2019 NFL miscellaneous news

[CheezWizHed]

Michael Bennett has been suspended a game for getting into a "disagreement" with our old friend Bret Bielema.

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27853147/patriots-suspend-michael-bennett-detrimental-conduct

 

I didn't realize Brett ended up in the NFL... I suppose his college career really didn't end well and he wasn't going to get another HC shot (for a while at least).

[PeaveyFury]

Any rumors out there about WRs being available in a trade? It just seems obvious the Packers would be legit contenders to win it all with another legit real weapon for Mr. Rodgers.

 

Seems logical that Cincy would listen on AJ Green. Not sure about guys that know the Shanahan-based offense, though.

[reillymcshane]

Any rumors out there about WRs being available in a trade? It just seems obvious the Packers would be legit contenders to win it all with another legit real weapon for Mr. Rodgers.

 

Seems logical that Cincy would listen on AJ Green. Not sure about guys that know the Shanahan-based offense, though.

AJ Green will end up in New England. That's my guess.

[HiAndTight]

And what is "everything else that comes with having this guy?" What other problems has he had? As far as I can tell, he basically just said what everyone else had said about Cousins and it happened to be when Cousins got hot.

 

As for this perceived level of play and the "fantasy football," insult, well, that's just ridiculous and baseless.

 

https://www.pff.com/news/pro-washington-cut-ties-with-lb-zach-brown-making-him-one-of-the-best-lb-options-available

 

 

I don't know, you kinda drop it and make a snide comment and then never really back it up. I don't know who's talking about fantasy football here other than you. I'm talking about signing a cheap LB'er who was one of the best in the league last year to help strengthen our worst position.

 

If you want to play "armchair GM" you should probably take the time to familiarize yourself with the human beings you're wheeling and dealing for in "hypothetical-land". Brown has a well-known history. A 5 second google search would be of great assistance to you. And taking another 20-30 seconds would tell you how poor his play has been this year. There's literally no upside to this guy.

 

 

"Literally no upside," to signing guy who PFF graded out as a top 3 LB'er just last season. Really? None?

Zach Brown 2018 Grade 89.2

BJ Goodson 2018 Grade 66.5

You absolutely sure there's "literally" no upside? Or is that more, "I don't agree, so I'll exaggerate the point without offering any reason why," type of argument?

 

And it's so easy to find these endless examples, but you can't be bothered to give me any? I want to see your lengthy list of all the awful thing he's done that'd result in signing a guy who graded out higher than Blake last year in season a guy with "literally no upside."

 

This feels like another throw away line.

[HiAndTight]

Rams will have five straight years without a 1st round pick (2017 - 2021).

 

Not quite trading a probable high #1 for Minkah level stupid, but getting there. Rams legit trying to buy a Super Bowl by bringing in established high-priced talent. That team is eventually gonna hit salary cap hell.

 

 

Yeah, that really doesn't look any better a few weeks later, does it?

[HiAndTight]

Any rumors out there about WRs being available in a trade? It just seems obvious the Packers would be legit contenders to win it all with another legit real weapon for Mr. Rodgers.

 

 

I really don't think we're going to trade for a WR'er. It's just not an easy position to fit into your offense mid-season. The Packers obviously needed defensive help last year and that's where they spent most of their draft capital and FA money. They also needed a couple guys on offense, but you can't get everything done in one off-season.

 

I think the Packers have to wait for the draft before they add a WR'er of consequence. It's not just the complexity of the scheme, it's how long it takes for Rodgers to develop chemistry with his WR'ers.

 

 

To be honest though, despite the ball off Shepard's face-mask when he lost his footing, he's shifty and if he hasn't lost Rodgers trust, he looks like a guy who can get open. And of course when you get Adams back, the WR'ers as a whole slide down. And while he's only shown fleeting moments thus far, Tonyan definitely has the ability to make an impact.

 

So it's a weak spot, but there's not a team in the NFL without one and it's one I think we can compensate for provided we don't get hit with any more injuries.

[True Blue Brew Crew]

"Literally no upside," to signing guy who PFF graded out as a top 3 LB'er just last season. Really? None?

