B1G Championship Game - Wisconsin vs Ohio St. - Saturday, Dec 7th, 7PM

[adambr2]

Wisconsin would definitely have a shot and probably likely to be in if they only had one loss and beat OSU today.

 

If georgia beats LSU today and clemson wins, who are you putting a hypothetical 1 loss badgers team in over assuming they win a close game against OSU, who already have a blowout win against the badgers?

 

Probably OSU even though they'd be in the same spot they are in now.

 

You have two Big Ten teams in this scenario, both 1 loss, they played each other twice and split their games. How do you not take the conference champion in that scenario?

[Fear The Chorizo]

For all the insisting that the Clemson coach did that his team won't make it to the CFP if they don't win all their games, it would be kind of funny if that became a self-fulfilling prophecy.

 

I would be stunned if that game winds up within 4 scores...Clemson is rolling again, particularly on defense.

[Fear The Chorizo]

Wisconsin would definitely have a shot and probably likely to be in if they only had one loss and beat OSU today.

 

If georgia beats LSU today and clemson wins, who are you putting a hypothetical 1 loss badgers team in over assuming they win a close game against OSU, who already have a blowout win against the badgers?

 

Probably OSU even though they'd be in the same spot they are in now.

 

You have two Big Ten teams in this scenario, both 1 loss, they played each other and split their games. How do you not take the conference champion in that scenario?

 

Because OSU blew the doors off wisconsin earlier in the year and they are easily a more talented roster. Plus they enter this weekend #1 in the committee's mind. They would do to wisconsin what the committee did to big ten champ Penn state a few years ago.

[adambr2]

Penn State had 2 losses that year, OSU had one. Huge difference. The second loss is what removes our case to get in over OSU and what removed Penn State's that year. We are talking about identical record teams one that is a conference champ and one is not.

 

I think Georgia and Wisconsin would both be in under the scenario. The discussion would be which of LSU and OSU would get in as the 4th non conference champ at-large.

[OldHeidelberg]

Penn State had 2 losses that year, OSU had one. Huge difference. The second loss is what removes our case to get in over OSU and what removed Penn State's that year. We are talking about identical record teams one that is a conference champ and one is not.

 

I think Georgia and Wisconsin would both be in under the scenario. The discussion would be which of LSU and OSU would get in as the 4th non conference champ at-large.

 

For sure, the committee is not going to devalue the conference title when both teams have one loss to the other, badgers would be in for sure and so would Georgia. The B1G has 6 teams in the CFP top 20 and the SEC has 5, no other conferences really comes close to them. Really in that scenario I think both Wis and Ohio State get in and LSU and Big12 champ are left out. I think Wisconsin would have a really good argument against Baylor if they were 4/5 after today but I expect the committee to avoid the controversy and use the 2nd loss as the tiebreaker.

[MrTPlush]

Wisconsin would definitely have a shot and probably likely to be in if they only had one loss and beat OSU today.

 

If georgia beats LSU today and clemson wins, who are you putting a hypothetical 1 loss badgers team in over assuming they win a close game against OSU, who already have a blowout win against the badgers?

 

Well since the talk was largely about Georgia losing (and still making it) I wasn’t really inferring the situation you outline. I think a one loss Wisconsin easily gets in over Georgia if they lost today.

 

Now if that didn’t happen I do not think they jump over OSU. They would have split games against each other and OSU dominated all year. We wouldn’t hop them unless we destroyed them...then maybe. Would they jump LSU or Clemson if they lost? Well...hard to say.

[OldHeidelberg]

The Tax Slayer Bowl?

 

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/28221695/college-football-bowl-projections

[DuWayne Steurer]

The Tax Slayer Bowl?

 

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/28221695/college-football-bowl-projections

 

Wisco vs kentucky... Oof. Nobody needs to see that.

[stoutdude04]

And Oklahoma is going to make the playoff after beating the 25th ranked team and a Baylor team twice that is probably not as good as their ranking and with one of those games against the backup qb.

 

It is too bad that Wisconsin played that awful game against illinois.

[OldHeidelberg]

And Oklahoma is going to make the playoff after beating the 25th ranked team and a Baylor team twice that is probably not as good as their ranking and with one of those games against the backup qb.

 

It is too bad that Wisconsin played that awful game against illinois.

 

 

OT in the Big12!

[OldHeidelberg]

Gah! A 3rd Baylor OT win would have been perfect.

[adambr2]

What an anticlimactic ending. Neither of these teams really look like a top 4 team. Not saying we are either.

 

It's too bad Baylor blew the huge lead in their game a few weeks ago. Baylor would have no real case without the conference title and Oklahoma would have no real case as a 2 loss.

