2020 MLB Draft Thread (Pre-Draft Discussion)

[LouisEly]

A couple of names that interest me and might still be available:

 

1) Garrett Crotchet LHP Tennessee

2) Bryce Jarvis RHP Duke

Of the names thrown around here, these are the two I like best. I think they go college pitching again. With the shortened season this year there's less mileage on their arm, but more scouting info.

 

Jarvis trained at Driveline last sumer, Crotchet has some concerns about a shoulder injury otherwise he'd be long gone by the Brewers pick, and Beeter has elite spin rate but already has one TJ surgery under his belt. CBS has the Brewers going with Beeter:

 

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/2020-mlb-mock-draft-tigers-hold-steady-at-no-1-high-school-outfielder-jumps-into-top-five/

 

but since Jarvis is 22.5 years old he may be able to be signed for under slot, and with the Brewers giving up their comp balance pick they might be intrigued by a guy who will sign for below slot.

[DR28]

Agreed, I would love to see Crotchet fall to us.

 

We gotta go after college pitching.

[Smichaelis9]

The Brewers drafted Crochet out of high school too. He’s been the guy I’ve been locked in on for a while, feels like a good fit for what we should be looking for. Of course, he has to make it to our pick for any of that to matter.

[DR28]

Oh nice, I didnt know that!

 

Let's hope he falls then!

[brewcrewdue80]

I read either a Fangraphs article or a Baseball america story that this draft will be about College Pitching arms. Supposedly a belief that this college group is the best for a draft in a long time(or ever) Essentially it was something like the 8th or 9th best college arm is better than the college arm that was picked first last season, a season believed to be near the worst for college arms in draft.

 

Just about 1 week away. I don't see a way on thinking the Brewers can lose on this draft. The system is depth filled without any major stars currently. Any pick has to improve the system from any position. With the pitching strength of young controlled starters and the pitchers selected in Small and Kelley in 2019, one would think they might focus on a position player. The other way to look at it, is a Tampa Rays fill the system with pitcher potentials as strong trade value when it works out at the ML level. Just think this next offseason, trading Hader and Kneble would bring in a haul, next up Rasmussen/Feyereisen for the roles.

[DR28]

I read either a Fangraphs article or a Baseball america story that this draft will be about College Pitching arms. Supposedly a belief that this college group is the best for a draft in a long time(or ever) Essentially it was something like the 8th or 9th best college arm is better than the college arm that was picked first last season, a season believed to be near the worst for college arms in draft.

 

Just about 1 week away. I don't see a way on thinking the Brewers can lose on this draft. The system is depth filled without any major stars currently. Any pick has to improve the system from any position. With the pitching strength of young controlled starters and the pitchers selected in Small and Kelley in 2019, one would think they might focus on a position player. The other way to look at it, is a Tampa Rays fill the system with pitcher potentials as strong trade value when it works out at the ML level. Just think this next offseason, trading Hader and Kneble would bring in a haul, next up Rasmussen/Feyereisen for the roles.

 

Why the hell are we trading Hader and Knebel in the offseason? We need to build our bullpen around those two horses.

[DR28]

I bet we see more of this before next week.

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/06/dylan-crews-withdraws-mlb-draft-kyle-teel.html

[brewcrewdue80]

I read either a Fangraphs article or a Baseball america story that this draft will be about College Pitching arms. Supposedly a belief that this college group is the best for a draft in a long time(or ever) Essentially it was something like the 8th or 9th best college arm is better than the college arm that was picked first last season, a season believed to be near the worst for college arms in draft.

 

Just about 1 week away. I don't see a way on thinking the Brewers can lose on this draft. The system is depth filled without any major stars currently. Any pick has to improve the system from any position. With the pitching strength of young controlled starters and the pitchers selected in Small and Kelley in 2019, one would think they might focus on a position player. The other way to look at it, is a Tampa Rays fill the system with pitcher potentials as strong trade value when it works out at the ML level. Just think this next offseason, trading Hader and Kneble would bring in a haul, next up Rasmussen/Feyereisen for the roles.

 

Why the hell are we trading Hader and Knebel in the offseason? We need to build our bullpen around those two horses.

 

Kneble would become a FA after 2021 currently. Hader will be yr2 of Super two arb in 2021. The return value would be higher while saving likely over 10mil in payroll. It's the narrative on Tampa Bay & trades. Sell em high value and keep churning out talent from those returns. 7 of last 12 seasons 90wins or greater with only 2 below 80wins for Tampa.

[DR28]

The more I read, I dont think Crotchet will be available at 20.

