2019-08-19: Brewers (Davies) at Cardinals (Hudson) [Brewers lose, 3-0]

[wildcat83]

The Cards went against the book and walked Yelich. Something that we lost a couple games refusing to do. Remember one with Suarez for sure.

[Brewcrewin07]

I'm still in but barely...hanging by a thread...it all comes down to tomorrow night for me...they lose, the season is officially over IMO and I'm done paying attention. Win, and I will still be in..but barely.

[Brewcrewin07]

The Cards went against the book and walked Yelich. Something that we lost a couple games refusing to do. Remember one with Suarez for sure.

 

 

Yup and look, it worked. Yet you're right, CC absolutely lost a couple games this year by refusing to do the same thing when it was totally obvious.

[Brew crew 92]

Offense is absolutely pathetic. This team never gets any big hits, continually puts too much pressure on a pitching staff that’s CONSTANTLY pitching in high stress situations seemingly EVERY game. How many games has this team scored enough runs to relieve stress on this staff?

[brewers888]

I am disappointed but not that surprised with the way this season has gone. My far deeper concern is where we go after this season. With little talent on the way I would try to move Hader and would even consider trading Yelich if someone is willing to give us a huge return.

 

Such a waste to basically be an average team with a player like Yelich yet here we are. When you consider our run differential and most likely losing either Moustakas or Grandal and possibly both I see a lot to be pessimistic about. Stearns is going to have a lot to prove moving forward and we all better hope he is up to the challenge.

[TURBO]

I'm still in but barely...hanging by a thread...it all comes down to tomorrow night for me...they lose, the season is officially over IMO and I'm done paying attention. Win, and I will still be in..but barely.

 

I don't believe you.

 

So if we lose tomorrow night, you will no longer pay attention to them the rest of the season, and stop posting?

 

I just don't believe it.

[Brew crew 92]

So looking back at what point was the brewers season really over?

In my view it was the decision to send Hiura back down the first time. It wasn't so much about the on field production even though we all knew it was a bad move. It was more about what it said about how badly they really wanted to win. It was almost like yeah he should be here but we owe it to these guys over here even though they are terrible. Right at that point I said this team is in trouble and Stearns is not all in on winning this year. He has made no moves that prove otherwise. He has chewed through a huge amount of good will this season with his lack of foresight and productivity.

 

Agree.

Super 2 on a player with a 70 hit tool?

 

Sign the guy to a 8 year contract. If it’s not done before next opening day, Stearns needs to go.

[Brewcrewin07]

I'm still in but barely...hanging by a thread...it all comes down to tomorrow night for me...they lose, the season is officially over IMO and I'm done paying attention. Win, and I will still be in..but barely.

 

I don't believe you.

 

So if we lose tomorrow night, you will no longer pay attention to them the rest of the season, and stop posting?

 

I just don't believe it.

 

Yup...football season is right around the corner anyway, that's where my focus will be.

[Brewcrewin07]

So looking back at what point was the brewers season really over?

In my view it was the decision to send Hiura back down the first time. It wasn't so much about the on field production even though we all knew it was a bad move. It was more about what it said about how badly they really wanted to win. It was almost like yeah he should be here but we owe it to these guys over here even though they are terrible. Right at that point I said this team is in trouble and Stearns is not all in on winning this year. He has made no moves that prove otherwise. He has chewed through a huge amount of good will this season with his lack of foresight and productivity.

 

Agree.

Super 2 on a player with a 70 hit tool?

 

Sign the guy to a 8 year contract. If it’s not done before next opening day, Stearns needs to go.

 

Strikes out way too much yet to anoint him IMO. IF he can cut down on that, the sky is the limit for him no doubt about it.

[Brew crew 92]

I am disappointed but not that surprised with the way this season has gone. My far deeper concern is where we go after this season. With little talent on the way I would try to move Hader and would even consider trading Yelich if someone is willing to give us a huge return.

 

Such a waste to basically be an average team with a player like Yelich yet here we are. When you consider our run differential and most likely losing either Moustakas or Grandal and possibly both I see a lot to be pessimistic about. Stearns is going to have a lot to prove moving forward and we all better hope he is up to the challenge.

 

Not sure Attanasio would allow the trade of Yelich. It would be the high water mark, Dodgers would jump I think, 3-4 of their best prospects, padres the same. Hader for sure, get what we can this offseason, 3 top prospects. Re-tool quickly. Build around Woodruff Hiura Grisham Houser.

[Jopal78]

It’s just a bad mix of players. They’re all talented in their own right but the sum of the whole is actually lesser than the parts. When they don’t homer they have trouble scoring. When they hit they don’t pitch, when they pitch they don’t hit. Spectacular defensive plays are followed by muffs of the routine defensive plays.

[The stache]

Combined no hitters are such weak sauce. Just my opinion.

 

As a Brewers fan that has witnessed one no hitter in 41 years, I'd gladly take a combined no hitter from this staff. Beggars can't be choosers.

 

One hit tonight. One.

 

The next two are must wins. Time is running out.

[adambr2]

Let me guess, just gotta tip our caps to the opposing pitchers. The bills of our caps must be worn from all the cap tipping we've done this year. I wish we had some nights when the opposing team was tipping their respective caps to our pitchers.

[The stache]

This team never gets any big hits.

