2019 Green Bay Packers Season Thread

[HiAndTight]

I don't honestly know what Kizer is. I know Boyle looked more impressive this pre-season by the numbers, but the last two games, particularly the interior OL was so bad when Kizer got in there, he had no time to throw.

 

That throw that he dropped right into Shepards hands for what would have been a ~50 yard completion shows what he's capable of, and then that pick showed the downside.

 

 

 

Anyway, gonna post my 53 man in a second, but Brandon Marshall just got cut from Oakland. He could be the ideal player for the Packers to go and pick up to help their MLB'er depth. Has some knee issues last year, but he's been a good LB'er for a while in the NFL.

[nodakfan17]

Does Kizer have any trade value?

 

I think his ceiling currently is a 6th and his floor is a waiver claim.

[wildcat83]

Demovsky tweeted that Boyle not expected to be cut. He’s either the 2 or they’re keeping 3.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Cody Kessler was cut by the Eagles today. I like him better than Kizer and Boyle. doesn't have Rodgers' arm strength (no one does), but good mobility and smart.

[young guns]

Saw Carolina is gonna put ganno on IR. Without knowing anything about their backup I wonder if they are a trade candidate for the kicker we don't keep.

[CheezWizHed]

Brandon Marshall (LB not WR), was released. Might be a good fit at ILB if he is healthy.

[HiAndTight]

if the packers think they can stash boyle on the PS, I'm fine with that. They got burnt when they tried to do that with Hill a few years back.

 

I agree on the shepherd fumble may have hurt him, but its one play. Davis has had a decent preseason too, so it will be interesting to see if that helps his cause or if his injury history does him in. If Davis does get cut, I do think Shepherd will get a chance to return kicks. If Davis makes the team, than his fate is sealed. Lazard is a guy I think you need to figure out how to keep. I'm just concerned if you do keep ESB on the 53 to put him on the IR designated to return tag, you may lose him.

 

 

I don't know if they really got burnt. I don't think we use Taysom Hill anything like the Saints and I'm not sure Hill is much more than Tim Tebow, but more willing to play multiple positions. Hill's big plays have come on rushes, catches, blocked punts, fake punts.

 

But even if you think we got burnt then, Boyle has a nice arm, but doesn't possess many of the intangibles he does. I certainly would rather have trotted Hill out there and hope he could win a couple games playing that FB/QB old school style of play that Luck would revert to that got him so beat up.

 

 

As for WR'er, you just keep 7. You can start out with just the 2 RB's. We don't need Dexter Williams on the initial 53 man among others. Go with 2 RB's and 7 WR'ers, put St. Brown on IR and then try and add that RB after Bolton and St. Brown are protected.

 

As for Lazard, I still don't know what he actually is. I'd feel better if he'd gone up against some better Corners. Every team seems to have that big WR'er who is "catching the eye," of the Head Coaches, but they eventually do very little. Can Lazard actually separate? Or is he more of a red zone, throw him open, special teams ace type of guy(he has shown up on ST's in a big way).

 

 

If the roster shakes out close to how many expect, we should be pretty damn good in kick coverage.

[HiAndTight]

DISCLAIMER-

This isn't exactly what I think the roster will be by end of the day. For instance, it sounds like they'll go 3 deep at QB. I don't think they should. It also sounds like they're going to hold the line with Lane Taylor as the starter despite Jenkins clearly outplaying him from what I've seen.

 

This is what I'd like to see done...in most cases, it's pretty obvious what they'll do. The Practice Squad numbers aren't exact because that's a bit of a fools errand. They'll make some changes, some guys may go elsewhere, it's just my opinion on who they currently have at each position.

 

And the most tape I watch on my boy Nijman, the most I really believe he could be the replacement for Bulaga. Maybe my favorite camp guy.

 

I also shared a not very brief synopsis of each position and my reasoning. Believe it or not, I took a lot out. Ignore, disagree with it, I felt like doing it, so I did.

