2019 Green Bay Packers Season Thread

[nodakfan17]

Cardinals Lions tie. This is the consequence of a combination of the field goal answer opportunity rule and reducing OT to 10 minutes, and it will happen more.

 

I don’t mind ties. They make the standings a little cleaner.

[lcbj68c]

Cardinals Lions tie. This is the consequence of a combination of the field goal answer opportunity rule and reducing OT to 10 minutes, and it will happen more.

 

Side note, why in the world didn't the Cardinals bring the house on the last play? There were 5 seconds left and the Lions decided to go for it. If you can get to Stafford in 4 seconds you win.

 

On a plane, so didn't see what Lions did. Won't get to Stafford in 4 seconds though. Just chucks it high up into the air and out of bounds and the clock is on :00 before the ball hits the ground.

[adambr2]

Cardinals Lions tie. This is the consequence of a combination of the field goal answer opportunity rule and reducing OT to 10 minutes, and it will happen more.

 

Side note, why in the world didn't the Cardinals bring the house on the last play? There were 5 seconds left and the Lions decided to go for it. If you can get to Stafford in 4 seconds you win.

 

On a plane, so didn't see what Lions did. Won't get to Stafford in 4 seconds though. Just chucks it high up into the air and out of bounds and the clock is on :00 before the ball hits the ground.

 

Probably. But it's still worth a try. If he just throws it up and they call grounding the Cardinals get an untimes down to kick the game winning FG.

[yourout]

I hate to say it but New England with Brown if he buys in might give Miami a run for the perfect season.

[Jenkins5]

I hate to say it but New England with Brown if he buys in might give Miami a run for the perfect season.

 

Well in Super Bowl, hopefully the team they face gets David Tyree out of retirement to put a stop to that.

 

Patriots 16-0 & Dolphins 0-16 in same division would be fun to see! Their schedule is not very tough. Jets & Bills won’t compete with them this year. Think both are moving in right direction but not there yet. The AFC north teams may offer a little challenge. Ravens mainly. Browns after today... no. Eagles & Dallas should be good games. Really though Chiefs are biggest threat. Offense is built for shootout. That will be a great game to watch!

[HiAndTight]

Think Bill & Tom are only two in the league capable of taking on AB right now. If he can’t even shape him up there with all his nonsense, no team can. Patriots have been down this road multiple times with “cancer” “diva” and “troubled” players. It usually goes well for them.

 

AB works hard, is an elite player, and makes any offense better so Pats with him & Gordon.... their offense could be unbelievable if both workout. If he pulls anything dumb though, he will be out the door quick. They don’t tolerate nonsense.

 

 

I know they took on Moss...and that ended badly like it did everywhere else. But can't someone refresh my memory. I don't recall them taking on all these team cancers. I'm not disputing it, I'm just trying to think. They take chances on guys like Gordon for example, but he's not a cancer, he's just a guy with a addiction problem.

 

They took risks on other guys like Peters from NeBraska and then Haynesworth. But we tried to trade for Moss(and AB for that matter) and we signed guys with serious issues(Lyrela).

 

Also remember that while Moss was probably the key to the Patriots juggernaut, they did end up trading him 2 years later just 4 games into the season.

 

 

The Pats have definitely given a lot of guys a second chance, but I'm not sure it's worked out with those players as well as the myth has gone.

 

I hate to say it but New England with Brown if he buys in might give Miami a run for the perfect season.

 

 

The thing that'll make them really dangerous is if Gordon puts together a whole season. He may actually be the more talented of the two players....as crazy as that may be.

 

 

This just all seems to fantastical. Brown is a hyper competitive player and his effort and desire has never really been questioned. He wanted his release from the Steelers, they instead traded him for a 3rd and a 5th and he forced his way out with the help of Mike Mayock. I know Al Davis accused the Pats of tampering when it came to Randy Moss...not sure about that, but there certainly appears to be something suspect here.

[HiAndTight]

Cardinals Lions tie. This is the consequence of a combination of the field goal answer opportunity rule and reducing OT to 10 minutes, and it will happen more.

 

Side note, why in the world didn't the Cardinals bring the house on the last play? There were 5 seconds left and the Lions decided to go for it. If you can get to Stafford in 4 seconds you win.

 

On a plane, so didn't see what Lions did. Won't get to Stafford in 4 seconds though. Just chucks it high up into the air and out of bounds and the clock is on :00 before the ball hits the ground.