 

I know it feels like that after a game when we got one hit. But I seem to remember just a couple of nights ago when we were down 8-11 going into the ninth inning in Washington. Then Yelich homered. Hiura doubled. Moose hit a two-run bomb, and Braun hit a solo shot to put us up 12-11.

 

I'd say that was four pretty big hits in a row.

 

The problem this team has, as I see it, and it's maddeningly apparent in games like this one tonight, is that they are too feast or famine. When they're hitting the ball into the seats, they can score runs in the bunches. Before tonight's game, they had 202 home runs, third best in the National League. Yet, we're only 8th with 601 runs scored. League average is 598 runs scored. With all that firepower, we're in the middle of the pack.

 

We have a lot of trouble manufacturing runs without the long ball.

 

I'm looking on baseball reference trying to figure out where within the splits it shows home run logs. I am wondering how many of out 601 runs scored came as a result of the long ball. Then, I'd like to compare that to the other teams in the National League.

[The stache]

Ok, I think I found it. The team https://tinyurl.com/yxh22rtcbatting event finder, for 2019, the Brewers shows that we've scored 316 of our runs via the home run.

 

We've hit 3 grand slams (+9 runs)

We've hit 27 3-run home runs (+54 runs)

We've hit 51 2-run home runs (+51 runs)

We've hit 121 solo home runs.

 

So, we've scored 285 runs without the long ball.

[TJseven7]

Unwatchable is exactly what football is and replay led it to a slow and agonizing death. I'd rather have no replay and trashed calls than replay, agonizing pace, the field-scan for flags after EVERY climactic play, and oh, by the way, THEY STILL GET THEM WRONG ALL THE TIME.

 

You have a pace concern with Football but you like BASEBALL?

 

The flags issue with football is that you could find defensive holding or illegal contact on every play. You could call offensive holding on nearly every play. Every flag is up to the refs to decide if it was impactful enough. And they now rely on review to make the decision for them because they don't want to kill a play and disallow a fumble returned for a TD.

 

The game is too fast for them to see on the field these days. If they put 10 refs in a booth and used camera angles to follow offensive players they could make it happen quick... but that would be expensive.

[Bulldogboy]

Offer the Dodgers Hader before he completely tanks his value this off season. Get Lux and Verdugo in any deal and rebuild.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

At least Zach Davies was solid tonight. Not great, but good enough that he should have kept a decent offense in the game.

[adambr2]

At least Zach Davies was solid tonight. Not great, but good enough that he should have kept a decent offense in the game.

 

Absolutely. Unfortunately, we're getting pretty late in the season for moral victories. The standings still aren't a problem -- we came back from a bigger deficit in September last year. The problem to me is that this team just isn't going to be good enough.

 

Last year, when Knebel started coming into form, when the team acquired Soria and Burnes was pitching lights out in the pen, you just got the sense that they could make a run.

 

I just don't have that this year. Woodruff is the big one, but by then it might be too little, too late. Right now the pitching help on the way and in reserve is Brent Suter, Bobby Wahl, Ray Black, Jake Faria...I just don't see it. I just don't think these guys are good enough to carry us to the kind of September we had last year.

[Bulldogboy]

I know he gave up a bomb but so far Williams appears to part of the answer not the problem. Like him to keep getting opportunities. Wish they had a few more like him.

[owbc]

It seems like every time the Brewers are at this point they find a way to stay in the race. I predict they win the next two and take the series.

[adambr2]

It seems like every time the Brewers are at this point they find a way to stay in the race. I predict they win the next two and take the series.

 

It has really seemed like the opposite to me, any time they start to build any sort of momentum they quickly lose a couple games and end up right back at square one. They're only in the race by default because the NL has been a big bowl of mediocrity outside of the Dodgers and Braves. But I obviously hope you're right.

[geargroy]

It seems like every time the Brewers are at this point they find a way to stay in the race. I predict they win the next two and take the series.

 

It has really seemed like the opposite to me, any time they start to build any sort of momentum they quickly lose a couple games and end up right back at square one. They're only in the race by default because the NL has been a big bowl of mediocrity outside of the Dodgers and Braves. But I obviously hope you're right.

I sure hope when doomsday comes I have you two to think positive.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

At least Zach Davies was solid tonight. Not great, but good enough that he should have kept a decent offense in the game.

 

Absolutely. Unfortunately, we're getting pretty late in the season for moral victories. The standings still aren't a problem -- we came back from a bigger deficit in September last year. The problem to me is that this team just isn't going to be good enough.

 

Last year, when Knebel started coming into form, when the team acquired Soria and Burnes was pitching lights out in the pen, you just got the sense that they could make a run.

 

I just don't have that this year. Woodruff is the big one, but by then it might be too little, too late. Right now the pitching help on the way and in reserve is Brent Suter, Bobby Wahl, Ray Black, Jake Faria...I just don't see it. I just don't think these guys are good enough to carry us to the kind of September we had last year.

 

Just looking for the positives in what was a rough evening. Hudson is the type of pitcher this team was built to destroy, and they were horrid. This team continues to be one of the most frustrating teams in recent memory to root for ... well this and the 2012 team. So many similarities between the two.

[adambr2]

Yep. Lefties destroy Dakota Hudson to a tune of a .906 OPS. He is a righty bat killer, but lefties destroy Hudson. And we have a lineup that is built with lefties to an almost ridiculous degree and we couldn't touch Hudson.