brewcrewin07]

To answer the question from the other day:

 

No, 4/120 or 5/150 would not have gotten it done for Stephen Strasburg.

 

Actually it could have...because when I gave that example, it was merely an example based on AAV and not years or anything else. I was assuming it would take about $30 million per year..Stras's contract is about $35 million per year..So I was in the ballpark..and actually when you consider his contract is really 7/165 with 80 million deferred..That's actually only 23.5 million per year. Doable for the Brewers.

[CheezWizHed]

I don't even know how to respond to this nonsense. Spend a day, just one, with a CEO. The good ones don't sleep.

 

Then how the heck does he have time to spend the day with me?

 

He didn't say to talk to you or even acknowledge you...

[Thurston Fluff]

I love baseball to my core but that is a stupid amount of money for any body to be paid to play professional baseball.

 

Stras is getting paid the equivalent of a fortune 500 CEO salary. Would you say his skill set is more or less unique than a CEO's?

 

Lmao what? No he's not, not even close. Average Fortune 500 CEO salary is $11 million.

 

The average baseball player salary is much lower than the average fortune 500 CEO. Strasburg is an elite player so the comparison should be to the elite CEO not the average. I looked it up and in 2018 the highest paid CEO made $129.4 million for the year.

[adambr2]

To answer the question from the other day:

 

No, 4/120 or 5/150 would not have gotten it done for Stephen Strasburg.

 

Actually it could have...because when I gave that example, it was merely an example based on AAV and not years or anything else. I was assuming it would take about $30 million per year..Stras's contract is about $35 million per year..So I was in the ballpark..and actually when you consider his contract is really 7/165 with 80 million deferred..That's actually only 23.5 million per year. Doable for the Brewers.

 

I've seen a lot of spin on the boards over the years but this one takes the whole enchilada.

[JimH5]

To answer the question from the other day:

 

No, 4/120 or 5/150 would not have gotten it done for Stephen Strasburg.

 

Actually it could have...because when I gave that example, it was merely an example based on AAV and not years or anything else. I was assuming it would take about $30 million per year..Stras's contract is about $35 million per year..So I was in the ballpark..and actually when you consider his contract is really 7/165 with 80 million deferred..That's actually only 23.5 million per year. Doable for the Brewers.

 

Deferred money isn't optional. They still have to pay it. In Strasburg's case, it's paid with interest over the 3 years after the 7 year playing contract.

 

5/120 is nowhere close to 7/245.

[TJseven7]

With that type of contract it is doubtful they will also sign Rendon.

 

I think I read that they would only be signing one or the other, and not spending on both.

 

Can you blame them? People projected him in the 30/5 range. 35/7 is a huge contract. People are saying that this is a sign that MKE can't play in FA with the big boys. Yeah, no kidding. This is 1/4 of our yearly payroll. In a year where we spend up.

 

Great player. Zero interest at that price. Prices are running hot this year. Rendon 180mil over 6 is the next major domino. I want this team to spend but not like that. Give me 10 low level upside guys and middle of the road talents on short term deals. You could get 6-7 for Strasburg money alone.

[long ball]

Damn. I wanted the Brewers to sign him. Obviously I wasn't expecting it to actually happen and at that price I'm not sure we will ever see the Brewers sign pitcher of that caliber.

[markedman5]

"I didn't say average, because Strasburg is also not an average pitcher in his chosen field, and obviously with CEO's there is more to their compensation than straight salary.

 

But, for example, JP Morgan's Jamie Dimon reportedly earned around $31 million in compensation in 2018; Netflix's Reed Hastings $31.5 million; Paypal's Daniel Schulman $37.8 million; T-Mobile's John Legere $66.5 million, so the amount earned by Strasburg is not out of line with compensation for other career fields of supposedly highly specialized talent.

 

Jamie Dimon runs a company that has 230,000 employees and made 9 billion dollars last season

 

Strasburg is really good at throwing a baseball.....

 

I don't begrudge him to whatever the market will bear for his services but to compare his impact on the Nationals to a very good CEO is silly talk.

 

I think a talented actor or musician is a better comparison.

[homer]

The comparison was uniqueness of skillset. There are like 12 people in the world that can do what Strasburg does at his skill level. There are probably 12 people at JP Morgan that can do what Dimon does.

[A Swing and A Drive]

The comparison was uniqueness of skillset. There are like 12 people in the world that can do what Strasburg does at his skill level. There are probably 12 people at JP Morgan that can do what Dimon does.

 

This.

 

Also, does anyone else have “This” as a major Pet Peeve?

 

Just me?

[jjgott]

The comparison was uniqueness of skillset. There are like 12 people in the world that can do what Strasburg does at his skill level. There are probably 12 people at JP Morgan that can do what Dimon does.

 

Thank you, yes that is what I was getting at.

[MrTPlush]

Are people really complaining about how much a pro athlete makes? Sigh

[markedman5]

Having a unique skill set doesn't necessarily equate to value. Long drive champions have a unique skill set........

 

Jamie Dimon is more important to the success of JP Morgan then Strasburg is to the Nationals.

 

If they replace him with a decent pitcher they lose what 3 or 4 more games? There are a lot of those guys.

 

Again he's more like an actor.....people will come and see him.play .....he makes the movie better......but without the director none of it works.

 

Everybody is replaceable.......

[markedman5]

Are people really complaining about how much a pro athlete makes? Sigh

 

I'm not......just the comparison to A Fortune 500 CEO.

 

Think it's apples and Oranges

[sveumrules]

Owners don't spend enough!!

 

(Player signs for a quarter billion dollars)

 

Players get paid too much!!