 

Probably. But it's still worth a try. If he just throws it up and they call grounding the Cardinals get an untimes down to kick the game winning FG.

 

 

You just have someone run a go route. He throws it as far as he can but out of bounds and you don't get a grounding and the time runs out. But it would have been worth it.

[HiAndTight]

He probably should have been fired after blowing a 28-3 lead in the Super Bowl.

 

Quinn couldn't win there. Had the Falcons just gone to running the ball, trying to chew up the clock, well, then when Brady brought them back, people would have gotten on him for being too conservative and intervening with one of the better offensive coaches in football who got them out to that lead.

 

It's like the Packers-Seahawks game. So many little things went wrong. It's 1st and 10 with 8 minutes left in the 3rd after pass down to the 23...Ryan gets sacked for a loss of 12 or whatever, Matthews gets hit with a holding call, they're out of FG range. That's on Shanahan. Just run the ball. If you don't get the 1st down, you've at least chewed up 3 minutes and it's 31-3.

 

To me, Shanahan was more to blame for that. The Falcons OL was struggling vs the Pats and they were running the ball well early, but never really went back to it, they did not try to run the ball between the tackles.

 

Quinn is a good Defensive coach, but not many teams are going to be able to hold up playing 100 plays without gassing.

 

 

That Vikings defense looked really good. Especially on the LOS. The new 52 look gives the Vikings some really favorable matchup's with Joseph, Stephen and then Griffen and Hunter on the edge. It's not as good as the Bears, but when you bring up Barr, it puts a lot of pressure on the QB. And with a team with a new offense that's a long way from hitting their stride, you've gotta make those hot reeds and get rid of the ball as soon as possible.

 

 

A 2-0 start though...if they can beat the Vikings. That gives you two wins over the two main competitors in the division and you're a quarter of the way through that brutal 1st half schedule. OL has to play well and please LeFleur, give Jenkins the start at LG over Taylor. He's clearly better than Lane Taylor..and he's more physical. Unless they're worried about him picking up stunts or blitzes...which the Vikings do a lot, he needs to be out there.

[Outlander]

On a plane, so didn't see what Lions did. Won't get to Stafford in 4 seconds though. Just chucks it high up into the air and out of bounds and the clock is on :00 before the ball hits the ground.

 

Probably. But it's still worth a try. If he just throws it up and they call grounding the Cardinals get an untimes down to kick the game winning FG.

 

I remember a couple of years ago when the Ravens held everybody at the end of the game to just run out the clock but the game wasn't extended because a foul by the offense does not extend play. Not sure the Lions would get an untimed down.

[PeaveyFury]

On a plane, so didn't see what Lions did. Won't get to Stafford in 4 seconds though. Just chucks it high up into the air and out of bounds and the clock is on :00 before the ball hits the ground.

 

Probably. But it's still worth a try. If he just throws it up and they call grounding the Cardinals get an untimes down to kick the game winning FG.

 

I remember a couple of years ago when the Ravens held everybody at the end of the game to just run out the clock but the game wasn't extended because a foul by the offense does not extend play. Not sure the Lions would get an untimed down.

 

I believe the league changed that rule specifically because of that game, actually.

[young guns]

I had Watson and fairbairn. That td and extra point part 2 gave me a .14 point lead. My opponent has lutz I am so mad at that "defense" Houston played, especially that last play.

[HiAndTight]

 

I remember a couple of years ago when the Ravens held everybody at the end of the game to just run out the clock but the game wasn't extended because a foul by the offense does not extend play. Not sure the Lions would get an untimed down.

 

It also happened in the NCAA. There was an Okie St-Central Michigan game...a year when it looked like the Cowboys might actually be a playoff team. I think they went into the B12 title game with just the one loss to Central Michigan and then lost a pretty close game to Oklahoma.

 

Anyway, with 4 seconds left at midfield up by 3, Okie State just chucked the ball. The refs gave the ball back to Central Michigan, they threw a pass...did the laterals, I don't really remember how, but they scored and won 30-27. IIRC, the refs were suspended for a couple games.

 

I believe the league changed that rule specifically because of that game, actually.

 

 

They did. The Ravens did it, but apparently so to did the 49'ers. Apparently now, in that Baltimore game, if there were 11 seconds left like there was in that game and they committed multiple penalties, it's a loss of down, if it resulted in a turnover on downs, they'd reset the game clock, enforce a 15 yard penalty and in that case the Bengals would have gotten the ball with 11 seconds left and they'd have the ball at the Ravens 10 or so.