 

 

 

QB-2

Rodgers, Kizer

 

It sounds like they may keep all 3. I think you can slide Boyle through waivers and I personally don’t like seeing the young talented QB’s who get thrown out there for terrible teams right out of the gate, get beat up, develop bad habits and then never stick around long enough to break them. So I’d like to see Kizer here for a 2nd year, it’s still his 5th offense in 5 years. He has all the tools, you could see it on that throw that he dropped in that on Shepard, but he makes some mistakes. Not sure who it was, but that crossing route where he had pressure and the WR’er stopped his route. That’s what your supposed to do there, sit down between the zone and Kizer’s bad side came out.

 

PS-Boyle

 

Running Backs/FB-3

Aaron Jones, Jamal Williams, Danny Vitale

I don’t think the Packers #3 back is on the roster right now. And if he is, I think you’ll be able to pick Dexter Williams or Ford, or Carson back up. I think they all clear. So, go with 2 for now so you can get the extra WR’er spot.

 

PS 1-2-Dexter Williams/Malcolm Johnson-6th rounder shows some promise. If you’re going to play in this scheme where the stretch play is kinda THE play that sets up the rest of the offense, you need to be far more patient and you need better vision. Running hard is great, but running hard and missing our cutback lane doesn’t help and Williams did a lot of that. The only fix may be playing time, but I think they look elsewhere.

 

As for Johnson, he's athletic, pass-catching FB whom I believe was a TE in college. Based on how the staff has indicated it would like to use the FB position, maybe you keep an extra FB who has as much talent as

 

TE-(4)

Graham, Tonyan, Sternberger, Lewis

 

Gotta get more out of Graham. I think Tonyan is ready to break out. Former QB turned WR’er, turned TE now in the pros. He’s a lot more physical this year, but he’s still a poor blocker. Did not get to see Sternberger enough to really judge his inline blocking, but that was a question coming out of college. So you really kinda need that behemoth that is Mercedes Lewis. While it wouldn’t be ideal, if one of your tackles went down, Lewis is the type of guy who could line up next to the tackle and really help neutralize some of the elite pass rushers(and we face a LOT of great pass rushers and what may be just as difficult a team with a lot of really good pass rushers like the Eagles who just keep sending them like the ‘Hawks used to.

 

PS-0Baylis would be a long shot IMO to latch on to the PS to start the year, but I could see the Packers calling him back in the future if someone goes down.

 

WR’er-7

Locks; Adams, Kumerow, Scantlin

Near lock; Allison

Very good bet- Davis, Lazard, St Brown.

 

Pretty damn impressive on Kumerow’s part that the 27-year-old D-3 player who started his College career late and has very little NFL experience is a lock at this point. I remember an assistant on the Badgers staff telling me and another board member that UW-Whitewater had a future NFL QB and WR’er back when they were during their dominant run. I kinda rolled my eyes a bit thinking, “well, yeah, they look good against D-3.) Well, Callahan IS an NFL QB. He’s stuck around for years and he’s made quite a bit of money (for us normal folk) playing a game and now Kumerow is a lock to make the Packers and could legitimately get 75+ targets this year. There’s really nothing he doesn’t do well. He’s big, not a burner, but fast enough and he can get open. He just does everything right; manages to get separation and he goes up for the ball so strong.

Adams is like a Modern Day Sharpe for the Packers. One of the best, a legit #1.

MVS, 6’4, 4.37, strong hands. Routes still look a bit rounded off to me, but what do I know. I don’t get the coaches tape and usually only see the catch, not the break. Didn’t play much.

Allison-I have Allison as a near lock. As of right now, he’s a starter and I doubt anything happens to change that. But it wouldn’t shock me to see the Packers trade him if there’s a trade to be made. He’s like Kumerow but less athletic. The Packers have a lot of redundancy with their WR’er and he just doesn’t have much upside. Still, he has a good rapport with Rodgers, so you'd have to feel very confident in your depth. But for argument's sake, if you could deal Allison for a young MLB’er who could play right away, not sure how much you’re losing. You’re losing depth and a good player, but again, we’re deep and have a lot of big, physical guys.

 

Davis-All the talk about how great he looked in OTA’s and in camp and Bahk picking him to be the breakout player and talking about how this offense is perfectly suited for him…plus his return ability. Still, it’s been ONE game and a couple of nice catches at Family Night.

