2019 NFL miscellaneous news

[homer]

Baltimore's offense seems to have caught up to its defense. The last four weeks they've beaten Seattle on the road (by two scores), New England, and then Cincy and Houston by a combined score of 90 - 20.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

My lack of great fear in the Pats stems from the fact that Brady is not really all that good. This is all masked by the fact the team is still winning games, but I don't even think he's a top 10 QB anymore. Smack him around in January and he is going to feel 42. His arm is not really impressive anymore at all. They have the best coach in the history of the sport, but they're more beatable now than they have been at previous times in the dynasty. I'm not saying they're bad, but I don't feel this version of them is significantly better than other contending teams.

[pacopete4]

My lack of great fear in the Pats stems from the fact that Brady is not really all that good. This is all masked by the fact the team is still winning games, but I don't even think he's a top 10 QB anymore. Smack him around in January and he is going to feel 42. His arm is not really impressive anymore at all. They have the best coach in the history of the sport, but they're more beatable now than they have been at previous times in the dynasty. I'm not saying they're bad, but I don't feel this version of them is significantly better than other contending teams.

 

I said this to friends yesterday. If NE had a good QB, they would roll people more than they do already. Brady is actually holding that team back. That's not a dig on him, he's just up there in age and it is showing.

[MrTPlush]

Tom Brady really hasn't been that good for years. They just use him perfectly and know how to maximize him with what they have these days. He has notably declined the last 3 years or so. He really isn't a difference maker at this point and if you look at how he has faired against decent teams I would be incredibly concerned if I was a Patriots fan. Not counting their first two games (Steelers/Dolphins) he has been really unimpressive. I wonder how much cold weather and/or just getting beat up over the course of the season is affecting him...if at all. If you look at him he hasn't just been not good in recent games, he has been bad.

 

I think there is a really good chance that team doesn't make the AFC Championship game.

[adambr2]

I guess my respect for Belichick (professionally, not necessarily personally) is so great that I figure he probably knows exactly what Brady's limitations are and can tailor the offense in the playoffs perfectly to fit what Brady still can do.

 

Nothing the Patriots do would shock me. They could let Brady walk next year, trade nothing for Mitchell Trubisky and turn him into a Super Bowl winning quarterback and it would not surprise me.

 

Don't get me wrong, they could still lose to Baltimore. They're really good and Jackson is the real deal. But I can't really take anyone in the AFC seriously besides those two teams. Maybe Kansas City could get rolling again, they've really taken a step back the last month.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

They may get there because the AFC is really bad. Outside of Baltimore their other bad matchup is a potential shoot out with KC where Brady is forced to match Mahomes which he won't be able to do. But their defense might keep that from happening. Outside of that who is beating them? I'll pass on Buffalo, so it's Oakland or the Colts?

 

I don't think they'd have a prayer getting out of the NFC.

[homer]

Patriots defense this year is really good. I don't know if its the best one they've had under Belichick but it very well could be.

[brewcrewdue80]

Broncos suck. They'll blow it. They're well on their way with McManus pissing away the field goal.

 

Wonder how the game would have played out. If he had made that FG, hes kicking that FG on 4th&6 with over 1min left.

 

Oh, hmm Noah Fant was the go to 3straight endzone attempts there. So glad we drafted Gary. Dalton Risner playing at 1st rd level. Is there going to be any worse 1st rd draft pick?

 

Isn’t 10 games into his career a little early to essentially call Gary a bust?

 

Considering the 1st Rd busts on defense the Packers have been drafting and trading away of late. 10games is just about 1/3 of the games his Packer Life has. He's not showing any impact that garners more snaps for the rest of this season. If 3seasons is his lifespan here, 1/3 of it is a clear bust. Worse than the recent 1st rd def busts because higher draft pick.

[KeithStone53151]

Patriots defense this year is really good. I don't know if its the best one they've had under Belichick but it very well could be.