Zach Brown 2018 Grade 89.2

BJ Goodson 2018 Grade 66.5

You absolutely sure there's "literally" no upside? Or is that more, "I don't agree, so I'll exaggerate the point without offering any reason why," type of argument?

 

And it's so easy to find these endless examples, but you can't be bothered to give me any? I want to see your lengthy list of all the awful thing he's done that'd result in signing a guy who graded out higher than Blake last year in season a guy with "literally no upside."

 

This feels like another throw away line.

 

Hilarious that you cite PFF to boost your case but leave out his ranking THIS year.

 

FYI, he's ranked 60th out of 88 by PFF.

 

Philadelphia is extremely thin, if not desperate at LB and they released him going into a season-tilting matchup against their rival. That should tell you something.

[True Blue Brew Crew]

Emmanuel Sanders continues to make the most sense to me as a trade target. AJ Green is the big name but he hasn't been the AJ Green people think of for years now. Sanders is damn near the perfect slot receiver right now and has shown he's still got it on the field this year while we still have no idea if Green is even a shell of his former self. Adams and MVS would take care of the boundaries, and Sanders would give Rodgers the target he desperately needs between the hashes and on short, intermediate routes.

[MrTPlush]

Our WRs are so bad I think any veteran could come in here just fine while learning the offense. Antonio Brown went to New England and played the first week there and scored a touchdown. I am just not buying a veteran can't come in here and figure out our offense by the time the playoffs roll around. Probably wouldn't even take more than a month.

[bjkrautk]

For a low-key WR pickup...the Bengals have a Wisconsin kid returning kicks for them; wonder if Alex Erickson could be had for a 7th round pick?

 

I'm guessing Shepherd stays on the roster since the Packers won, but he has to be on thin ice at this point.

[HiAndTight]

"Literally no upside," to signing guy who PFF graded out as a top 3 LB'er just last season. Really? None?

Zach Brown 2018 Grade 89.2

BJ Goodson 2018 Grade 66.5

You absolutely sure there's "literally" no upside? Or is that more, "I don't agree, so I'll exaggerate the point without offering any reason why," type of argument?

 

And it's so easy to find these endless examples, but you can't be bothered to give me any? I want to see your lengthy list of all the awful thing he's done that'd result in signing a guy who graded out higher than Blake last year in season a guy with "literally no upside."

 

This feels like another throw away line.

 

Hilarious that you cite PFF to boost your case but leave out his ranking THIS year.

 

FYI, he's ranked 60th out of 88 by PFF.

 

Philadelphia is extremely thin, if not desperate at LB and they released him going into a season-tilting matchup against their rival. That should tell you something.

 

Yeah, it's hilarious. Ignore the guys entire body of work, his Pro-Bowl appearances and instead focus on 1/3rd of one season and then say there's "literally," no upside.

 

Still waiting for that LENGTHY list of disqualifying offenses that Brown has committed during his career as well. You keep seeming to just ignore that. I guess it's easier to just keep saying you're right.

 

But yeah, lets use the small sample sizes. Anyone prefer Chandon Sullivan to Jaire Alexander?

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

"Literally no upside," to signing guy who PFF graded out as a top 3 LB'er just last season. Really? None?

Zach Brown 2018 Grade 89.2

BJ Goodson 2018 Grade 66.5

You absolutely sure there's "literally" no upside? Or is that more, "I don't agree, so I'll exaggerate the point without offering any reason why," type of argument?

 

And it's so easy to find these endless examples, but you can't be bothered to give me any? I want to see your lengthy list of all the awful thing he's done that'd result in signing a guy who graded out higher than Blake last year in season a guy with "literally no upside."

 

This feels like another throw away line.

 

Hilarious that you cite PFF to boost your case but leave out his ranking THIS year.

 

FYI, he's ranked 60th out of 88 by PFF.

 

Philadelphia is extremely thin, if not desperate at LB and they released him going into a season-tilting matchup against their rival. That should tell you something.

 

His PFF ranking this year is a really small sample for a guy who's been solid his whole career. And who knows Philly's reasoning for cutting him. We are not privy to that info. Perhaps he just wasn't a fit for the defense they run. Doesn't mean he's done.