[Fear The Chorizo]

Yep, Oklahoma will get housed in a few weeks

[DuWayne Steurer]

Irregardless of what happens tonight, there's no rational argument for the Badgers to jump Oklahoma. Oklahoma has one loss, to a decent K-State team. Badgers lost to Illinois, got curb stomped by Ohio state, and struggled to beat a really bad Northwestern team. If the Badgers were a 1-loss team, that Northwestern game (and Purdue game) wouldn't matter, but when you're a 2 loss team, you better have a super super impressive resume to get picked over a 1 loss power 5 conference champ, and the Badgers don't have that. They have some nice wins. Michigan, Minny, and Iowa, but that's not enough to make up for losing to Illinois and struggling with Northwestern.

[adambr2]

LSU is taking Georgia out of the discussion. So it looks like Oklahoma is in. Personally I think a win tonight would give us a better resume than Oklahoma but I doubt the committee would see it that way. It will almost be bittersweet if we were to pull off a shocker tonight and make the Rose Bowl knowing that laying an egg in Illinois is the only thing that kept us out of the CFP.

[adambr2]

Irregardless of what happens tonight, there's no rational argument for the Badgers to jump Oklahoma. Oklahoma has one loss, to a decent K-State team. Badgers lost to Illinois, got curb stomped by Ohio state, and struggled to beat a really bad Northwestern team. If the Badgers were a 1-loss team, that Northwestern game (and Purdue game) wouldn't matter, but when you're a 2 loss team, you better have a super super impressive resume to get picked over a 1 loss power 5 conference champ, and the Badgers don't have that. They have some nice wins. Michigan, Minny, and Iowa, but that's not enough to make up for losing to Illinois and struggling with Northwestern.

 

Yeah, I agree. I think the only way to get back into the discussion would be to couple our own upset of OSU with an even bigger shocker of Virginia over Clemson. And I really don't see either of those happening let alone both.

[DuWayne Steurer]

LSU is taking Georgia out of the discussion. So it looks like Oklahoma is in. Personally I think a win tonight would give us a better resume than Oklahoma but I doubt the committee would see it that way. It will almost be bittersweet if we were to pull off a shocker tonight and make the Rose Bowl knowing that laying an egg in Illinois is the only thing that kept us out of the CFP.

 

That's what's really the crapper about the Illinois game. The Badgers are "good enough" about 1 out of 5 years to be serious challengers to get into the CFP, and this was one of those years. Unfortunately, the Buckeyes are out of this world good this year. Point being, we had a chance. And to lay an egg in Illinois just really sucks. We'd be playing to get into the CFP tonight if not for that game in Illinois. We'd still be saying "we'll probably lose to Ohio State", but at least we wouldn't be relying on a series of probably 4 or 5 wildly improbable upsets needing to happen as well.

 

I'll be perfectly happy with the Rose Bowl or a NY6 bowl, don't get me wrong, and this season has still been fun (stomping Minnesota, beating the heck out of Michigan).... I measure success differently than some people ...... but this season definitely has a "coulda been" feel to it.

[RollieTime]

Oklahoma winning definitely put a damper on our chances of getting in, but we will already jump Baylor and Utah in the rankings if we win. A Georgia loss could bump us up to 5. And then it would be between us and Clemson getting in. I do think we still have an outside chance if both Georgia and Clemson lose. Of course we need to somehow take down Ohio State, but we are definitely still alive. LSU seems to be taking care of business of Georgia for us right now.

[DuWayne Steurer]

I'm not going to discount the possibility of passing Clemson, but they are nearly 30 point favorites over Virginia. Them losing and us winning has to be the longest of long shots. And I'm still not sure they committee takes 2 loss Wisconsin over 1-loss, defending Nat'l champ Clemson, unless Virginia blows Clemson's doors off.

[RollieTime]

Oh I agree. They could still take Clemson even if they lose tonight. But I do think it would come down to us and Clemson getting that final spot.

[JosephC]

Clemson is going to kick the snot out of Virginia.

 

Wisconsin will not win.

 

Only thing that makes the playoff fun is that Alabama is out. But more of the same ole'. Ohio State, LSU, Clemson, Oklahoma.

[OldHeidelberg]

Just have to go out and beat Ohio State and let the chips fall where they may. Things may look a little different if we actually do pull off the upset, especially if we can win by a couple of scores. Everyone just assumes they won't that's why there isn't much talk in the media about them.

[adambr2]

Virginia not having much trouble moving the ball early against Clemson. Unfortunately a huge turnover killed their drive and they stand no chance without winning the turnover battle today.

[RollieTime]

Down goes Georgia! Only one to go. Let’s go Virginia!!

[DuWayne Steurer]

Somehow have to figure out a way to slow down Chase Young a little bit. I know that's asking a lot. It's a monumental task. But I hope that's been the bulk of their game plan this week. Somehow slow him down a step.