2019 Green Bay Packers Season Thread

[yourout]

Matthews just got called for another bogus roughing penalty. Officiating is so inconsistent that it is hard to watch.

 

When officials go to Seattle they seem to forget they are suppose to be neutral.

[yourout]

There is no team in the NFL with a bigger horseshoe shoved up their backside then Seattle.

[HiAndTight]

I said it last night, but you could probably find a penalty on almost any play. For all the off the ball/play penalties they call think about how many away from the ball/play they miss.

 

I think they overreacted to that play last year. In all reality there really wasn't that big of an outcry over it. To instill a rule that allows you to challenge a play, but only 'blatant' ones will be overturned is pretty much creating a disaster. That is like if MLB would have started challenges at 1B, but is had to be by a complete step (blatant). If you are going to go through the time of allowing challenges you gotta take the good with the bad. Big or small mistake you should be overturning it. Why go to the monitor, know it is a PI, but because it is moderate we will keep the call on the field...it wasn't excessive.

 

I mean come on NFL. When will you learn?

 

I do not agree with either of these statements. It decided who was going to the Super Bowl. Or at least played a large role in helping the Rams. And the outcry was enormous.

That is like if MLB would have started challenges at 1B, but is had to be by a complete step (blatant).

 

I honestly can't remember more of an outcry over a missed call in the NFL. And I don't think it's like challenging a play at 1st at all. One is subjective, one is objective. If your foot touches the base before the ball hits your glove, your safe. Otherwise, you're out.

 

But the NFL does always get it wrong. The only solution I can see is having a CFB like replay system for "egregious calls." Add that to turnovers and scoring plays, let the booth handle those. Let the coaches challenge what they've been challenging. The rule apparently wasn't intended for the Dalvin Cook OPI or the DPI on MVS this past week.

 

There's an old saying, the US gets it right after they exhaust every other option? Kinda looks like that's been the NFL's MO the past few years.

 

But you're right, there is a penalty on pretty much every play and when you look at how the Refs call it in real time, they're pretty damn impressive. What makes what's going on now so frustrating is they get a change to go back and watch it again and they're still getting it wrong.

[HiAndTight]

Made my annual trip to Lambeau for the Eagles game. Not much to add to the ridiculous pass interference discussion. Officiating in the NFL is the worst of any pro sport.

 

I have a suggestion for the Packers regarding the fan experience. Can they please, please get rid of that juvenile PA cheerleader crap? I can't stand a guy insulting my football intelligence by screaming at me to get loud. Fans know when to get loud. They don't need some idiot who sounds like he's on meth telling them to get loud. Give me the down and distance only. That would make the game so much more enjoyable.

 

 

They have to try something in GB. I watched the Seattle game and just felt jealous. They have so much more of a HFA because of how crazy their crowd is. Their defense can basically count on 15-20 offense related penalty yards for false starts or delay of games because whenever they have any momentum, they just go nuts. With the Packers....not so much.

 

But you're right. It's not like because people just don't know when a big play is coming up. Like I've said before, it's because we've got an older fan base.

[HiAndTight]

Matthews just got called for another bogus roughing penalty. Officiating is so inconsistent that it is hard to watch.

 

 

 

It was particularly bad because Wilson knows he's going to get that call if Matthews touches him....so he can wait until the final moment to release the ball.

 

I wonder what the hell Steve Young and Troy Aikman are thinking right now. Does anyone remember the shots they took that ended their respective careers? They were just getting lit up like Sean Taylor hit that Punter in the Pro-Bowl repeatedly. Now Matthews comes in, he pulls up as much as he can and he pulls his head back to make ABSOLUTELY certain that he doesn't possibly make any incidental contact to the helmet and.....still the yellow flag gets thrown.

 

 

I guess it's better than seeing a guy like Steve Young's career ending prematurely, but...wow. You might as well make those reviewable as well.

[PeaveyFury]

They have to try something in GB. I watched the Seattle game and just felt jealous. They have so much more of a HFA because of how crazy their crowd is. Their defense can basically count on 15-20 offense related penalty yards for false starts or delay of games because whenever they have any momentum, they just go nuts. With the Packers....not so much.

