2019-08-28: Cardinals (Flaherty) at Brewers (Lyles) [Brewers win, 4-1]

[KeithStone53151]

Immaculate inning for Junior?

 

Well that's definitely worth a 3 year extension...

[KeithStone53151]

Are they planning to use Hader for 2 innings? I don't really like that to be honest. I'd rather him focus on getting through 1 clean.

[Brew crew 92]

It’s great seeing junior pitch like this. Splitter is nasty. If he can pitch close to this moving forward, this would be huge.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

I’d prefer 2 years, if he fails as a starter, he can pitch out of the pen. I don’t care what he did before he came to MKE last year, as much as what he’s done while pitching for the brewers. With the crew he’s been great. What’s the risk factor here?

 

The risk factor is that he's Jordan Lyles.

 

Didn’t you just say if starting didn’t work out, he’s good out of the pen?

 

Seems like your sorta talking out of both side of the mouth, you know, based on, your previous posts.

 

Here once again you are 100% wrong. I am an advocate for bringing him back next year, as he's got a good arm and the potential benefit is worth the risk in my opinion. There's still an obvious risk, though.

 

That is a FAR FAR cry from handing him a 3-year contract.

[Brew crew 92]

Are they planning to use Hader for 2 innings? I don't really like that to be honest. I'd rather him focus on getting through 1 clean.

 

Agree.

Get Pomeranz to warm up, just in case he doesn’t have it.

[KeithStone53151]

Are they planning to use Hader for 2 innings? I don't really like that to be honest. I'd rather him focus on getting through 1 clean.

 

Agree.

Get Pomeranz to warm up, just in case he doesn’t have it.

 

I'd be more inclined to have Jackson warm, Cardinals are very RH heavy. But either way yeah, we should be ready in case it looks bad early.

[Brew crew 92]

Stop with the 3 year contract. I already said numerous times I’d prefer a 2 year deal.

[pacopete4]

But why give multi-year deals to these guys? It doesn't make sense. You are paying two years for a guy that hasn't proven he can pitch one. Unless it is a team option only, it doesn't make any sense.

[KeithStone53151]

I think he's gotta throw offspeed to Ozuna. I remember him having success against Hader. He really sells out on the high fastball...

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Lyles is the definition of a pitcher who you basically pay year-to-year.

[Brew crew 92]

But why give multi-year deals to these guys? It doesn't make sense. You are paying two years for a guy that hasn't proven he can pitch one.

 

Because if we’re right we get 2 good years from Lyles instead of 1. If he has the kind of year his stuff/command warrants, he’d price himself out of our range the following year.

[DuWayne Steurer]

But why give multi-year deals to these guys? It doesn't make sense. You are paying two years for a guy that hasn't proven he can pitch one.

 

Because if we’re right we get 2 good years from Lyles instead of 1. If he has the kind of year his stuff/command warrants, he’d price himself out of our range the following year.

 

 

This is how teams like the Orioles and lolMets and Tigers land at the bottoms of their divisions for several years in a row. By being run like video game teams.

[pacopete4]

But why give multi-year deals to these guys? It doesn't make sense. You are paying two years for a guy that hasn't proven he can pitch one.

 

Because if we’re right we get 2 good years from Lyles instead of 1. If he has the kind of year his stuff/command warrants, he’d price himself out of our range the following year.

 

 

This is how teams like the Orioles and lolMets and Tigers land at the bottoms of their divisions for several years in a row. By being run like video game teams.

 

That was my point. And since he hated Chacin so much, I thought he would have connected the dots because that was pretty much the contract we had with him.

[tmwiese55]

I bet PItt really wishes they gave him a 2-3 year guaranteed deal after his hot start to the year.

[Brew crew 92]

But why give multi-year deals to these guys? It doesn't make sense. You are paying two years for a guy that hasn't proven he can pitch one.