[HiAndTight]

 

His PFF ranking this year is a really small sample for a guy who's been solid his whole career. And who knows Philly's reasoning for cutting him. We are not privy to that info. Perhaps he just wasn't a fit for the defense they run. Doesn't mean he's done.

 

 

That and there's almost no cost to it. He plays one of the most replaceable positions in the game. He's been a good LB'er and he'd more likely be cheap to pick up. Also...BJ Goodson.

[homer]

"Literally no upside," to signing guy who PFF graded out as a top 3 LB'er just last season. Really? None?

Zach Brown 2018 Grade 89.2

BJ Goodson 2018 Grade 66.5

You absolutely sure there's "literally" no upside? Or is that more, "I don't agree, so I'll exaggerate the point without offering any reason why," type of argument?

 

And it's so easy to find these endless examples, but you can't be bothered to give me any? I want to see your lengthy list of all the awful thing he's done that'd result in signing a guy who graded out higher than Blake last year in season a guy with "literally no upside."

 

This feels like another throw away line.

 

Hilarious that you cite PFF to boost your case but leave out his ranking THIS year.

 

FYI, he's ranked 60th out of 88 by PFF.

 

Philadelphia is extremely thin, if not desperate at LB and they released him going into a season-tilting matchup against their rival. That should tell you something.

 

Yeah, it's hilarious. Ignore the guys entire body of work, his Pro-Bowl appearances and instead focus on 1/3rd of one season and then say there's "literally," no upside.

 

Still waiting for that LENGTHY list of disqualifying offenses that Brown has committed during his career as well. You keep seeming to just ignore that. I guess it's easier to just keep saying you're right.

 

But yeah, lets use the small sample sizes. Anyone prefer Chandon Sullivan to Jaire Alexander?

 

 

Guys, be civil or post elsewhere.

[HiAndTight]

Rams will have five straight years without a 1st round pick (2017 - 2021).

 

Not quite trading a probable high #1 for Minkah level stupid, but getting there. Rams legit trying to buy a Super Bowl by bringing in established high-priced talent. That team is eventually gonna hit salary cap hell.

 

 

You really think this was stupid? Ramsey could be a more athletic/better man corner than Richard Sherman over the next 5-6 years. I don't think he's like all these corners...Norman, Bouye....I don't know, just keep going. Nnamdi, Revis, all these guys who were the best for a year or two or three. I think he's one of those true transformation type players. When those guys come along and you're trying to win a SB, I can't ever look at a legitimate contender and say that's a stupid move.

 

And even the rest of those moves, they traded 1sts to get Geoff and Cooks and then last year they traded down from 31 to get the 45th and 79th picks...really good value for them.

 

So I think the "Mortgaging the future for the present," deal is a little overplayed. All of those moves are justified. Sure, they need help on the OL, but it's kinda hard to argue with any of those. A QB who took you to a SB last year and helped you go..what 15-4 with a 1st round bye.

 

I don't think Ramsey's as valuable as Mack, but he's a similar caliber player at a slightly less valuable position. Are you gonna be able to get better value picking ~20th this year and then probably late 1st again next year?

 

As for the Cap Hell, there are so many ways around that. I don't like when teams do that with young QB's as you want to build a team like Thompson WAS on his way to building in GB, one that was competitive every year(especially before Collins, Finley had career ending injuries and BJ walked) but your cap was always under control....but you're in the LA market and they think they're good enough to win it now.

 

 

The Rams and Packers were in similar situations here. The Packers weren't willing to do so, presumably because they know they need to get Rodgers some help. Specifically at Tackle(Bulaga is a FA and playing at a level that's gonna see teams willing to pay him 15 million for multiple years right now) and WR'er. The Rams have offensive issues, but...still, I'll take my chances and count on the Front Office to get those 2nd, 3rd's they've got right and to massage these cap figures. It costs a lot of cash and usually long deals, but you can almost always get around it year to year.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Rams will have five straight years without a 1st round pick (2017 - 2021).

 

Not quite trading a probable high #1 for Minkah level stupid, but getting there. Rams legit trying to buy a Super Bowl by bringing in established high-priced talent. That team is eventually gonna hit salary cap hell.

