Hader trade ideas

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Phillies are also a good match. I think a deal for Hader starts with Alec Bohm and Mickey Moniak, and probably one of their high-level pitchers.

[brewcrewdue80]

I don't think Royce Lewis is very good..... More hype then actual talent.. Proceed with caution.

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=lewis-002roy

 

Kirilloff & Kepler... now those are some talented players...

 

I don't know that at age 20stats from a 1st overall pick you can determine an overall not good. He Ks about 1/6th of time thus far hit 14HRs in an age 19season. Has CF-SS-3b position flexibility to grow on to. Would seem to me to envision higher results. That kind of K pct should put him in the .285-.310 BA expectancy. Maybe higher? 14HR season at 19 isnt a wonder to dream 30 or more at ML level and games. Now as a SS or CF that is upper tier to reach that. And at least the production you want for a 3b. (Am seeing really just a SS thus far)

 

But I do agree much prefer Kirriloff simply for 1b-OF need fill+ closer to majors+higher slugging to date. I mention the pitcher as a return another top 100 prospect. Think youre getting more bang for your buck than that other proposal. (Would expect a 3rd player don't care beyond top 2)

 

Kepler is going nowhere. He's finally fulfilling the potential he presented as a prospect and the Twins have him at a comfortable contract during his prime ages. It'd probably take Hader plus Urias in order to acquire him.

[wibadgers23]

Phillies are also a good match. I think a deal for Hader starts with Alec Bohm and Mickey Moniak, and probably one of their high-level pitchers.

 

Yeah and I would think the Phillies are pretty desperate at this point to make it back into the postseason.

[pacopete4]

Phillies are also a good match. I think a deal for Hader starts with Alec Bohm and Mickey Moniak, and probably one of their high-level pitchers.

 

30. Alec Bohm, 3B/1B (ETA: 2020) - 35.6

34. Spencer Howard, RHP (2020) - 40.3

87. Bryson Stott, SS (2022) - 21.6

 

Here are their 3 top 100 prospects. While Hader comes in at 56.4 on the trade value site, I think it would take Bohm and one of the other two players plus a lower level lottery type for the Brewers to consider it. At least that’s where I hope they are with this.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Phillies are also a good match. I think a deal for Hader starts with Alec Bohm and Mickey Moniak, and probably one of their high-level pitchers.

 

30. Alec Bohm, 3B/1B (ETA: 2020) - 35.6

34. Spencer Howard, RHP (2020) - 40.3

87. Bryson Stott, SS (2022) - 21.6

 

Here are their 3 top 100 prospects. While Hader comes in at 56.4 on the trade value site, I think it would take Bohm and one of the other two players plus a lower level lottery type for the Brewers to consider it. At least that’s where I hope they are with this.

 

How about Bohm (35.6), Howard (40.3) and Moniak (2.5)? I'm not greedy LOL.

 

I've always liked Moniak as a toolsy CF who will eventually hit.

[wibadgers23]

I think we already knew this but Robert Murray is reporting today the Padres are among the teams to check in on Hader.

[brewers888]

If a blockbuster offer comes in I don't think we have a choice. I just hope that Stearns takes the right offer because we need to hit on a few everyday position prospects. If Hader does in fact get traded it will be a sad day for the franchise but unfortunately we have boxed ourselves in due to years of poor drafting and whiffing consistently in Latin America.

[brewers888]

We definitely need a big time prospect without any questions about his ability to hit. I'm still hoping for a bidding war that forces the Dodgers to include Lux.

[IntentionalHBP]

I’m hoping for Patino and Abrams/Campusano

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

I think we already knew this but Robert Murray is reporting today the Padres are among the teams to check in on Hader.

 

MacKenzie Gore has to headline that package, I would think.

[Manty Brewer Fan]

Sign me up for any deal that includes Abrams. He was a guy I pegged coming into the season would be a top 5 prospect in all of baseball by year end. Dude is a stud.

 

Abrams and Patino or Campusano and I am sold.

[pacopete4]

CJ Abrams screams Brewers. A light hitting shortstop. Perfect.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

CJ Abrams screams Brewers. A light hitting shortstop. Perfect.

 

I don't know if I'd call him light-hitting. Dude hit .401 at Rookie-level as an 18-year-old last year. I do not like that he's at least two years away, though.

[pacopete4]

CJ Abrams screams Brewers. A light hitting shortstop. Perfect.

 

I don't know if I'd call him light-hitting. Dude hit .401 at Rookie-level as an 18-year-old last year. I do not like that he's at least two years away, though.

 

I don’t know what stat lines originally pulled up for me but after looking back through, it looks much better.

[brewers888]

I don't think Royce Lewis is very good..... More hype then actual talent.. Proceed with caution.