Lazard-The Iowa State all-time leading pass catcher looks like he may finally stick. If he does, it will be as much for his ability to play special teams as his play at WR’er. He’s been outstanding as a gunner on special teams, similar to when Jannis was here. Many teams had him as a TE when he came out until he ran a 4.55 at the combine. 6’5, 230…not much of a stretch. I’m loving the idea of a 1st and goal at 5 with Jimmy Graham in the slot, Adams wide left, MVS in the other slot and Lazard on the other outside. Those are goaline targets and they all go up and attack the ball and have strong hands.

Equanimeous St. Brown-Goes to IR. I’ve been a bit disappointed in St. Brown. There were mock drafts that had him going to us on Day 2 when he came out. He became an UDFA in large part due to the significant drop in numbers at ND after Kizer left and there were some knocks against him that he wasn’t aggressive enough, wasn’t competitive enough. Again, we only see a bit, but it does not appear those questions have been put to rest yet. He is one of my favorite guys on the team personally, so I’m rooting for him. Also have to keep in mind, he’s still just 22 years old and I think unless the Packers suffer a string of injuries at WR’er, by the time week 6-7 rolls around, they’ll likely have more important players to use the “designated to return,” but he still has a huge upside if he matures a bit more and learns from guys like Adams, Kumerow, Allison, guys who do all the little things right and don’t just try to run past and out jump everyone, he could develop into a legit deep threat.

 

PS-1 Shepard is a lock for the PS if he doesn’t get picked up…and I don’t think he does. I think every team has several WR’ers they really like. I like Malik Taylor as well. Another D-2 Ferris guy the Packers have in camp(Sheldon the other). Not gonna make the roster, not gonna make the PS…at least not early in the season, another guy who may get brought back after bouncing around a bit or if injuries hit.

-Shepard has that suddenness that the other WR’ers are lacking. Again, I’m still not positive what our base formations are, or our tendencies. I’ve heard LeFleur likes a lot of bunch formations, quickness from the slot isn’t as important coming out of there, especially compared to route running(see Kupp, Cooper) but you always want that guy who can run that little dig route, that little speed out route, ala Hunter Renfroe vs ‘Bama in Clemson’s first title game.

 

OL (10): - David Bakhtiari, Corey Linsley, Bryan Bulaga, Billy Turner, Lane Taylor, Elgton Jenkins, Alex Light, Lucas Patrick, Adam Pankey, Yosh Nijman.

 

The more I watched Nijman, the less I believed the Packers would give up an elite athlete with the ideal size, length and feet to be a starting NFL tackle. This was a guy many believed had worked his way up to the 3-4th rounds with his workout and he's shown not only the ability to protect the blindside but punish guys in the running game. He's not ready, but I think he could play this year and be serviceable.

 

Whoever they keep in the final couple spots, I happen to think they go with Patrick and Pankey, but they’re as well covered as they’ve been in a while AND they’ve got potential developmental players, . young studs ready to go right away and vets. Jenkins clearly outplayed Taylor to me and when LeFleur comes out and says Taylor is the starter for “continuity,” that suggests to me that they believe Jenkins is better as well.

I STILL believe there could be a late trade here. I’m back and forth on Madison. It’s not because of the penalties, I just don’t think he’s even close to being able to hold up vs starters in an NFL game right now, so I don’t think other teams are going to be claiming him. Of course, the reason I have for Yosh Nijman making the 53 is that I’m far more worried another team may pick him up given the dearth of starting tackles in the NFL and tackle is obviously so much more objectively valuable than guard, if you think you found a potential future starter, you HAVE to keep them. Especially one with elite athleticism and Bulaga's contract up next year. You don't want to overpay for a 31-year-old tackle with his injury history and you'd have to get pretty lucky to find one in the draft that can step right in. I think this guy will be one of the biggeste surprises. So that's why I have 10 guys on the OL making it.

 

PS-1-Madison-This is going to come down to how confident the Packers will be able to get Madison through waivers. A guard who sat out a year and is rusty should get through. There's always teams though with no plans on competing who will take a chance. Madison has looked bad to me. I've seen others on other forums argue from he's not an NFL player to every team would put a claim in on him. I'd offer him half a full-season salary, let him work out the rust on the PS and he'd be the 1st guy activted if there was an injury on the line.

