2019 Green Bay Packers Season Thread

[HiAndTight]

What are the odds Antonio Brown is a Patriot in a few weeks?

 

They have very little cap space so unless he takes a huge discount I consider it unlikely.

 

 

They could easily make it happen. With ~11 million in cap room, they could do it easily. But I don't think there's any chance that he is willing to play for what they'd be willing to pay. Do you see them wanting to count on Gordon, Brown and then D. Thomas(for very different reasons)?

 

But he would be just about the perfect fit for the way the Pats play. He's so quick, he can run those underneath routes and he can take the top off.

 

Again, if he's willing to play for 1 year and 8 million, you'll get teams lining up....but he's gonna want to makeup what he "lost."

[adambr2]

I do agree the 'Packer people' narrative is overblown. However I do agree with Joey in that he's probably not a great fit here.

 

My perspective on that is more just that you've got a young rookie head coach here still settling into this job, and forcing him to manage that personality and locker room from the get go is probably not a great fit, especially now that Brown has essentially assured himself of a media bonanza following him anywhere he goes at least for the near future.

 

New England, and Bellichick specifically, is probably in a better situation to manage something like that.

[HiAndTight]

I do agree the 'Packer people' narrative is overblown. However I do agree with Joey in that he's probably not a great fit here.

 

My perspective on that is more just that you've got a young rookie head coach here still settling into this job, and forcing him to manage that personality and locker room from the get go is probably not a great fit, especially now that Brown has essentially assured himself of a media bonanza following him anywhere he goes at least for the near future.

 

New England, and Bellichick specifically, is probably in a better situation to manage something like that.

 

 

I'd place more emphasis on the locker room and the players, but I see that point. If he plays though, it won't be for a while IMO just because I don't think NE pays him what he's going to demand.

 

It just blows my mind that someone would blow that much money because he couldn't control himself. That's something a kid does. That's something a 22 year old does. I can forgive the feet..he was trying to take care of his body. The helmet, don't understand why you can't show up at practice, but ok, I can stretch to understand why that'd be so important. But you got fined. I get it, it was a bit petty by Mayock. He had to prove how tough he was, and listening to Steve Young talk about it, he kinda made me side with Brown on that. But after all that, screaming at the GM, throwing chairs, then requesting to be cut? I could see just about any team willing to take him. I don't see any team willing to pay him though. That'll be the sticking point until he gets desperate enough.

[brooks_quichenick]

 

Adam Schefter

@AdamSchefter

 

Antonio Brown and the Patriots reached agreement on a 1-year deal worth up $15 million that includes a $9 million signing bonus, per source.

4:01 PM · Sep 7, 2019·Twitter for iPhone

 

 

Well that was fast

[adambr2]

I had Brown in a keeper fantasy league since 2013. Late last year I smelled which way the wind was blowing and traded him for JuJu Smith-Schuster.

 

Looking back on those years now and all the drama from the last month I'm kind of blown away that all his time in Pittsburgh passed without incident. Well, without major incident.

 

I'm starting to seriously wonder if he has CTE or something.

[nodakfan17]

 

Adam Schefter

@AdamSchefter

 

Antonio Brown and the Patriots reached agreement on a 1-year deal worth up $15 million that includes a $9 million signing bonus, per source.

4:01 PM · Sep 7, 2019·Twitter for iPhone

 

 

Well that was fast

Unbelievable.

[HiAndTight]

 

Adam Schefter

@AdamSchefter

 

Antonio Brown and the Patriots reached agreement on a 1-year deal worth up $15 million that includes a $9 million signing bonus, per source.

4:01 PM · Sep 7, 2019·Twitter for iPhone

 

 

Well that was fast

 

 

That's amazing to me. His reason for asking for his release was he wasn't playing without his guarantees. He's due to make a lot less than if he'd have just played for the Raiders.

 

 

Well...now the Pats could have the two most talented and unreliable WR'ers in the NFL in Gordon and Brown.

[Fear The Chorizo]

 

Adam Schefter

@AdamSchefter

 

Antonio Brown and the Patriots reached agreement on a 1-year deal worth up $15 million that includes a $9 million signing bonus, per source.

4:01 PM · Sep 7, 2019·Twitter for iPhone

 

 

Well that was fast

Unbelievable.

 

I really think the league needs to take a hard look at this - wasn't new England rumored to be one of the teams interested in trading for brown, but there was no way the Steelers would have dealt him there?

 

Kinda convenient for him to crazy his way out of the raiders to then fall into the Patriots's lap for far less guaranteed money.

[nodakfan17]

Brown will have a good year. The Patriots will win the Super Bowl again. Brown will sign elsewhere next year and ... wait for it ... the Patriots will receive a comp pick for their trouble. Book it.

[HiAndTight]

 

I really think the league needs to take a hard look at this - wasn't new England rumored to be one of the teams interested in trading for brown, but there was no way the Steelers would have dealt him there?

 

Kinda convenient for him to crazy his way out of the raiders to then fall into the Patriots's lap for far less guaranteed money.

 

 

I just think it'd be hard to justify Brown just blowing up his contract and all that guaranteed money. To destroy your reputation like that. Even if he behaves in NE, he's still going to be looked at as a cancer and more people will be licking the Pats shoes.

