2019 Green Bay Packers Season Thread

[CheezWizHed]

I've been thinking that Martinez wasn't worth bringing back, despite our dearth of MLB talent. But then he has a first half like yesterday which is the Martinez we need to have on our defense. Then he returned to form second half (passive, first contact 3-4 yards downfield, late in coverage).

 

We need more first half Martinez if we want to have a playoff caliber defense.

[wildcat83]

I could care less about the Pro Bowl, but 11-3 with only 2 representatives is pretty rough. I thought Smith, Smith, Alexander, and Crosby would all have a shot.

 

I'm sure they'll get some alternates, but no love in the initial selections.

[LouisEly]

I could care less about the Pro Bowl, but 11-3 with only 2 representatives is pretty rough. I thought Smith, Smith, Alexander, and Crosby would all have a shot.

 

I'm sure they'll get some alternates, but no love in the initial selections.

If Barrett and Jones deserve to get in over the Smiths because they have more sacks, then the Smiths deserve to get in before Khalil Mack.

[nodakfan17]

I could care less about the Pro Bowl, but 11-3 with only 2 representatives is pretty rough. I thought Smith, Smith, Alexander, and Crosby would all have a shot.

 

I'm sure they'll get some alternates, but no love in the initial selections.

I feel bad for Crosby. I thought it was his year. Although since the Packers have been so efficient in the red zone, he’s only had 17 attempts (going 16-17). Conversesly, Will Lutz is 31-35.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

A lot of top teams only had 2-3 guys. The Bears had more than the Packers. It's always dumb. Especially since the two the Packers had shouldn't be there. One of DBak's worst seasons, although I don't really study LT play. And Rodgers is no way a top 3 QB in the NFC this year. Just off the top of my head, Cousins, Prescott, Wentz have all been better. But you get in on pedigree, that's always been the case. The last time I looked it up, Winston had a higher QBR despite throwing like 20 picks. He's just been totally unimpressive this year. To me the only guys that warranted it from GB didn't get picked, either one of the Smiths or both would have been reasonable.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

A lot of top teams only had 2-3 guys. The Bears had more than the Packers. It's always dumb. Especially since the two the Packers had shouldn't be there. One of DBak's worst seasons, although I don't really study LT play. And Rodgers is no way a top 3 QB in the NFC this year. Just off the top of my head, Cousins, Prescott, Wentz have all been better. But you get in on pedigree, that's always been the case. The last time I looked it up, Winston had a higher QBR despite throwing like 20 picks. He's just been totally unimpressive this year. To me the only guys that warranted it from GB didn't get picked, either one of the Smiths or both would have been reasonable.

 

If it were truly based on who has played the best this year, Aaron Jones should have been a consideration (although he's had a few stinkers, too), and Elgton Jenkins as well. Jenkins has been a revelation in the running game. Nice to see the Packers finally hit on a high-round O-lineman.

 

This is sort of a reflection on a team that appears to be better than the sum of its parts.

[pacopete4]

Just name an all-pro team and stop with the stupid pro bowl all together. It's not even a football game. But I suppose you could say the same thing about what we all watch every Sunday.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Jones is a great playmaker and a huge part of what the Packers do both running and in the passing game, but you can't really place him above any of the three guys they picked. I think each of those three guys is the kind of back that can really take over a game even when his team is overmatched, but Jones isn't. When the blocking breaks down he runs 10 times for 25 yards. He fits into the offense well but all three of those guys are really dynamic players.

[stoutdude04]

Just name an all-pro team and stop with the stupid pro bowl all together. It's not even a football game. But I suppose you could say the same thing about what we all watch every Sunday.

 

I think the skills competitions are more entertaining than the game itself.

[nodakfan17]

A lot of top teams only had 2-3 guys. The Bears had more than the Packers. It's always dumb. Especially since the two the Packers had shouldn't be there. One of DBak's worst seasons, although I don't really study LT play. And Rodgers is no way a top 3 QB in the NFC this year. Just off the top of my head, Cousins, Prescott, Wentz have all been better. But you get in on pedigree, that's always been the case. The last time I looked it up, Winston had a higher QBR despite throwing like 20 picks. He's just been totally unimpressive this year. To me the only guys that warranted it from GB didn't get picked, either one of the Smiths or both would have been reasonable.