 

 

Defensive Line-(6)

Kenny Clark, Dean Lowry, Montravius Adams, Tyler Lancaster, Kinsley Keke, Fadol Brown

These 5 are all obvious. Clark is still only 23 and ready to take off. They should try and sign him ASAP as he’s going to make a lot of money. Lowry’s just solid, steady. Not very athletic, but good leverage, great motor. Adams….I’m not sure what to make of him yet, but I do trust Pettine. He says the big guy has really turned a corner and based on the scouting reports of him, how dominant he could be at times and now how he’s rebuilt his body, I’m feeling confident there. Lancaster is steady. Solid. I guess he’s your backup NT or 0 Technique.

Keke has really looked good. He’s gotten turned a bit in the running game, but that’s being picky. He’s looked good in pre-season and he looks like he’s added 10-15 pounds from the 288 he played at A&M last year. Could be a nice inside pass rusher and eventually take over as a starting 5 in the base. Hard to say what his ceiling is, but I think his floor is an active, disruptor and quality depth. That’s great for a mid round interior pass rusher. Does struggle vs the run a bit. He’s not really the guy you want eating up blocks as he’s more of a penetrator. That is why the Chiefs scored that rushing TD yesterday to make it 20-20 IIRC. Simon and Looney stood their blockers up, Simon was getting doubled, Keke turned his shoulders to try and penetrate when all he had to do was not give ground and the guard turned him and pushed him out of the play. Sill, another exciting young guy for this defense that should grow together.

 

 

PS-1 James Looney-

I'm inclined to put Simon on the practice squad in the event that we need another NT, but at 29, I don't think it's likely.

I THINK he did enough that he'd likely get a better offer elsewhere.

 

OLB’er-4

Za’Daris Smith, Preston Smith, Rashan Gary, Kyler Fackrel

 

Not much to say here other than I wish we had more depth. I’ve never seen the Packers put as much capital into one position as they did OLB’er and I think it’s going to pay dividends right away with the two Smiths. Just those two players change the way this defense looks…. literally. Matthews was a smaller OLB’er and Perry was a bigger guy, but these guys are much bigger and they’re incredibly consistent and durable. Balanced, good vs the run, they are not as explosive as Matthews, so they won’t turn as many pressures into sacks, but they move the QB off his spot, they make him feel it and that’s when you get rushed throws.

Gary looks like a Rookie playing a new position. He looks athletic as hell; he can bend and his first punch is powerful, knocking some tackles back on their heels. Problem is, I’ve seen the Bull rush, the speed rush. And again, he’s fast and he can bend, but he needs to develop his repertoire. That’ll come with time. He’s active, he chases down runs from the backside, he sets the edge, and most importantly, he's a high effort type guy. Combine elite athletic ability with effort and you can be great. Lots of complaining about his stats. If he wasn't playing hard, getting some pressure, but just got 2 garbage sacks, people would be screaming about him. Overall, he’s played well this pre-season regardless of the stats.

I will be interested to see what Fackrell can do this year. He wasn’t as good as a typical 10+ sack guy last year…in fact, he got a sack on I believe about 45 pct of his pressures as opposed to Preston Smith who got a sack roughly on 12 pct. Read the article a while back, so can't recall the exact numbers PFF used. Point is, Smith should have had more, Fackrell fewer. Going off memory from an old PFF article. But even still, ever year he gets better. Can he take that next jump and by a guy who gets 30 pressures in a limited role?

 

PS-1; I guess I’ll go with Markus Jones. I would have said Ramsey before the last pre-season game, but when you put a performance like that on tape, it’s hard to pass it up. Trading Gilbert leads me to believe they think they have another competent edge player developing.

 

MLB’ers-(4)

Martinez, Burks, Summers, Bolton(IR), Crawford/(Most likely a trade/signing).

 

Crawford goes through waivers so they can put Bolton on IR...again, asuming it's serious. We haven't heard yet.

 

Brandon Marshall-A bit of a surprise cut. Coming back from a knee injury, says he's 100 pct healthy, he'd been playing with the Raiders(hence the surprise). Pretty athletic. If you can get him for ~2.5+ incentives for 750, I'd do it. Otherwise there will be other options available.

 

Blake Martinez is somewhere between, average, above average, really good and so bad that it makes a certain poster want to puke.

