2019 Miscellaneous college football news

[CheezWizHed]

January start for Big10 football would be pretty brutal. Does anyone have an indoor stadium? Badgers at Miller Park?

[nate82]

January start for Big10 football would be pretty brutal. Does anyone have an indoor stadium? Badgers at Miller Park?

 

Probably would play all of the games in Indianapolis.

[CheezWizHed]

The Gophers could play at US Bank. The Vikings don't play any meaningful games there in January anyway...

[jerichoholicninja]

Anyone who thinks the COVID situation is going to drastically change for the better in the next few months is kidding themselves. Any sports (high school, college, pro) cancelled for fall are going to be cancelled in winter or spring for the same reason.

[tmwiese55]

I think it's feasible a lot could be better by the new year or early spring. Generally speaking I agree the area we've been hovering for a couple months now seems like it's gonna be that way for a while. But I do think the 3-4 hotspot states have had some declines (shocker, closing everything and wearing masks helped) the last few weeks, so there is hope there too. But yea in general a testing breakthrough has to happen so people can quickly and easily get tested almost daily for like a month to just flush it out. Or of course some kind of vaccine.

 

Guess that was a long way to say, I do think they should contingency plan for something, if it falls through so be it. 8 weeks with first game start of Feb with 1 bye and a conf title game gets done by early/mid April. Try to backload home games for the coldest states to the end, idk. I think someone mentioned in the recent tweets the JAn plan somehow involved playing indoors? Like maybe share all games between MN, Det, Indy somehow?

[Mr Southpaw]

Anyone who thinks the COVID situation is going to drastically change for the better in the next few months is kidding themselves. Any sports (high school, college, pro) cancelled for fall are going to be cancelled in winter or spring for the same reason.

 

[sarcasm]Keep thinking positive![/sarcasm]

[Mr Southpaw]

I think it's feasible a lot could be better by the new year or early spring. Generally speaking I agree the area we've been hovering for a couple months now seems like it's gonna be that way for a while. But I do think the 3-4 hotspot states have had some declines (shocker, closing everything and wearing masks helped) the last few weeks, so there is hope there too. But yea in general a testing breakthrough has to happen so people can quickly and easily get tested almost daily for like a month to just flush it out. Or of course some kind of vaccine.

 

Guess that was a long way to say, I do think they should contingency plan for something, if it falls through so be it. 8 weeks with first game start of Feb with 1 bye and a conf title game gets done by early/mid April. Try to backload home games for the coldest states to the end, idk. I think someone mentioned in the recent tweets the JAn plan somehow involved playing indoors? Like maybe share all games between MN, Det, Indy somehow?

 

US Bank..............66655.... Minneapolis

Americans Center..66000....St Louis

Ford Field............65000....Detroit

Lucas Stadium.....62421.....Indianapolis

Miller Park...........41900.....Milwaukee

UNI Dome...........16324.....Cedar Falls Iowa

Dakota Dome......10000......Vermillion SD

 

There are a lot of places to play, just not many toward the east coast.

[Samurai Bucky]

Anyone who thinks the COVID situation is going to drastically change for the better in the next few months is kidding themselves. Any sports (high school, college, pro) cancelled for fall are going to be cancelled in winter or spring for the same reason.

You need to put the political coefficient into the equation. Ahhhh... but that is for a different board

[HiAndTight]

Anyone who thinks the COVID situation is going to drastically change for the better in the next few months is kidding themselves. Any sports (high school, college, pro) cancelled for fall are going to be cancelled in winter or spring for the same reason.

 

 

I think anyone who thinks they can predict what's going to happen in another 6-9 months with ANY level of confidence is also kidding themselves.

 

You have the entire world working on making one vaccine at the moment.

[HiAndTight]

January start for Big10 football would be pretty brutal. Does anyone have an indoor stadium? Badgers at Miller Park?

 

 

Didn't he suggest playing in the "most Southern stadiums first?" Like the first two weeks would be in the most Southern Stadiums?

 

Beacuse it's a balmy 30 degrees in NeBraska? I mean...maybe Maryland is warmer(I'd assume). And I don't know if Lincoln is further South than say Columbus or Springfield, it just feels like it is and if it isn't...I'm sure the difference is negligible and it's not gonna be warm in those places either.

[jerichoholicninja]

Anyone who thinks the COVID situation is going to drastically change for the better in the next few months is kidding themselves. Any sports (high school, college, pro) cancelled for fall are going to be cancelled in winter or spring for the same reason.

You need to put the political coefficient into the equation. Ahhhh... but that is for a different board

 

You're right though. November will decide the COVID situation, whether by perception or reality. And I'll let everyone interpret that how they want. As for sports, the virus isn't just going to completely disappear in a couple months. Putting athletes in constant close physical contact with each other just isn't going to be happening anytime soon.

[LouisEly]

US Bank..............66655.... Minneapolis

Americans Center..66000....St Louis

Ford Field............65000....Detroit

Lucas Stadium.....62421.....Indianapolis

Miller Park...........41900.....Milwaukee

UNI Dome...........16324.....Cedar Falls Iowa

Dakota Dome......10000......Vermillion SD

 

There are a lot of places to play, just not many toward the east coast.

