2019 Green Bay Packers Season Thread

[nodakfan17]

Savage switched from #26 to #21.

 

When he was assigned #26 after the draft, I thought it might be a placeholder. None of the more common DB #s were available (21-25, 31-35).

[wildcat83]

Only real surprise to me is that they didn’t pick up some help at ILB. Hopefully means they’re confident Burks absence will be a short one.

 

Glad to essentially get all of our bubble guys back on the PS. Especially Lazard and Nijman.

[CheezWizHed]

Yeah, I'm a little nervous about our ILB plan against the Bears. I'm guessing heavy doses of Greene (which isn't bad) but could get dicey if the Bears go heavy run.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

I love how active Summers is at ILB, but he's raw. He's got the athleticism to be a player, though.

[RollieTime]

Looks like Brian Hoyer is signing a 3 year, $12 million contract with the Colts.

[wildcat83]

Packers have traded for ILB BJ Goodson from the Giants.

[LouisEly]

Bolton is listed on Green Bay's IR. Not sure at this point if he cleared waivers or if they pulled him back and put him on season-ending IR.

 

The Packers official team site lists Bolton on IR along with Malcolm Johnson, Mike Tyson, Jason Spriggs, and ESB.

[PeaveyFury]

Goodson started at ILB for the Giants for 20 games during his 3 seasons since being a 4th rounder in 2016. Not sure why he fell out of favor with the Shurmur staff.

 

No word on the return GB gave for him, but I'd think it insignificant.

[wildcat83]

Goodson started at ILB for the Giants for 20 games during his 3 seasons since being a 4th rounder in 2016. Not sure why he fell out of favor with the Shurmur staff.

 

No word on the return GB gave for him, but I'd think it insignificant.

 

I don't know, there were reports out of NY that he was being released. You wouldn't think a player about to be cut could garner a lot unless GB knew they would not have high enough waiver priority to get him. My guess would be a 6th or 7th.

 

I went to the Giants message boards out of curiosity. Nobody really heartbroken he’s gone. Sounds like Davis and Connely had passed him on the depth chart. They refer to him more as a thumper against the run but slow and can’t cover. Most on their boards were guessing a 7th coming back.

 

Then the thread on big blue interactive derailed. Like way off the rails. Made me appreciate BF.

 

Edit: Crawford being released to clear the roster spot.

[OnTheBlack]

Bolton is listed on Green Bay's IR. Not sure at this point if he cleared waivers or if they pulled him back and put him on season-ending IR.

 

The Packers official team site lists Bolton on IR along with Malcolm Johnson, Mike Tyson, Jason Spriggs, and ESB.

 

 

Just means they haven't reached settlements with some of them yet. They all cleared waivers. They most likely can't with Spriggs at this point...unless they're going through some process of getting multiple doctors opinions as it's all supposed to be done within 5 days of waiving them, though there are exceptions if there's a dispute.

 

But anyone waived/injured will automatically revert back until they reach a settlement or they'll have to keep them all year and in these cases, pay them all about 300K except for ESB because he was not waived and Spriggs because he didn't have an up and down contract.

[OnTheBlack]

Ok, but if they're doing this so they can get him back in fewer than 8 weeks, then presumably they think highly of him, right? It would stand to reason than that other teams may value an athletic LB'er who performed pretty well in the pre-season, and now you're taking a significant risk that he ends up signing with another team just so you can get him back a few weeks earlier.

How likely is it that a team is going to put in a claim on an injured UDFA? I'd say not very likely. Other than the pre-season games, there probably isn't a lot of scouting that other teams are going to have on him besides his college tape, and his college tape wasn't enough to get drafted.

 

I don't recall any formal announcement about the severity of his injury. Last I heard, they were seeking another opinion as the first MRI(s) were not conclusive. It's possible he might need to miss the entire season anyway, in which case another team is not going to want to pay him if there's no chance he can play this year. By releasing him, another team is going to have to pay for his medical evaluation, and he probably won't pass their physical anyway.

 

 

It's not about putting a claim on him, it'd be about him being a Free Agent and other teams potentially signing him.