[homer]

Uh, Antonio Brown...

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Uh, Antonio Brown...

 

The response form his lawyer reads all kinds of shady.

[MrTPlush]

The timing is way too convenient...I would like to see the texts where he bragged about it. Pretty lofty accusations.

[homer]

The timing is way too convenient...I would like to see the texts where he bragged about it. Pretty lofty accusations.

 

Texts (emails?) are out there on the interwebs now.

[MrTPlush]

The timing is way too convenient...I would like to see the texts where he bragged about it. Pretty lofty accusations.

 

Texts (emails?) are out there on the interwebs now.

 

As in I’d like to see her provide that information in her lawsuit. I don’t care to literally see them myself...

 

I mean these are some serious allegations, not your typical run of the mill sexual assault cases you see these days.

[homer]

The timing is way too convenient...I would like to see the texts where he bragged about it. Pretty lofty accusations.

 

Texts (emails?) are out there on the interwebs now.

 

As in I’d like to see her provide that information in her lawsuit. I don’t care to literally see them myself...

 

I mean these are some serious allegations, not your typical run of the mill sexual assault cases you see these days.

 

I am sure they can digitally trace them to prove if he sent the texts or emails.

[MrTPlush]

I am sure they can digitally trace them to prove if he sent the texts or emails.

 

I don’t think they can trace what was actually sent though...just that the exchange happened. Which make it pretty useless...especially so when they texted normally (for a long time) as is. Not like Brown is claiming to not know her.

[Jenkins5]

Uh, Antonio Brown...

 

The response form his lawyer reads all kinds of shady.

 

Seems real shady. I’ve never been sexually assaulted but unless she formed Stockholm Syndrome.... I don’t think driving state lines to come visit, asking for tickets from, and posting pictures with the one who had violated you all after the fact. Lawyers can make things seem false for sure and I haven’t read her side but as shady sounding as some Madison girls as of right now.

 

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[homer]

Uh, Antonio Brown...

 

The response form his lawyer reads all kinds of shady.

 

Seems real shady. I’ve never been sexually assaulted but unless she formed Stockholm Syndrome.... I don’t think driving state lines to come visit, asking for tickets from, and posting pictures with the one who had violated you all after the fact. Lawyers can make things seem false for sure and I haven’t read her side but as shady sounding as some Madison girls as of right now.

 

 

You should have read her side before posting.

 

Let's keep everyone's opinions on society out of this.

[MrTPlush]

So I am reading this correctly that the female is suing him and has not (yet) filed criminal charges? So she wants money and no criminal charges?

 

Maybe I’m not reading it right...but that is my understanding.

[Jenkins5]

Went back and read her side of story as well of the claims. I usually do better job of that. That is my bad. Again lawyers can spin things to look very different than what they are and he has some good lawyers. The claims alone could get him 4 games suspension while NFL

 

I remember when I was for Packers taking on Brown...wow lol couldn’t have been more wrong. He is just the gift that keeps giving in the worse way.

[Jenkins5]

So I am reading this correctly that the female is suing him and has not (yet) filed criminal charges? So she wants money and no criminal charges?

 

Maybe I’m not reading it right...but that is my understanding.

 

Correct

 

https://haaslawpllc.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/1_Complaint.pdf

 

Section 1 (intro) - 8

 

8. Ms. Taylor brings this action to recover compensatory and punitive damages for the significant harm Brown caused by this brutal and sadistic misconduct.

[Jenkins5]

Now there are reasons for her to go civil over criminal route. Civil for one is brought by the individual and they dictate the direction of case. Also you are not going for guilt vs innocent against defendant but that it is more likely than not of doing it. Also there are not damages except legal fees awarded for criminal case. So really your chances of winning are way higher in civil because all you need is 7-5 decision instead of 12-0 in criminal. Also you can get big payout for damages that you don’t get in criminal. She doesn’t need as much evidence either which helps chances because without reporting very soon after a sexual assault to police, evidence of proving become much more difficult.

 

Criminal must be brought to court by the state so since she never reported to the police that couldn’t happen. She could go now but again more time that passes the more difficult it is to prove 100% guilt. The DA or prosecutor are in control of case & victim is only a witness. You aren’t going for damages, you are going to send that person away for what they did to you.

 

Think OJ Simpson murder case. Won criminal case then got steamrolled with damages in civil trial by family after the jury felt he more than likely did it.