Rated as the best MLB’er in the NFC North by PFF, the Packers have one of the two MLB’er positions locked down. 5 sacks last year, 144 tackles, he gets in trouble when the OL gets to him, but he’s among the best in the league at shooting the gap. 10 TFL last year, 9 Passes defended. He says he’s gotten bigger, changed his diet. CoolhandLuke would love it(I feel safe, he doesn't read the Packers stuff and I doubt anyone else is at this point), but I don’t know if it’s player speak or legit. But if he could take one more step, that’s a consistent pro bowler.

Burks seems likely to miss at least a month. He has suggested it would be less, but I’m skeptical. A torn peck, even partially is going to be a VERY difficult injury for a LB;er to play with and not make it worse. You’re always reaching back to grab a guy, in awkward positions. I have to say, I’m baffled how that was the injury based on how he got hit when he got hurt.

Bolton and Summers, two extremely athletic, but undersized LB’ers stepped in until Bolton got hurt.

Summers, who ran a 4.51 40(compared to Bolton’s 4.53) and posted outstanding all around scores at the combine has been on the field as much as anyone this pre-season. He struggled with tackles early, a result of all the “thud” practices they now do in my opinion, but in any event, he’s improved.

 

PS-1-Sheldon;

Again, this is what I think they should do. Sheldon I believe played safety in College, got to the NFL, weighed about 200 pounds, the Raiders worked with him on the edge, the Packers started him out there and then moved him to MLB’er. He ran a 4.52, had a 38 Inch vertical IIRC. He seemed like he has a pretty good feel for the position. Maybe I’m reading too much into the early cuts, but seems unlikely one of the first guys you cut is going to end up on your practice squad. Still, Sheldon was intriguing because he could do so many things. As a former safety, he can track the ball, after playing edge his first couple years in the NFL, he’s learned some pass rush, and now at MLB’er, he was pretty active, he’s 6’5, looks like he has a 8 foot wingspan. Shot the gap a few times forcing the RB to cut back into help defenders in the Chiefs game. A long way from playing and they likely don’t want to spend the time developing a MLB’er.

 

CB(6)

Jaire Alexander, Kevin King, Tramon Williams, Josh Jackson, Tony Brown, Ka’dar Hollman

 

Alexander- was good last year. Should have more chances to make splash plays with the pass rush.

King- is great….on those rare occasions he plays. It’d be amazing for this team if he could finally put together a healthy season.

Tramon-Is the old vet, but he’s still got plenty of quickness to play the slot or step outside if need be.

Brown-He’s an elite athlete and some have said he had the best camp of anyone. I took that to mean of any of the new guys/young guys, but he really looks like a Sam Shields type out there. Attacks the ball, plays with a swagger, doesn’t panic if the WR’er has a step on him, he fights through it.

Jackson-People talk about how he can’t play press man, I think that’s nonsense. He’s faster and tested better across the board than Marcus Peters. He’s not as good, but he’s a similar type of player. Physical, longer, he does NOT do well with the TY Hilton types, but he’s a bigger, more physical Corner. I would expect a transition to FS down the road, but his “slow speed,” is a disputed time at the combine. They originally had it at 4.49, one of the electronic timers had him there, another had him at 4.56. He ran it again, 4.52. So….not NEARLY as important as agility, vertical, how well he plays the ball, the fact that he’s a former WR’er, so he has a better feel for the routes. He needs to have a big year this year.

Hollman-Fast, athletic. Like a poor mans Brown in this off-season, but pretty safely on the roster.

 

PS-1, maybe 2Sullivan is obvious to me(well, to everyone). I just hope we’re not bringing him up within a week due to a certain injury.

Ento is another interesting player. With the questionable durability, I think he’s flashed a bit, particularly given how raw he is as a converted WR'er. He's done a good job getting his head around and playing the ball. I think he could really improve on the PS. Clearly the #8 corner, but I think he has a chance. Great short area quickness, 41 inch vertical...just needs time. It'd seem silly to invest all this time into him and then not keep working with him.

 

Safety-4

Amos/Savage/Green/Jamerson/Campbell PUP

Still haven’t really seen Savage. I’ve heard some Earl Thomas comps, but if he plays even CLOSE to the style Thomas does, the way he can run down the ball, track it and just separate the ball from the reciever is amazing. Hopefully Savage has some of that.