 

I actually disagree heavily with this. Look at the teams they've faced. Name one besides the Ravens that has a remotely scary offense? 6 of their opponents(7 games, jets twice) are in the bottom 10 teams in yards/game...the 2 others besides Baltimore are 11th and 13th from the bottom. Looking at their schedule, I literally couldn't have devised an easier schedule up until the last 2 weeks. It was cupcake after cupcake. To their credit, they still did destroy those cupcake teams for the most part...but nothing about their team is elite, not even the defense. I was telling a buddy before the Baltimore game...every one of their next 5 opponents are basically tossups. Could go either way, and the Patriots are not definitively better than any of them.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Considering the 1st Rd busts on defense the Packers have been drafting and trading away of late. 10games is just about 1/3 of the games his Packer Life has. He's not showing any impact that garners more snaps for the rest of this season. If 3seasons is his lifespan here, 1/3 of it is a clear bust. Worse than the recent 1st rd def busts because higher draft pick.

 

 

Umm, what? This whole explanation makes utterly no sense.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

He's just saying that a lot of our busts end up playing about that many games. People are always hesitant to admit when top picks suck and do tend do exaggerate their bright moments. He was a reach pick a lot of people didn't like and to this point, he's done just about nothing. Those guys get time, and he is young, but you'd like to see at least some hint that there's something there.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

He's just saying that a lot of our busts end up playing about that many games. People are always hesitant to admit when top picks suck and do tend do exaggerate their bright moments. He was a reach pick a lot of people didn't like and to this point, he's done just about nothing. Those guys get time, and he is young, but you'd like to see at least some hint that there's something there.

 

I totally get that. I had hoped that he would have made more of an impact by now as well. I just think that declaring the guy a bust 10 games into his career is hilariously short-sighted at best, and downright ludicrous at worst. As I mentioned earlier, the Packers have gotten very lucky so far when it comes to health at that position, with the Smiths and Fackrell staying healthy for the most part. But if any of those guys goes down for any length of time, I would expect that Gary would play a huge role at an extremely important position. Again, you can never have enough guys who can rush the passer.

[homer]

Patriots defense this year is really good. I don't know if its the best one they've had under Belichick but it very well could be.

 

I actually disagree heavily with this. Look at the teams they've faced. Name one besides the Ravens that has a remotely scary offense? 6 of their opponents(7 games, jets twice) are in the bottom 10 teams in yards/game...the 2 others besides Baltimore are 11th and 13th from the bottom. Looking at their schedule, I literally couldn't have devised an easier schedule up until the last 2 weeks. It was cupcake after cupcake. To their credit, they still did destroy those cupcake teams for the most part...but nothing about their team is elite, not even the defense. I was telling a buddy before the Baltimore game...every one of their next 5 opponents are basically tossups. Could go either way, and the Patriots are not definitively better than any of them.

 

They've given up more than 14 points exactly once this year. I don't care what your schedule is that's really really good. Yeah that would be different if they played a tougher schedule but it's not like they'd be giving up 30 points a game if they played the same schedule the packers did.

 

They could certainly "not elite" themselves to a 15 - 1 record and home field for the duration of the playoffs.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

He's just saying that a lot of our busts end up playing about that many games. People are always hesitant to admit when top picks suck and do tend do exaggerate their bright moments. He was a reach pick a lot of people didn't like and to this point, he's done just about nothing. Those guys get time, and he is young, but you'd like to see at least some hint that there's something there.

 

I totally get that. I had hoped that he would have made more of an impact by now as well. I just think that declaring the guy a bust 10 games into his career is hilariously short-sighted at best, and downright ludicrous at worst. As I mentioned earlier, the Packers have gotten very lucky so far when it comes to health at that position, with the Smiths and Fackrell staying healthy for the most part. But if any of those guys goes down for any length of time, I would expect that Gary would play a huge role at an extremely important position. Again, you can never have enough guys who can rush the passer.

 

I don't really have an opinion of him yet. It's not really common to have rookies be very productive at that position. He is a drafted edge rusher and that hasn't been an issue for their defense. There are limited snaps for him at this point. I think it is a combination of not thinking he's ready and not really needing him. He was drafted with everyone knowing he was raw, sparse PT may not be the worst thing for him in year one.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

He's just saying that a lot of our busts end up playing about that many games. People are always hesitant to admit when top picks suck and do tend do exaggerate their bright moments. He was a reach pick a lot of people didn't like and to this point, he's done just about nothing. Those guys get time, and he is young, but you'd like to see at least some hint that there's something there.