 

C’mom - you’d take Dak over Aaron Rodgers?

 

He has the best offensive line in football, Zeke Elliot as his safety blanket, and a better pair of wide receivers in Cooper and Cobb ... and is still only 7-7. Plus, in addition to the better record, Rodgers also has a better passer rating.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

This year, for the Pro Bowl? Yes, it's not close. Rodgers has a top 10 OL this season. He has Aaron Jones and Adams. Yes the WR group is thin after him, but there is plenty that looks diminished about Rodgers to think he's not the guy he used to be.

 

Rodgers has a better passer rating by 1 point and trails in QBR and yards by 20 and 1000. The Pro Bowl is supposed to be this year's achievements, not your career. Of course it never is that. Favre got named to the game in several flat-out poor seasons. Rodgers isn't there yet, but no, he's not a top 3 QB in the NFC this season.

 

We're talking about the Pro Bowl, not the MVP. The rest of the roster shouldn't be relevant. Rodgers look about as magical as Favre did at this point. Still good, and far less turnover prone, but clearly someone that needs quality support everywhere and can't take over games by himself.

[OldHeidelberg]

I don't even pay attention to it anymore but if you had asked me who I thought would be pro bowlers I would have said Rodgers and ZSmith. In these days of fantasy football driven stats I wouldn't get too hung up on numbers for QB's, Rodgers healthy and on an 11-3 team is a near lock, he is one of the biggest stars in the league and has earned it. ZSmith has been a wrecking ball all season and has the stats, not sure who beat him out but they don't deserve it.

[nodakfan17]

What’s the tie-breaker situation if the Packers and Saints both finish 12-4, assuming the Packers lose to the Vikings and the Saints lose to the Titans? I know the Packers have held a tie-breaker on the basis of their better NFC record, but a Saints loss today to an AFC opponent (and subsequent GB loss on MNF) would put them on even footing again.

 

Edit: After a little research, I think the Saints would get the bye on the basis of a better strength of victory (currently 0.475 vs. 0.432).

[nodakfan17]

A lot of top teams only had 2-3 guys. The Bears had more than the Packers. It's always dumb. Especially since the two the Packers had shouldn't be there. One of DBak's worst seasons, although I don't really study LT play. And Rodgers is no way a top 3 QB in the NFC this year. Just off the top of my head, Cousins, Prescott, Wentz have all been better. But you get in on pedigree, that's always been the case. The last time I looked it up, Winston had a higher QBR despite throwing like 20 picks. He's just been totally unimpressive this year. To me the only guys that warranted it from GB didn't get picked, either one of the Smiths or both would have been reasonable.

 

C’mom - you’d take Dak over Aaron Rodgers?

 

He has the best offensive line in football, Zeke Elliot as his safety blanket, and a better pair of wide receivers in Cooper and Cobb ... and is still only 7-7. Plus, in addition to the better record, Rodgers also has a better passer rating.

 

Would you still take Dak and Cousins over Rodgers?

[adambr2]

There was a lot of good from tonight but Aaron Rodgers was not one of them.

[adambr2]

2020 opponents

 

@Bears

Bears

@Vikings

Vikings

@Lions

Lions

Titans

Jaguars

Colts

Texans

Saints

Bucs

Panthers

Falcons

Eagles (Cowboys instead if Cowboys win East)

49ers/Seahawks division winner

[nodakfan17]

I hope the schedule maker has a sense of humor and makes the Jaguars come to Green Bay in December next year after making the Packers playing at Jacksonville in Week 1 of 2016.

[PinaMadness]

2020 opponents

 

@Bears

Bears

@Vikings

Vikings

@Lions

Lions

Titans

Jaguars

Colts

Texans

Saints

Bucs

Panthers

Falcons

Eagles (Cowboys instead if Cowboys win East)

49ers/Seahawks division winner

If memory serves the home games are Jags, Titans, Falcons, Panthers and NFCE winner and the road games are Colts, Texans, Saints, Bucs and NFCW winner.