 

I was and still am operating under the assumption that they'll reach an injury settlement. Lets say they agree that he'd have missed 5 weeks with his knee injury. The Packers have to wait 3 weeks longer than the settlement they agreed to in order to sign him whereas other teams could sign him.

I think the only reason his college tape wasn't enough to get him drafted was because it was just one year, but he was a priority UDFA and he played well for the Packers.

 

You make a good point however. We assumed it was a serious injury because he came back with it wrapped up in a brace and on crutches, then we heard how there was no tear and he was moving around on it. But yes, the closest we've got from him was "something with the ACL."

 

It's good though. Realistically, the Packers aren't in their base D very often and they likely won't need another true LB'er next to Martinez out there most of the time. Raven Green should spend some time out there.

 

 

 

The Packers got Lazard back, they got Nijam back and Summers looked pretty good as well. So any more hand wringing is pointless. What happens with Bolton will happen. The only thing I don't like about putting guys like him and St. Brown on IR is that they basically miss the whole years. They can't practice, they can't do anything on the field. They can be with the team, life, go to meetings. But there's very little actual growth there.

[OnTheBlack]

Goodson started at ILB for the Giants for 20 games during his 3 seasons since being a 4th rounder in 2016. Not sure why he fell out of favor with the Shurmur staff.

 

No word on the return GB gave for him, but I'd think it insignificant.

 

 

 

He and Alex Ogletree are too similar. At least that was the reason given. That would seem to be an encouraging sign as Ogletree had been a pretty good LB'er in coverage.

 

The compensation was a conditional draft pick. The Giants get to swap their 7th round pick with our 7th round pick from the Ravens this year. I don't even think we actually give anything up. Just the potential that they get a higher 7th round pick.

 

Similar to the Packers trade of McCray Seems like teams just scratching each others backs.

[OnTheBlack]

Yeah, I'm a little nervous about our ILB plan against the Bears. I'm guessing heavy doses of Greene (which isn't bad) but could get dicey if the Bears go heavy run.

 

 

Greene and Summers. Remember, Howard's gone and they have a rookie from Iowa State starting(David Montgomery) and then Tarik Cohen...the human joystick.

 

I feel much-much more nervous about our offense. I think we're gonna struggle the first half of the season. New offense, young WR'ers. It may take a while to gel. I also admit, I don't get why Jenkins isn't starting. He looked like he was obviously better than Turner and Taylor.

 

 

So it'll be up to the defense. Montgomery isn't the power back Howard was, but he's not a scat back. Clark, Lowry, Lancaster and the Smiths/Gary should get some penetration in the backfield or at least keep the blockers off Blake and whoever else is playing LB'er and the two safeties.

 

 

My first "Bold" prediction.

1st 8 games our defense will be ranked in the top 7 in the NFL in points and yards.

Offense will be ranked 15th or lower in each.

 

Schedule eases up quite a bit in 2nd half.

[CheezWizHed]

Yes, they have a rookie that has looked (albeit in preseason) pretty good. Summers runs fast, but he doesn't always seem to know where he is supposed to be. Seems like he needs to be more patient; let the play develop and then attack. So I'd rather not see him much in the first game. Goodson will probably be in base for obvious runs with Greene replacing him in passing downs.

 

Offense is going to be interesting. They've had precious little time to get on the same page while "live". I've been critical the last few years of MM's tenure since they had so little preseason work that it took them 3-4 games into the season to start clicking. And that was with a familiar offense.

[HiAndTight]

I love how active Summers is at ILB, but he's raw. He's got the athleticism to be a player, though.

 

He is, but MLB'er and RB are the two easiest positions to play early on. And he's probably only going to be out there for a small number of plays this week vs the Bears. I don't remember Nagy using a FB. I know Burton can move around like an H-back. But Pettine will probably play Greene next to Martinez as he doesn't use that Will backer very often unless the other team has two backs on the field.

 

 

 

Thrilled to see they were able to retain some of the more high priority guys to the practice squad. We're likely going to need a couple.

[FVBrewerFan]

I love how active Summers is at ILB, but he's raw. He's got the athleticism to be a player, though.

