2019 NFL miscellaneous news

[Fear The Chorizo]

Vikes down 17-0 to Broncos, this would be a big blow to their division hopes.

 

Looking like denver realized that they stink at halftime and shouldn't have been up 20-0...

[adambr2]

Broncos suck. They'll blow it. They're well on their way with McManus pissing away the field goal.

[young guns]

Now they'll wish they hadn't challenged because you kind of have to throw here on 4th and 1.

[adambr2]

Broncos are a joke. Fangio sucks as a HC.

[young guns]

Oh well. I guess it's too much to ask a bad team to win in Minnesota. [sarcasm]Though Minnesota managed to do it.[/sarcasm]

[DuWayne Steurer]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/broncos-vic-fangio-struggling-to-connect-with-players-and-coaches-in-first-season-in-denver/

 

All I have to say is "DUH!" when you hire a fossil, you have to expect a communication disconnect.

 

This post is basically saying "61 year old guys dont know how to talk to people."

 

I think that this is a vic fangio problem. Not an old guy problem.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/broncos-vic-fangio-struggling-to-connect-with-players-and-coaches-in-first-season-in-denver/

 

All I have to say is "DUH!" when you hire a fossil, you have to expect a communication disconnect.

 

This post is basically saying "61 year old guys dont know how to talk to people."

 

I think that this is a vic fangio problem. Not an old guy problem.

 

He's never been known as a great communicator. It was a choice that was sort of doomed to fail from the beginning.

[DuWayne Steurer]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/broncos-vic-fangio-struggling-to-connect-with-players-and-coaches-in-first-season-in-denver/

 

All I have to say is "DUH!" when you hire a fossil, you have to expect a communication disconnect.

 

This post is basically saying "61 year old guys dont know how to talk to people."

 

I think that this is a vic fangio problem. Not an old guy problem.

 

He's never been known as a great communicator. It was a choice that was sort of doomed to fail from the beginning.

 

That doesnt mean all 61 year olds are bad communicators... That means vic fangio is.

[brewcrewdue80]

Broncos suck. They'll blow it. They're well on their way with McManus pissing away the field goal.

 

Wonder how the game would have played out. If he had made that FG, hes kicking that FG on 4th&6 with over 1min left.

 

Oh, hmm Noah Fant was the go to 3straight endzone attempts there. So glad we drafted Gary. Dalton Risner playing at 1st rd level. Is there going to be any worse 1st rd draft pick?

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

 

That doesnt mean all 61 year olds are bad communicators... That means vic fangio is.

 

Agreed. My use of the term "fossil" is a little deeper than just saying he's old. He's also about as "old school" as you are going to get as a coach. A Buddy Ryan type.

[adambr2]

I think he's one of those guys who will always fall into the category of "great coordinator, terrible coach."

[DuWayne Steurer]

 

That doesnt mean all 61 year olds are bad communicators... That means vic fangio is.

 

Agreed. My use of the term "fossil" is a little deeper than just saying he's old. He's also about as "old school" as you are going to get as a coach. A Buddy Ryan type.

 

Very fair.

[young guns]

If this interception isnt overturned for the Pat's the fix is definitely in.

 

And rightfully overturned. Hey the refs get one right!

[MrTPlush]

Carson Wentz just blew that game against the Patriots so hard. Talk about missing a receiver wide open or not being able to hit the broad side of a barn...yet somehow almost got down the field to tie it.

[homer]

I'd love to see NE lose one more game so they have to play Baltimore on the road in the playoffs.

[areacodes]

Broncos suck. They'll blow it. They're well on their way with McManus pissing away the field goal.

 

Wonder how the game would have played out. If he had made that FG, hes kicking that FG on 4th&6 with over 1min left.

 

Oh, hmm Noah Fant was the go to 3straight endzone attempts there. So glad we drafted Gary. Dalton Risner playing at 1st rd level. Is there going to be any worse 1st rd draft pick?

 

Isn’t 10 games into his career a little early to essentially call Gary a bust?

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Broncos suck. They'll blow it. They're well on their way with McManus pissing away the field goal.

 

Wonder how the game would have played out. If he had made that FG, hes kicking that FG on 4th&6 with over 1min left.

 

Oh, hmm Noah Fant was the go to 3straight endzone attempts there. So glad we drafted Gary. Dalton Risner playing at 1st rd level. Is there going to be any worse 1st rd draft pick?

 

Isn’t 10 games into his career a little early to essentially call Gary a bust?

 

Yes. Yes it is. Not directly calling that a terrible take, but yeah ...