Amos might be the best addition of the off-season.

Green might be the most improved player on the Packers. He’s just totally rebuilt his body…and he’s been working out at the Safety/Nickel backer hybrid. I think he’s going to clean up the flats and punish backs running those swing routes and is more than capable of covering the safety in the seam.

I don’t have a strong opinion on Campbell. The Packers obviously like him. Jamerson might be better suited for what is a very crowded practice squad by now, but I think it’d be a good idea to keep that versatility around IF he doesn’t make the 53 man.

 

PS-0Probably nobody unless Jamerson gets cut, but Tre Matthews has looked physical and he’s a very hard-hitting, but clean hitting safety. He also drives through guys, so backs haven’t been running over him for extra yards. He's also very good at timing his hits to knock the ball loose.

 

ST's-3

Crosby-Kicker

Scott-Punter

Bradley-LS

 

I do NOT want to see Crosby, a cold-weather kicker solving the Bears or Vikings problems. Let them take a chance on Ficken.

[HiAndTight]

Does Kizer have any trade value?

 

I think his ceiling currently is a 6th and his floor is a waiver claim.

 

 

No, I think he has zero trade value and I think it's 50/50 that he even gets claimed.

This is a guy who really just needs to sit for 2 years behind Rodgers in ONE offense. I'm not confident he sticks, but I am confident that if he'd been handled properly, he'd be a very good backup QB and possibly a good starter(good closer to Winston/Mariotta than Matty Ryan....etc...

 

 

Incidentally, has ANYONE heard anything about Nick Perry? I saw in the comments section in the Green Bay Gazette maybe? Not positive, but it was talking about the potential of bringing Nick Perry back this year for the vet minimum. And of course, half the fans lose their minds, but if you could get him for the veteran minimum, and he could come in and rotate with the guys we've got their now?

 

That would make us so much more dangerous. Have him play 20-25 snaps instead of 75. He's one of the best in the NFL at setting the edge and he can get to the QB. it seems entirely unrealistic. I've never heard of a situation like this...coming back in the same year. But maybe Perry's just real about it and knows they had to cut him? Any chance??

 

I'm curious if anyone would be opposed. He wouldn't play ahead of Gary....I'm not seeing a downside. They're top-heavy at OLB'er, they only have 4 guys now with Gilbert traded. Perry is undisputedly a good player when healthy.

 

 

Two other Guys who were Cut-

Brandon Marshall- 6'1 245

Good fit for 21 personnel, not an every-down LB'er anymore, but if healthy, a steady, smart player and a good tackler.

Shane Ray-Former 1st rounder was waived by the Ravens. He's athletic and talented. He one good season and then not much else.

[PeaveyFury]

Brandon Marshall (LB not WR), was released. Might be a good fit at ILB if he is healthy.

 

The last part is obviously the key, but he was a very productive 3-4 ILB in Denver just two seasons ago. Not sure what happened in Oakland, but might be a legit opportunity.

[CheezWizHed]

I would take Perry at a vet minimum in heartbeat. When healthy, he was very good. By paying him a vet minimum, you are compensating him appropriately for the amount of time he'd be healthy...

 

Can't cut Dex Williams. He'd be claimed in a heartbeat. Too great of a burst to pass. I'd be shocked if Lazard or Shepherd were claimed. There are many of end of the roster WRs like them.

 

Kizer actually looked comfortable that last game. His accuracy still comes and goes, but he looked decisive, ran the offense, ran his progressions.. all things that I watch in preseason (when you can't rely on a 3rd string OL to block or a 4th string WR to catch). I think Boyle still has more arm talent (strength, accuracy... touch can be taught with reps), but I'd guess they keep both. I don't think Wilkins really showed enough for the PS.

 

I'd be shocked if we don't have waiver/FA ILB at the end of the weekend. Crawford didn't really show anything. Probably a 4th safety too. I'm hoping some horse-trading can happen too. Wolf was great as a GM of cherry-picking a need off someone's roster for a low draft pick or player swap.

[nodakfan17]

Does Kizer have any trade value?