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=lewis-002roy

 

Kirilloff & Kepler... now those are some talented players...

 

Royce Lewis better not be the headliner of any deal for Hader but unfortunately he fits the profile of athletic up the middle athletes that Stearns seems to always draft and acquire. We must get back a player that has a chance to be an outstanding hitter and I just don't see Lewis being that player.

[Warning Track Power]

I think we already knew this but Robert Murray is reporting today the Padres are among the teams to check in on Hader.

 

MacKenzie Gore has to headline that package, I would think.

Absolutely. No Gore. No deal (unless they throw a ludicrous offer of other prospects).

 

My preferred deal is Vaughn, Madrigal and Kopech deal from White Sox for Hader and whatever additional piece is needed to make it work. Vaughn becomes 1B of future, Madrigal 2B (with Hiura going to DH) and Kopech is a piece for the rotation.

[brewers888]

We flat out have to hit a home run if we move Hader. If we screw this deal up it will set this franchise back years.

[CheeseheadInQC]

Lewis would make me more nervous now than before the season because if the changes he made late in the season that helped him to the AFL MVP award have carried over to this year at their alternate site I'm guessing he is probably untouchable. I'm not as down on him as some here, because he was really young for level and had already shown pro success in A ball, but this awkward season would make me a bit leery.

 

If it's the Padres, I wonder if it would be something like Patino, Abrams, Carlos Guarate and Bodi Rascon. The Padres don't really have an ideal corner infield fit and given the Brewers' pitching talent skews closer to the big leagues, I'd rather take a shot with teenage pitchers as the secondary pieces than shoehorn a corner infielder in just to shoehorn a corner infielder in.

[brewtank34]

Put me in the camp for Kiriloff

[SDBrew fan]

Just completed a trade with a Padre fan friend of mine. Let me know what you all think.

Padres get Josh Hader and Brett Anderson, Brewers get CJ Abrams, Luis Campusano and Adrian Morejon. I had to through in Anderson to get Morejon. Well?

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Just completed a trade with a Padre fan friend of mine. Let me know what you all think.

Padres get Josh Hader and Brett Anderson, Brewers get CJ Abrams, Luis Campusano and Adrian Morejon. I had to through in Anderson to get Morejon. Well?

 

That is a nice package. A legit package. But I sorta think it's Gore or bust.

[Eye Black]

I wish I felt the Twins were more desperate to make a move like acquiring Hader, but Derek Falvey is cut from the same cloth as David Stearns. I don’t think we’ll see them overpay for Hader. If the Twins were willing to overpay, they have the players that would excite me the most.

 

The two teams I think could be desperate enough to overpay for Hader are the White Sox and Padres. Both are tasting success for the first time in awhile, and both have GMs that aren’t shy about giving up high end talent to get talent in return.

 

It’s been mentioned by others, but I think if the Brewers and White Sox do make a deal it seems like the Brewers would ask for a package that would be headlined by Andrew Vaughn and Michael Kopech. I think packaging them both (and maybe add a lottery ticket or two) is the exact type of price the Brewers are likely floating on Hader inquires.

 

Another thing to keep in mind, David Stearns and Rick Hahn have done a decent amount of business together pulling off in-season trades. The Brewers have acquired the following players from the White Sox in-season over the past three years:

 

Xavier Cedeno, Joakim Soria, Tyler Saladino, Anthony Swarzak

 

In addition, the Brewers were reportedly deep in talks to acquire Jose Quintana before the Cubs upped their offer three years ago.

 

 

Edit: I should add that I don’t think the Brewers are actually going to trade Hader, but do think the White Sox are one of the teams that could at least put forth an intriguing offer.

[BrewCrewBlueDevil]

Brewers get;

Andrew Vaughn 1B

Jonathon Stiever P

Dane Dunning P

One low level flyer

 

Brewers get:

Luis Patino

Taylor Trammell

Adrian Morejon

[brewers888]

I haven't seen any offers brought up so far that I would accept. If we aren't getting a sure thing in a deal and I haven't seen one yet in any of these potential deals I would just hold Hader and try to make improvements in other ways. Remember that Josh still has three years after this in a Brewers uniform so if we are going to move him now a star prospect like Lux better be included.

[PeaveyFury]

I haven't seen any offers brought up so far that I would accept. If we aren't getting a sure thing in a deal and I haven't seen one yet in any of these potential deals I would just hold Hader and try to make improvements in other ways. Remember that Josh still has three years after this in a Brewers uniform so if we are going to move him now a star prospect like Lux better be included.

 

It seems like you've decided that it's Lux or bust for Hader, which is possible but very limiting. As such, what would you propose a trade like that would look like? 1-for-1?