 

Because if we’re right we get 2 good years from Lyles instead of 1. If he has the kind of year his stuff/command warrants, he’d price himself out of our range the following year.

 

 

This is how teams like the Orioles and lolMets and Tigers land at the bottoms of their divisions for several years in a row. By being run like video game teams.

 

So the extra year and it’s now a video game run team. Or, maybe if one really believes in Lyles, then the smart move would be the 3 year deal. Do pitcher’s between the age of 28-31 still get 3 year deals for let’s say 18 million? If he’d take that I’d go 3 in a heartbeat.

[tmwiese55]

Wow, just wow. All I can say to this.

[pacopete4]

So the extra year and it’s now a video game run team. Or, maybe if one really believes in Lyles, then the smart move would be the 3 year deal. Do pitcher’s between the age of 28-31 still get 3 year deals for let’s say 18 million? If he’d take that I’d go 3 in a heartbeat.

 

Yes, because you've randomly tossed out extra years and money to just about anything with an arm or a "good eye" at the plate. All of that adds up at the end of the day. I implore you to look back through all of your posts and see how many ideas you have just flung out there to build a team and see if you can actually make sense of it. I would bet that if you did, and realized all of the things you have posted, you may understand why people question you so frequently around here.

[monkeyman343434]

Hiura getting hot again! Great double down the line for a Badger Mutual Insurance run.

[jerichoholicninja]

I guess Josh just remembered he throws a second pitch. Only took him a couple months to do so.

[adambr2]

3/18 for Lyles is nuts, so no thanks on that. I'm glad he's having success for us, though.

[Brew crew 92]

So the extra year and it’s now a video game run team. Or, maybe if one really believes in Lyles, then the smart move would be the 3 year deal. Do pitcher’s between the age of 28-31 still get 3 year deals for let’s say 18 million? If he’d take that I’d go 3 in a heartbeat.

 

Yes, because you've randomly tossed out extra years and money to just about anything with an arm or a "good eye" at the plate. All of that adds up at the end of the day. I implore you to look back through all of your posts and see how many ideas you have just flung out there to build a team and see if you can actually make sense of it. I would bet that if you did, and realized all of the things you have posted, you may understand why people question you so frequently around here.

 

I’ll admit a few bad takes and predictions, beyond the 3-4 TOR prediction. But I’ve been dead on numerous takes too. But getting back to this Lyles take, Lyles at 18 for 3 is a less risky deal than Chacin for 2 at 16. Lyles is younger and has way better stuff.

[PinaMadness]

We salvage a game in the series!!!!!

[adambr2]

Glad we got one.

[folly412]

Series salvaged. The Salvage Yard re-opens on Sunday.

[adambr2]

So the extra year and it’s now a video game run team. Or, maybe if one really believes in Lyles, then the smart move would be the 3 year deal. Do pitcher’s between the age of 28-31 still get 3 year deals for let’s say 18 million? If he’d take that I’d go 3 in a heartbeat.

 

Yes, because you've randomly tossed out extra years and money to just about anything with an arm or a "good eye" at the plate. All of that adds up at the end of the day. I implore you to look back through all of your posts and see how many ideas you have just flung out there to build a team and see if you can actually make sense of it. I would bet that if you did, and realized all of the things you have posted, you may understand why people question you so frequently around here.

 

I’ll admit a few bad takes and predictions, beyond the 3-4 TOR prediction. But I’ve been dead on numerous takes too. But getting back to this Lyles take, Lyles at 18 for 3 is a less risky deal than Chacin for 2 at 16. Lyles is younger and has way better stuff.

 

Which numerous takes have you been dead on?

 

You know what kind of 3 year deal makes perfect sense for Lyles? Something like what we gave to Jeffress, perhaps with a little more money.

 

Something like 1 year/3M, with a 2nd team option year for 5M, with a 3rd year team option year for 7M.

 

That kind of deal I could see Lyles getting. 3/18, no chance.