 

I think his ceiling currently is a 6th and his floor is a waiver claim.

 

 

No, I think he has zero trade value and I think it's 50/50 that he even gets claimed.

This is a guy who really just needs to sit for 2 years behind Rodgers in ONE offense. I'm not confident he sticks, but I am confident that if he'd been handled properly, he'd be a very good backup QB and possibly a good starter(good closer to Winston/Mariotta than Matty Ryan....etc...

 

 

Incidentally, has ANYONE heard anything about Nick Perry? I saw in the comments section in the Green Bay Gazette maybe? Not positive, but it was talking about the potential of bringing Nick Perry back this year for the vet minimum. And of course, half the fans lose their minds, but if you could get him for the veteran minimum, and he could come in and rotate with the guys we've got their now?

 

That would make us so much more dangerous. Have him play 20-25 snaps instead of 75. He's one of the best in the NFL at setting the edge and he can get to the QB. it seems entirely unrealistic. I've never heard of a situation like this...coming back in the same year. But maybe Perry's just real about it and knows they had to cut him? Any chance??

 

I'm curious if anyone would be opposed. He wouldn't play ahead of Gary....I'm not seeing a downside. They're top-heavy at OLB'er, they only have 4 guys now with Gilbert traded. Perry is undisputedly a good player when healthy.

 

I’ll politely disagree on Kizer’s value. I’m not delusional, but as I’ve stated before - I believe his current floor is a waiver claim. He’s young, healthy, athletic, and smart. Certainly worth a flier as a QB3 / reclamation project. I guess we’ll find out his value soon enough.

 

And I have no concerns about signing Perry on a minimum contract. I’d hate for him to take a roster spot from a promising young player, but injuries happen and I could see him being a good addition at that price.

[PeaveyFury]

Anyone think Payton Lynch, who was waived by Seattle, might be worth a look as backup QB? His star has flamed out mightily since the 2016 draft, but he had a nice camp in Seattle.

 

Also didn't realize that Perry hadn't been signed at this point. I'd have thought someone would have grabbed him for the minimum at the very least. It suggests that he's not healthy, obviously.

[wildcat83]

LeSean McCoy cut by Buffalo. I haven’t seen anything on him in the pre season to know what he’s got left in the tank or what he’d demand salary wise, but if he could be a 3rd down back he could still be useful.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

LeSean McCoy cut by Buffalo. I haven’t seen anything on him in the pre season to know what he’s got left in the tank or what he’d demand salary wise, but if he could be a 3rd down back he could still be useful.

 

McCoy is washed. He doesn't offer anything at this point that Jamal Williams doesn't.

[nodakfan17]

The Packers go with Crosby.

[nodakfan17]

J’Mon Moore will apparently be released - is that even a mild surprise?

[nodakfan17]

Justin McCray is another roster casualty. They must feel good about their interior offensive line depth.

[lcbj68c]

Kizer cut. About time. Glad to see Gute' is comfortable with not letting mistakes linger.

[patrickgpe]

Brian hoyer was released today, I’d take him over what the packers have now.

 

Edit- hogan cut by broncos another preferred option imo.

 

I like Boyle but I’d feel better if a vet was 2 and Boyle was 3.

 

Also odd that Wilkins hasn’t been cut yet, especially before kizer.

[RollieTime]

Brian hoyer was released today, I’d take him over what the packers have now.

 

Hoyer is a competent game manager that I would definitely like to see the Packers explore bringing in to backup Rodgers. If he ended up starting a few games for us, he would at least give the team a chance to win each week.

[nodakfan17]

Also odd that Wilkins hasn’t been cut yet, especially before kizer.

He very well may have been released already. All of the roster news thus far has been from players / agents willingly sharing. I wouldn’t read into it just yet.

[nodakfan17]

Brian hoyer was released today, I’d take him over what the packers have now.

 

Hoyer is a competent game manager that I would definitely like to see the Packers explore bringing in to backup Rodgers. If he ended up starting a few games for us, he would at least give the team a chance to win each week.

You can put me on the Hoyer for QB2 train too.

[wildcat83]

We are getting close to 3:00 pm with a lot of names to come out yet.

[patrickgpe]

I heard hoyer linked to colts and Broncos, nothing about Green Bay yet