 

 

You really think this was stupid? Ramsey could be a more athletic/better man corner than Richard Sherman over the next 5-6 years. I don't think he's like all these corners...Norman, Bouye....I don't know, just keep going. Nnamdi, Revis, all these guys who were the best for a year or two or three. I think he's one of those true transformation type players. When those guys come along and you're trying to win a SB, I can't ever look at a legitimate contender and say that's a stupid move.

 

And even the rest of those moves, they traded 1sts to get Geoff and Cooks and then last year they traded down from 31 to get the 45th and 79th picks...really good value for them.

 

So I think the "Mortgaging the future for the present," deal is a little overplayed. All of those moves are justified. Sure, they need help on the OL, but it's kinda hard to argue with any of those. A QB who took you to a SB last year and helped you go..what 15-4 with a 1st round bye.

 

I don't think Ramsey's as valuable as Mack, but he's a similar caliber player at a slightly less valuable position. Are you gonna be able to get better value picking ~20th this year and then probably late 1st again next year?

 

As for the Cap Hell, there are so many ways around that. I don't like when teams do that with young QB's as you want to build a team like Thompson WAS on his way to building in GB, one that was competitive every year(especially before Collins, Finley had career ending injuries and BJ walked) but your cap was always under control....but you're in the LA market and they think they're good enough to win it now.

 

 

The Rams and Packers were in similar situations here. The Packers weren't willing to do so, presumably because they know they need to get Rodgers some help. Specifically at Tackle(Bulaga is a FA and playing at a level that's gonna see teams willing to pay him 15 million for multiple years right now) and WR'er. The Rams have offensive issues, but...still, I'll take my chances and count on the Front Office to get those 2nd, 3rd's they've got right and to massage these cap figures. It costs a lot of cash and usually long deals, but you can almost always get around it year to year.

 

I personally think it's a dumb move because the Rams gave up a king's ransom for a player that is very good, but in my opinion is only going to improve them incrementally. So far the Rams look pretty drastically inferior to the team they put on the field last year. They have major offensive line issues, and aren't going to go anywhere until those are shored up. Over the last few years, the Rams have tried to build by throwing money at "name" guys, then their fanbase acts surprised and incredulous when those guys end up hurt and miss multiple games every year. They are building the same way that the Redskins of the early 2000s tried, when they brought in over-the-hill former stars like Bruce Smith and Deion Sanders, and it blew up in their face.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

I'd say it's stupid. These kinds of things almost never end up working out. I want Khalil Mack for two first round picks. However, Jalen Ramsey doesn't really fit geezer versions of Deion Sanders. He's a great player, but I don't think he's even the clear-cut best corner in the game or a generational talent like Mack.

 

I think before this trade happened, if you made a thread postulating what it would take to get Ramsey you would get a lot of people saying a 2nd and a 5th or something. They paid a massive price for a .500 team headed to salary cap hell. If anything it smacked of desperation to me and very short-sighted.

[homer]

If all they needed was help on defense I might agree, but the O Line has been really bad this year.

[nodakfan17]

I think the Rams are just trying to sell PSL’s for their new stadium.

[wildcat83]

Knee injury to Mahomes sure changes the game next Sunday.

[jerichoholicninja]

This TNF game is destroying my fantasy team this week and Joe Flacco sucks.

[nodakfan17]

I dislocated my knee as a senior in high school and then another 3 times within 18 months of the original injury. I’ve never been the same and eventually had to give up my active life style because I wanted to save whatever was left in that joint for things like mowing my lawn and taking my kids to the park. Now Mahomes has a super human body and access to world class medical care, so I’m sure his prognosis will be much better, but this is serious stuff. Poor guy.

[pacopete4]

Bummed that he got hurt. Not good for the game to lose a star like that and I wanted to see he and Rodgers square off. You only get so many of those matchups. I think back to when Favre and Manning duked it out in Indy.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

NFC East is a strange division.

[MrTPlush]

The primetime games have been....not very prime.

 

Huge games next week though:

 

Rodgers vs. Maho...Moore

 

Dolphins and their quest for perfec...imperfection.