 

He misbehaved his way out of 30 guaranteed and 50 million dollars in NEW money. He was set to make far more than any other WR'er when you combine the guarantees he got with Pitt and the new money he got with Oakland. I guess 1/15 with 9 guaranteed isn't a bad risk, but still...

[LouisEly]

I do agree the 'Packer people' narrative is overblown. However I do agree with Joey in that he's probably not a great fit here.

 

My perspective on that is more just that you've got a young rookie head coach here still settling into this job, and forcing him to manage that personality and locker room from the get go is probably not a great fit, especially now that Brown has essentially assured himself of a media bonanza following him anywhere he goes at least for the near future.

 

New England, and Bellichick specifically, is probably in a better situation to manage something like that.

Belichick (and Kraft) just has to hold up a fist full of Super Bowl rings in anyone's face and say, "Let's be clear, we do things my way around here."

 

Reminds me of a story about a famous rock band, I can't remember which one, who needed to replace a band member. The new member started making suggestions about changing some things, and the lead guitarist said, "I have two Ferrari's in my garage, let's do things my way."

[nodakfan17]

Speaking of Bob Kraft - did his off season shenanigans just disappear?

 

Must be nice to have that kind of money.

[pacopete4]

Speaking of Bob Kraft - did his off season shenanigans just disappear?

 

Must be nice to have that kind of money.

 

4th amendment should protect everyone.

[Jenkins5]

Think Bill & Tom are only two in the league capable of taking on AB right now. If he can’t even shape him up there with all his nonsense, no team can. Patriots have been down this road multiple times with “cancer” “diva” and “troubled” players. It usually goes well for them.

 

AB works hard, is an elite player, and makes any offense better so Pats with him & Gordon.... their offense could be unbelievable if both workout. If he pulls anything dumb though, he will be out the door quick. They don’t tolerate nonsense.

[nodakfan17]

Speaking of Bob Kraft - did his off season shenanigans just disappear?

 

Must be nice to have that kind of money.

 

4th amendment should protect everyone.

It absolutely should, but most people don’t have the means to mount a rigorous defense so they settle for the plea deal. I’m a HUGE libertarian (not getting political ... just pointing out that I value individual liberty more than your average person) and I hate that Kraft got away with scuzzy behavior. I know the Constitution is hardly a technicality, but c’mon.

[pacopete4]

Speaking of Bob Kraft - did his off season shenanigans just disappear?

 

Must be nice to have that kind of money.

 

4th amendment should protect everyone.

It absolutely should, but most people don’t have the means to mount a rigorous defense so they settle for the plea deal. I’m a HUGE libertarian (not getting political ... just pointing out that I value individual liberty more than your average person) and I hate that Kraft got away with scuzzy behavior. I know the Constitution is hardly a technicality, but c’mon.

 

Well, I mean he got away with it because of improper procedure with the warrant and how the investigation went in general. If anything his money helped this situation as the police involved were in the wrong as well.

 

Although I will say that some 70+ year old man getting a handy or whatever he was doing is really none of my business.

[nodakfan17]

The actual act doesn’t bother me either until you add the possibility of human trafficking. Normally, I hate the NFL’s kangaroo court, but I’m shocked that Kraft wasn’t penalized by the NFL. Ben Roethlisberger was never convicted of a sex crime either, but was still suspended for 4 games (and that was before society’s heightened sensitivity to those types of incidents).

[pacopete4]

The actual act doesn’t bother me either until you add the possibility of human trafficking. Normally, I hate the NFL’s kangaroo court, but I’m shocked that Kraft wasn’t penalized by the NFL. Ben Roethlisberger was never convicted of a sex crime either, but was still suspended for 4 games (and that was before society’s heightened sensitivity to those types of incidents).

 

I do agree something like this should have happened.

[nodakfan17]

The actual act doesn’t bother me either until you add the possibility of human trafficking. Normally, I hate the NFL’s kangaroo court, but I’m shocked that Kraft wasn’t penalized by the NFL. Ben Roethlisberger was never convicted of a sex crime either, but was still suspended for 4 games (and that was before society’s heightened sensitivity to those types of incidents).

 

I do agree something like this should have happened.

That’s the sensible conclusion right? But if there were any Patriots fans on BF, you know they’d be responding with ‘They just hate us cuz they ain’t us.’

[nodakfan17]

The Vikings have 3 TDs on 3 Falcon turnovers. Yikes.

 

Edit: Make that 4 TDs on 4 TOs.

[Jenkins5]

NFC defense going to be tough this year! Packers, Vikings, and Bears all looked like Top 10 or higher units in week 1.

[young guns]

The Falcons looked bad. Real bad.

[yourout]

The Falcons looked bad. Real bad.

 

I have to believe the coach is on the hot seat.

[adambr2]

Cardinals Lions tie. This is the consequence of a combination of the field goal answer opportunity rule and reducing OT to 10 minutes, and it will happen more.

 

Side note, why in the world didn't the Cardinals bring the house on the last play? There were 5 seconds left and the Lions decided to go for it. If you can get to Stafford in 4 seconds you win.

[nodakfan17]

The Falcons looked bad. Real bad.

 

I have to believe the coach is on the hot seat.

He probably should have been fired after blowing a 28-3 lead in the Super Bowl.