 

I totally get that. I had hoped that he would have made more of an impact by now as well. I just think that declaring the guy a bust 10 games into his career is hilariously short-sighted at best, and downright ludicrous at worst. As I mentioned earlier, the Packers have gotten very lucky so far when it comes to health at that position, with the Smiths and Fackrell staying healthy for the most part. But if any of those guys goes down for any length of time, I would expect that Gary would play a huge role at an extremely important position. Again, you can never have enough guys who can rush the passer.

 

I don't really have an opinion of him yet. It's not really common to have rookies be very productive at that position. He is a drafted edge rusher and that hasn't been an issue for their defense. There are limited snaps for him at this point. I think it is a combination of not thinking he's ready and not really needing him. He was drafted with everyone knowing he was raw, sparse PT may not be the worst thing for him in year one.

 

That's basically my view as well. There just hasn't been enough to make any sort of determination yet. Is that Gary's fault? perhaps ... as if he was showing game-changing ability, you'd think they'd be finding a way to get him on the field. But he's got two high-priced free agents who are playing at at All Pro level ahead of him, along with a guy in Fackrell who, while no world beater, is probably good enough to start as an edge rusher for the majority of teams in the league. I would expect that we'll start seeing Gary's playing time increase over the next month as a mechanism to help keep those guys ahead of him on the depth chart fresher.

[KeithStone53151]

They've given up more than 14 points exactly once this year. I don't care what your schedule is that's really really good. Yeah that would be different if they played a tougher schedule but it's not like they'd be giving up 30 points a game if they played the same schedule the packers did.

 

They could certainly "not elite" themselves to a 15 - 1 record and home field for the duration of the playoffs.

 

Yeah we're not going to agree, and that's fine. Maybe they aren't giving up 30 a game, but probably at least 20 to most of the teams we faced(which is roughly what the packers did as well)...and they'd probably be worse than 8-2 unless they got the same extremely generous calls that we got.

[PeaveyFury]

 

Considering the 1st Rd busts on defense the Packers have been drafting and trading away of late.

 

How many of those have happened under this GM?

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

 

Considering the 1st Rd busts on defense the Packers have been drafting and trading away of late.

 

How many of those have happened under this GM?

 

Well, he did trade Ha-Ha ... but didn't draft him.

[MrTPlush]

People wonder how the Chargers never do anything with Rivers.

 

Probably cause he sucks.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

People wonder how the Chargers never do anything with Rivers.

 

Probably cause he sucks.

 

I swear, every time he throws the ball, it appears as though he's throwing a 10-pound medicine ball. I don't know if it's his follow-though or something else, but his throws have always looked "off" to me.

[MrTPlush]

People wonder how the Chargers never do anything with Rivers.

 

Probably cause he sucks.

 

I swear, every time he throws the ball, it appears as though he's throwing a 10-pound medicine ball. I don't know if it's his follow-though or something else, but his throws have always looked "off" to me.

 

61 losses by 7 or less in his career. To me, a lot of that falls on the QB. He simply is not a difference maker and often times makes poor mistakes when it matters. Yah, he may not have the best supporting cast overall in his career...but man, he can’t lead them to anything.

 

The Chargers are a mess though. I am nearly positive they had three plays in a row they fumbled the ball.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

There are a lot of parallels between Rivers and Stafford.

[KeithStone53151]

Rivers throws too many wobblers at this point in his career. He does still make a lot of good throws, but I'm not sure he can throw a good deep ball more than 50% of the time. And the other 50% are wobblers that fall 10 yards short of his target and get intercepted most of the time. He's basically a less effective and slower version of Chad Pennington at this point in his career.

[adambr2]

Bill O'Brien sucks. He has to be the blandest, least imaginative mind in football. He has a ridiculous amount of talent on that Texan offense and manages to be incredibly vanilla and predictable.

[nodakfan17]

Bill O'Brien sucks. He has to be the blandest, least imaginative mind in football. He has a ridiculous amount of talent on that Texan offense and manages to be incredibly vanilla and predictable.

AFC South football in general is just Meh.