Good call... on the first four at least:

 

https://247sports.com/Article/Big-Ten-football-Winter-plan-spring-season-150511381/

 

Looks like multiple games per day per site. 14 teams, so seven games, two games per location per day with one game for one location. Biggest reason they think it's feasible is the implementation of the saliva test, so that all players could get tested the day of the game.

[CheezWizHed]

I really doubt they will be playing at Miller Park. They won't be playing on the grass (as it won't grow in winter). Putting down a temporary artificial turf makes me think they will have the Philadelphia Eagle's old field (hard, causing injuries, etc).

[jerichoholicninja]

A football field won't fit in Miller Park. That was big news when they built it.

[pacopete4]

A football field won't fit in Miller Park. That was big news when they built it.

 

I believe it can. It hosts soccer games and well there was this in 2009.

[LouisEly]

Not directly about football but likely the result of canceling fall football season, Iowa has cut men's gymnastics, men's and women's swimming and diving, and men's tennis after the 20-21 school year.

 

Those sports combined to produce $559k in revenue but accounted for $4.8m in expenses.

[JosephC]

Not directly about football but likely the result of canceling fall football season, Iowa has cut men's gymnastics, men's and women's swimming and diving, and men's tennis after the 20-21 school year.

 

Those sports combined to produce $559k in revenue but accounted for $4.8m in expenses.

 

Big deal. Who cares about non-essentials like this?

[pacopete4]

As a spots lover of all kinds it’s hard to see something produce $600k but lose $4.2 million. I can kind of see why people get upset about sports and the overall cost of it.

[homer]

As a spots lover of all kinds it’s hard to see something produce $600k but lose $4.2 million. I can kind of see why people get upset about sports and the overall cost of it.

 

I think the costs for the ancillary sports rose along with revenue for the big money sports. They had money to burn.

[owbc]

I'm fine with it, the scholarship sports model needs to go the way of the dinosaur. Better that the money goes to paying revenue-generating athletes than subsidizing predominately rich kids that could easily afford tuition.

[Mr Southpaw]

I'm fine with it, the scholarship sports model needs to go the way of the dinosaur. Better that the money goes to paying revenue-generating athletes than subsidizing predominately rich kids that could easily afford tuition.

 

Who says they are rich kids. And why is it that money should go to revenue producers. This is suppose to be college, not Wall Street......and I love Wall Street.

[owbc]

I'm fine with it, the scholarship sports model needs to go the way of the dinosaur. Better that the money goes to paying revenue-generating athletes than subsidizing predominately rich kids that could easily afford tuition.

 

Who says they are rich kids. And why is it that money should go to revenue producers. This is suppose to be college, not Wall Street......and I love Wall Street.

 

The whole college cheating scandal from 2019 is what first turned me onto this, but when you think about it, there aren't exactly a ton of kids from low-income backgrounds mastering sports like tennis or swimming well enough to earn a D1 scholarship.

 

Today, fewer than one in seven students receiving athletic scholarships across all Division I sports come from families in which neither parent went to college. Farrey calls this the slow-motion “gentrification” of college sports.

 

This process starts in youth and high-school sports. Both historically served as a pipeline to flagship universities for low-income kids. But when they’re shut out from pricey travel leagues and the expensive coaching that early specialists receive, lower-income kids are denied not only the physical benefits of playing sports, but also the jackpot that is college recruitment and Division I and II scholarships

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/08/meritocracy-killing-high-school-sports/597121/

[owbc]

A football field won't fit in Miller Park. That was big news when they built it.

 

I believe it can. It hosts soccer games and well there was this in 2009.

 

One thing to note is that the soccer pitch was not regulation size. Football can fit, however, because the field is narrower and can use more of the foul territory near the Brewers' dugout.

 

Miller Park cannot accommodate a World Cup-size pitch, which is between 110 and 120 yards long and between 70 and 80 yards wide. Boettcher said the field would be 109 yards long and 66 yards wide, which is approved by Major League Soccer as sufficient for a "friendly" or an exhibition match.

[homer]

football field is technically 120 yards long including the end zones. And you probably need another 10 - 20 yards at least on top of that. They didn't have the excess at Wrigley the one year Northwestern played there and each team had to go towards the same end zone.

[LouisEly]

The whole college cheating scandal from 2019 is what first turned me onto this, but when you think about it, there aren't exactly a ton of kids from low-income backgrounds mastering sports like tennis or swimming well enough to earn a D1 scholarship.

 

Today, fewer than one in seven students receiving athletic scholarships across all Division I sports come from families in which neither parent went to college. Farrey calls this the slow-motion “gentrification” of college sports.

 

This process starts in youth and high-school sports. Both historically served as a pipeline to flagship universities for low-income kids. But when they’re shut out from pricey travel leagues and the expensive coaching that early specialists receive, lower-income kids are denied not only the physical benefits of playing sports, but also the jackpot that is college recruitment and Division I and II scholarships

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/08/meritocracy-killing-high-school-sports/597121/

How do you reconcile that with Title IX? Pretty much the only profitable sports are football and men's basketball, on a good year maybe men's hockey. How do you explain 100% of scholarships going to men and none to women?