 

But you're right. It's not like because people just don't know when a big play is coming up. Like I've said before, it's because we've got an older fan base.

 

I guess I'm surprised by this feeling. I've gone to both Packer and Badger games for years, and I've long felt that the atmosphere at Packer games is actually better. Maybe that has changed some over the past few seasons where they haven't lived up to expectations, though. I think there are noticably more visiting fans that make the trip and find tickets.

 

I do wonder if they'll end up cracking down on perpetual sellers at some point. It seems very unfair to have a hundred-some thousand people waiting for tickets, while some guy sells his grandfathers old tickets that he inherited every year with no intention of going himself.

[HiAndTight]

They have to try something in GB. I watched the Seattle game and just felt jealous. They have so much more of a HFA because of how crazy their crowd is. Their defense can basically count on 15-20 offense related penalty yards for false starts or delay of games because whenever they have any momentum, they just go nuts. With the Packers....not so much.

 

But you're right. It's not like because people just don't know when a big play is coming up. Like I've said before, it's because we've got an older fan base.

 

I guess I'm surprised by this feeling. I've gone to both Packer and Badger games for years, and I've long felt that the atmosphere at Packer games is actually better. Maybe that has changed some over the past few seasons where they haven't lived up to expectations, though. I think there are noticably more visiting fans that make the trip and find tickets.

 

I do wonder if they'll end up cracking down on perpetual sellers at some point. It seems very unfair to have a hundred-some thousand people waiting for tickets, while some guy sells his grandfathers old tickets that he inherited every year with no intention of going himself.

 

 

Meh, maybe just differences of opinion or particular experiances I remember watching the Packers play Philly in like...I don't know, maybe it was 2010 when they lost to them at home and it was a must win game(almost) to get into the playoffs and they lost a close game and I remember thinking how quiet the crowd was then given some of the situations.

 

I usually didn't really go to many of the Kent State type games, but when we played Michigan or Ohio State and the game was competitive, Camp Randall was rocking. Heck, even in the lower profile games it was nuts.

 

But Camp Randall also wasn't built to try and make it louder. The Packers literally did that when they completed all their renovations closing both sides of the field.

 

But I've been to most Packers playoff home games in the past 20+ years and it just never gets to that ridiculous level of loud it gets to in Seattle or KC or even Chicago.

[nodakfan17]

The Packers are playing the Lions coming off their bye. I don’t love that. I think the extra day helps nullify that advantage.

[tmwiese55]

Detroit is a solid team and shouldn't be considered an easy W. But, get that and Oakland and you're at 6-1. Almost a lock for the playoffs at that point.

[wildcat83]

I just saw Oren Burks name in the box score. I was in and out of the house pretty much the whole game, but honestly never noticed him on the field. Anyone have any feedback on how he looked?

[young guns]

I knew he was active but never heard his name.

[homer]

I just saw Oren Burks name in the box score. I was in and out of the house pretty much the whole game, but honestly never noticed him on the field. Anyone have any feedback on how he looked?

 

I didn't notice him. I doubt he played that many snaps.

[HiAndTight]

I just saw Oren Burks name in the box score. I was in and out of the house pretty much the whole game, but honestly never noticed him on the field. Anyone have any feedback on how he looked?

 

 

I saw his first snap. I was pretty surprised to see him to be honest. I want to say it was maybe the 3rd quarter that he got on the field on defense? He shot the gap and then reached out with his right arm and made a tackle. He got to the hole pretty quickly and made a pretty solid tackle.

 

Other than that, there wasn't really much to see. Just seeing him reach back and make that play with that arm though should suggest the injury is pretty much healed.

[nodakfan17]

The game at SF is looking a lot more difficult than it did when the schedule first came out.

[HarveysWBs]

The game at SF is looking a lot more difficult than it did when the schedule first came out.

 

Cleveland’s offensive line is a wet paper sack. SF is good, but I’m cautiously optimistic that they aren’t *that* good. And, suffice it to say, Rodgers>Mayfield.