 

He is, but MLB'er and RB are the two easiest positions to play early on. And he's probably only going to be out there for a small number of plays this week vs the Bears. I don't remember Nagy using a FB. I know Burton can move around like an H-back. But Pettine will probably play Greene next to Martinez as he doesn't use that Will backer very often unless the other team has two backs on the field.

 

 

 

Thrilled to see they were able to retain some of the more high priority guys to the practice squad. We're likely going to need a couple.

 

Problem is, other teams may need them as well. That's always the danger of putting a player on the PS instead of the 53. You know already this I'm sure, but just pointing it out for others because I run across a lot of people who aren't aware they are not protected.

[KeithStone53151]

I was just poking around and noticed the injury report, how do we literally have 20 guys on the injury report...in week 1? Why is this team always seemingly so injured?

[homer]

Sternberger put on IR. Lazard promoted from PS to 53 man.

[yourout]

I love how active Summers is at ILB, but he's raw. He's got the athleticism to be a player, though.

 

He is, but MLB'er and RB are the two easiest positions to play early on. And he's probably only going to be out there for a small number of plays this week vs the Bears. I don't remember Nagy using a FB. I know Burton can move around like an H-back. But Pettine will probably play Greene next to Martinez as he doesn't use that Will backer very often unless the other team has two backs on the field.

 

 

 

Thrilled to see they were able to retain some of the more high priority guys to the practice squad. We're likely going to need a couple.

 

Problem is, other teams may need them as well. That's always the danger of putting a player on the PS instead of the 53. You know already this I'm sure, but just pointing it out for others because I run across a lot of people who aren't aware they are not protected.

 

Any decent GM is looking at other practice squads for potential thefts.

[nodakfan17]

I was just poking around and noticed the injury report, how do we literally have 20 guys on the injury report...in week 1? Why is this team always seemingly so injured?

The Bears have 3. SMH.

[LouisEly]

Problem is, other teams may need them as well. That's always the danger of putting a player on the PS instead of the 53. You know already this I'm sure, but just pointing it out for others because I run across a lot of people who aren't aware they are not protected.

Sort of. Another team can't claim them, they have to make the player a contract offer and then the player has to accept. The player almost always accepts because it usually is a lot more money, but the player's current team can offer an increase in salary to stay - sometimes up to the active roster minimum.

 

The Packers have successfully kept a few guys on the practice squad by bumping up their salary.

[LouisEly]

It's not about putting a claim on him, it'd be about him being a Free Agent and other teams potentially signing him.

They haven't released him yet. No team claimed him, so the Packers then had the option to put him on IR, which apparently they did.

[lcbj68c]

I was just poking around and noticed the injury report, how do we literally have 20 guys on the injury report...in week 1? Why is this team always seemingly so injured?

The Bears have 3. SMH.

 

Well it certainly isn't the conditioning and medical staff. :Eyeroll: Every...damn...year.

[MrTPlush]

I definitely read swap too. I assume that means we trade McCray and a 7th for a 6th ... or something similar.

 

Can’t imagine it would be a straight swap when it could potentially (heck I will go likely) a worse 7th for us.

 

 

I'm shocked. What a change from your usually optimistic disposition.

 

 

But here, try to imagine it. The Packers were going to cut McCray. In comes the Browns with their really poor OL and the Packers trade him for a conditional draft pick. You realize many of these trades result in no draft pick actually being exchanged?

 

Anyway, this one is real simple. Cut a player or get something for it, especially when dealing with a front office where almost all the top executives were formerly of the Packers. We ended up getting something.

 

 

Take your condescending garbage out to the curb on your nearest pick up date. Seriously dude?

 

I never said it was for nothing or a dumb move. I said it didn’t make sense to be a straight swap when it was with a team that could very easily be better than us record wise. And pretty amazing to call that pessimistic when most people consider the Browns comparable talent wise and their schedule is insanely light. But sure call it pessimistic if you would like I guess.

 

It’s like you are trying to explain something to me that I wasn’t even referring to. Literally all I was saying was it didn’t make sense to swap picks outright, there had to be something more to it.

 

I hope you can have a better day.

[homer]

Take it easy, guys.