[adambr2]

While I'm not personally calling Gary a bust at all, the pick does look like a bit of a head scratcher just based on team direction. There's a lot of other guys they could have taken that would be a lot more impactful to the current team. That's not a big deal if you're the Miami Dolphins, but when you're 8-2 and trying to get back to the Super Bowl, we could have used some immediate impact at #12.

 

They had already made big investments in free agency into edge rushers, so you knew even when you drafted Gary that there wasn't going to be much of an immediate impact. I don't know, the only way I think you go that route when you're trying to contend is if you think the guy you're taking is a can't-miss talent who is going to take big 2nd and 3rd year leaps and become a perennial Pro Bowl type player.

 

I'm not sure Gary is that guy, but I guess time will tell.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

While I'm not personally calling Gary a bust at all, the pick does look like a bit of a head scratcher just based on team direction. There's a lot of other guys they could have taken that would be a lot more impactful to the current team. That's not a big deal if you're the Miami Dolphins, but when you're 8-2 and trying to get back to the Super Bowl, we could have used some immediate impact at #12.

 

They had already made big investments in free agency into edge rushers, so you knew even when you drafted Gary that there wasn't going to be much of an immediate impact. I don't know, the only way I think you go that route when you're trying to contend is if you think the guy you're taking is a can't-miss talent who is going to take big 2nd and 3rd year leaps and become a perennial Pro Bowl type player.

 

I'm not sure Gary is that guy, but I guess time will tell.

 

It doesn't matter one iota whether we as fans think Gary is that guy or not. But I think it's a pretty safe assumption that the Packers front office feels he's that type of guy.

 

It's important to note that edge rusher has become arguably the most important and impactful position on the defense, and it's also a spot where you see a lot of injuries, due to the fact that you have high-end athletes ramming into 325-lb offensive tackles repeatedly. The Packers have had a golden horseshoe so far when it comes to health at that position, as the Smiths and Fackrell have stayed healthy for the most part. But if any of those guys goes down for any length of time, Gary would be playing a huge role. You can never have enough guys who can rush the passer.

[adambr2]

I do agree that pass rush is king on defense. It sucks that we can't stop the run this year, but there's weirdly very little correlation between winning and being able to stop the run. Like, none. I always found that odd. But if you're going to have a weakness that's what you want it to be.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

The 49ers look much more vulnerable than they did 2 weeks ago and I like the Packers to win. As the season moves on I'm reconciling my belief that the Packers aren't an elite team with the reality that there is no dominant team. The Smiths just might be enough to get a pass rush in the playoffs and sometimes that's all you need with a little luck elsewhere. I woke up yesterday starting to think Minnesota was the best team in the NFC but you can't call them dominant either.

 

I would say New Orleans if forced to pick one but I don't see any real separation between the top 5 in the NFC. The AFC isn't any better.

[homer]

Baltimore is starting to look pretty darn dominant.

[adambr2]

Yeah, Baltimore and New England is starting to look like a fantastic showdown in the AFC and I'm glad we don't have to deal with either of those teams until a hypothetical Super Bowl.

 

Agreed with most of what OldSchool says --.the good news is that the Packers have as good of a shot as any team in the NFC. The bad news is that there are probably 4 other teams in the NFC with as good of a shot as the Packers.

 

Getting a first round bye is so important this year. The 3 and 4 seeds will be very vulnerable in the WC round in the NFC. There's going to be a couple of legitimate contenders that won't even make it out of the WC round, and we need to make sure we're not one of them.

 

Fortunately, we've got an inside track to do so, but we can't afford any more games like the Charger game where we simply don't show up. 4-2 gets us to 12-4. Of those 4 wins we either need that one at Minnesota or the other two vs Chicago and Detroit, that wins the tiebreaker and gets us the division and bye. Very attainable, but we'll have to earn it.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

I don't think New England is all that great. They're New England and 9-1 is 9-1, but they really have played next to nobody and it's just not the traditionally superior team it usually is. They could clearly win the Super Bowl again but I don't really find them more threatening than New Orleans or Baltimore or a road game in Seattle.

 

The Ravens would be my pick for the AFC today, but that's still a 2-loss team went to OT with Pittsburgh and squeaked by Cincinnati...it's a vulnerable team. Yeah they beat the crap out of Houston and Cincy #2. I'm just not seeing a team I'd feel safe betting on in either league, as opposed to other seasons when you almost knew who was coming out of at least one conference halfway through the year.

 

But yeah, if you made me pick the best in each league I'd go Balt and New Orleans.

[adambr2]

To me, the Patriots are always scary. Schedule, superior looking in November or not, it just doesn't matter. For all I know Bellichick fully was fully willing to take a loss to the Ravens in exchange for showing them only 5% of his hand and they'll see the other 95% in January.

 

I have little doubt that he does hold back as much as he can during the regular season knowing full well they'll go 13-3 anyway.