[bjkrautk]

I just saw Oren Burks name in the box score. I was in and out of the house pretty much the whole game, but honestly never noticed him on the field. Anyone have any feedback on how he looked?

 

I didn't notice him. I doubt he played that many snaps.

 

Acme Packing Co. has Burks playing 11 snaps on defense last game. If memory serves, Goodson was being evaluated for a concussion after a special teams play, so I would assume the snaps came then.

 

I do remember the broadcast pointing out that he was in the game, but I didn't see any stand-out plays from Burks during that time. That he played in the game at all validates the Packers' decision to leave him on the roster (rather than put him on IR with a return designation).

[brewcrewdue80]

Detroit is a solid team and shouldn't be considered an easy W. But, get that and Oakland and you're at 6-1. Almost a lock for the playoffs at that point.

 

It stands within reason that GB will face 500 or better in all but 1 game this season. 6-1 wouldnt guarantee a postseason.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Not likely. They play the Giants and Redskins and a whole bunch of 3-2 teams. I doubt the entire division is above .500 at year's end.

 

If they hit 6-1 and don't make the playoffs something went very very wrong. Like a collarbone.

[tmwiese55]

The logic is that if you're at 6-1 you can go 3-6 to end and still have a shot. merely going 4-5 and you're almost for sure in. Barring a Rodgers injury you're a near lock. OF course anything can happen, but barring something really really bad you should be set. Goes without saying though that if you back into the playoffs like that it doesn't instill much hope anyway. Essentially, I'm just saying you'll be in a really good position and at that point turn your focus to getting the bye.

[PinaMadness]

The penalty challenge rule has officially become a complete disaster/joke. Yesterday pretty much summed it up. Call happens, Mr.Expert chimes in saying it is textbook like the recent video they were all shown, and it is 100% a penalty that should be called. Referee comes back in "Call Stands". Another challenge happens and basically the same is said that is definitely a penalty they should be have been called...but since the one before wasn't called this one won't be. The cherry on the top was the last play. The entire purpose of the rule was because of a late miss call. So in real time the INT play looks like it could have been a missed penalty (lots of contact). Do they go to make sure it was indeed a clean play? No, of course not.

 

They aren't even going to use this review rule inside 2 minutes...at least very very rarely. If Rodgers is marching down the field, no timeouts, and 50 seconds left do you think they are going to stop the game to go check a offensive PI? Yah right...so what is the point? The challenge is being used for all the wrong reasons and is very unlikely to be used for its intention in the specific time it becomes so important.

It doesn't matter which sport it is. Referees/umpires is a good ol' boy fraternity that will have each other's backs. Sports just needs to get rid of instant replay altogether.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Chandon Sullivan is looking like he could be a 2019 Sam Shields-type acquisition. Comes out of nowhere and completely changes the kinds of defenses they can run. Packers don't win the Super Bowl without Shields, just a huge part of what Capers was able to call that season.

[adambr2]

But Jones said Wednesday on "The Pat McAfee Show" that he was told immediately afterward not to wave good-bye to defenders. Asked by McAfee when and how that conversation went down, Jones said:

 

"Just running to the sidelines, just, 'Hey, did you know you could get flagged for that? That's taunting.' And I'm like, 'Coach, I was kinda in the zone, I apologize. I didn't realize I waved.' He was like, 'No, that's fine, just don't let it happen again. Because you could get fined and that could've cost you a touchdown, they could've brought it back'. And I don't want that to happen so I'm like, 'All right, Coach, thank you.'"

 

Sounds like the Packer Punks are totally running the asylum and have no respect for Coach Lafleur.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Lol. Coach is wrong though. That one would go on the kickoff

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Lol. Coach is wrong though. That one would go on the kickoff

 

It was before he scored. I think they could have thrown it for unsportsmanlike, given them a 15-yard penalty and made them replay the down. It would have been different had he already scored.

[adambr2]

Lol. Coach is wrong though. That one would go on the kickoff

 

I thought that they *can* bring back a touchdown if taunting occurs before the endzone. Almost never happens but l thought I remember examples of it occurring. I'll have to try to look that up.