[Zad Fnark]

I hope the schedule maker has a sense of humor and makes the Jaguars come to Green Bay in December next year after making the Packers playing at Jacksonville in Week 1 of 2016.

 

I was actually at one of those about 15 years ago. Jax was here and it was about -5 at game time. GB got beat.

[young guns]

2020 opponents

 

@Bears

Bears

@Vikings

Vikings

@Lions

Lions

Titans

Jaguars

Colts

Texans

Saints

Bucs

Panthers

Falcons

Eagles (Cowboys instead if Cowboys win East)

49ers/Seahawks division winner

If memory serves the home games are Jags, Titans, Falcons, Panthers and NFCE winner and the road games are Colts, Texans, Saints, Bucs and NFCW winner.

Is there something that determines home and away, or was this posted somewhere?

[PinaMadness]

2020 opponents

 

@Bears

Bears

@Vikings

Vikings

@Lions

Lions

Titans

Jaguars

Colts

Texans

Saints

Bucs

Panthers

Falcons

Eagles (Cowboys instead if Cowboys win East)

49ers/Seahawks division winner

If memory serves the home games are Jags, Titans, Falcons, Panthers and NFCE winner and the road games are Colts, Texans, Saints, Bucs and NFCW winner.

Is there something that determines home and away, or was this posted somewhere?

There's a scheduling formula that the NFL has been using since 2001. 2020 is our year to play the NFCS and AFCS and alternate home and away games between those teams, so for instance, since we played Carolina on the road the last time we played the entire NFCS, we get them at home this time around. We played Jacksonville and Tennessee on the road last time we played them so we get them at home this time, and so on.

 

I'm not sure about the at large matchups, but I believe since we played our at large game against the Niners on the road this year, we play our 2020 at large game against the NFCW on the road again. Then after we play the NFCW in 2021 we play our 2022 and 2023 at large games against against the NFCW at home.

[burnzy24]

I hope the schedule maker has a sense of humor and makes the Jaguars come to Green Bay in December next year after making the Packers playing at Jacksonville in Week 1 of 2016.

 

I was actually at one of those about 15 years ago. Jax was here and it was about -5 at game time. GB got beat.

 

I was there too. That was the game Robert Ferguson got clotheslined.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

A lot of top teams only had 2-3 guys. The Bears had more than the Packers. It's always dumb. Especially since the two the Packers had shouldn't be there. One of DBak's worst seasons, although I don't really study LT play. And Rodgers is no way a top 3 QB in the NFC this year. Just off the top of my head, Cousins, Prescott, Wentz have all been better. But you get in on pedigree, that's always been the case. The last time I looked it up, Winston had a higher QBR despite throwing like 20 picks. He's just been totally unimpressive this year. To me the only guys that warranted it from GB didn't get picked, either one of the Smiths or both would have been reasonable.

 

C’mom - you’d take Dak over Aaron Rodgers?

 

He has the best offensive line in football, Zeke Elliot as his safety blanket, and a better pair of wide receivers in Cooper and Cobb ... and is still only 7-7. Plus, in addition to the better record, Rodgers also has a better passer rating.

 

Would you still take Dak and Cousins over Rodgers?

 

Yes? Lol. What a weird post.

 

We're talking about the 2019 pro bowl here, not Canton. Rodgers has not been great this year.

[young guns]

There's a scheduling formula that the NFL has been using since 2001. 2020 is our year to play the NFCS and AFCS and alternate home and away games between those teams, so for instance, since we played Carolina on the road the last time we played the entire NFCS, we get them at home this time around. We played Jacksonville and Tennessee on the road last time we played them so we get them at home this time, and so on.

 

I'm not sure about the at large matchups, but I believe since we played our at large game against the Niners on the road this year, we play our 2020 at large game against the NFCW on the road again. Then after we play the NFCW in 2021 we play our 2022 and 2023 at large games against against the NFCW at home.

That part I knew, I just wasn't sure what determines home and away. As I was thinking about it, it would make sense to alternate, but the 2 wild card teams could theoretically cause a year where your last game against an entire division was on the road or home, and obviously that wouldn't work.

[True Blue Brew Crew]

Yeah I don't think the home and away alternates. I believe that's randomly set once the opponents are known.