 

I really want us to go college arm... I would be happy with one of Carmen Mlodzinski, Cole Wilcox, Cade Cavalli, Bryce Jarvis, Slade Cecconi.

[young guns]

I bet we see more of this before next week.

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/06/dylan-crews-withdraws-mlb-draft-kyle-teel.html

I wonder what the point of withdrawing is. If you get selected just dont sign. Or is it a courtesy to teams so they don't waste one of their 5 picks?

[beekay414]

He's not getting a lot of 1st round helium but Casey Martin is someone that I think fits how we draft. While he most likely ends up in CF, he has a 45 hit tool and + grades in power and overall athleticism (75 FV grade on his speed), which is exactly the type of profile we're prone to taking. Some question the hit tool due to how high his K rate is in college but I think you can teach that out of him. I don't see it as a contact issue, I see it as an approach issue. The kid gets homer happy while facing the best competition in college baseball.

 

I want no part of Dillon Dingler, though, as he seems to be projected to us more and more. He gets Sean Murphy comparisons but I don't see it. You can't be Sean Murphy if you have durability questions about sticking behind the plate. His junior season was a small sample size that I put very limited stock in.

 

Martin's my guy. The raw tools are tremendous. I know we've had issues developing these types but I have my faith.

[Mass Haas]

Via ESPN Wisconsin's "Power Lunch" with Greg Matzek: Brewers Scouting Director Tod Johnson previews the upcoming MLB Draft as it will look vastly different than years past

[nate82]

I am hoping either Garrett Mitchell or Jordan Walker fall to the Brewers.

[DR28]

I am hoping either Garrett Mitchell or Jordan Walker fall to the Brewers.

 

I bet Walker will be there, I don't see him going in the top 20.

[Mass Haas]

Young man went to my high school in Massachusetts and then on to Wake Forest, of course, I was class of '80, just a bit longer ago:

 

It’s been 25 years since a former New Bedford High baseball player was taken in the MLB Draft. Jared Shuster is about to change that.

[Jenkins5]

Based on Brewer trends my thoughts:

 

I’m expecting a College Arm in First with the depth there. Brewers don’t seem to value young arms highly both in draft (1st round) or internationally (big bonus signings) so an arm like Kelley, Bitsko. Or Montgomery don’t seem likely even if on board. Crochet seems like one they’d be high on. Drafted by them once, big frame, throws mid to upper 90s, and has some of best spin rates in class. Wilcox & Jarvis seem likely. Jarvis would seem close to Small pick last year. Cavalli & Mlodzinski come with more question marks but higher ceilings.

 

College Catcher has been very high priority for Brewers recently, if Bailey drops, he could def be the guy. Dingler has the defense you are looking for but bat is going to be question. I don’t see him at #20.

 

High School bats. In first they like professional hitters. If Ed Howard is there at #20, I’d pounce on him. Hassell is one of the best pure hitters in draft. Hitting probably will not not be an issue for him has he progresses however other tools are average across board. Soderstorm is one of my favorites. He is great athlete for a catcher but his bat is most exciting. Even if he has to move off catcher to 3rd or OF. If his bat blossoms way it could, it’d be a good pick. Crow-Armstrong is great defender and athlete but not sure bat has enough polish to it to go at #20. Walker is a little risky. Like Gray Jr. has all the tools & ceiling to be a great prospect with big bat but contact issues & K’s could be a problem.

 

In the end I will say Bailey, Wilcox, or Soderstorm will be the pick

[A Swing and A Drive]

1st Round Mock through Brewers at #20 plus predictions for all 5 Brewer selections.

 

https://www.podbean.com/eu/pb-gnxem-df1730

 

1st Round Pick Pick #20 overall C Dillon Dingler Ohio State

 

Others

LHP Garrett Crochet Tennessee

RHP Clayton Beeter Texas Tech

1B Aaron Sabato UNC

RHP Cole Wilcox Georgia

OF Isiah Greene HS- Cal

C Austin Wells Arizona

 

2nd Round Pick #56 1B Blaze Jordan HS- Mississippi

 

Others

3B Jordan Walker HS- Georgia

LHP Dax Fulton HS- Oklahoma

SS Freddy Zamora Miami

RHP Nick Frasso Loyola-Maramount

3rd round Pick #92 RHP Stevie Emmanuels Washington

 

Others

OF Parker Chavers Coastal Carolina

3B Tyler Keenan Mississippi

RHP Taylor Dollord Cal Poly

SS Nander De Sedas Florida State

4th Round Pick #120 RHP Jason Savacool HS- New York

 

Others

OF Steven Williams Auburn

3B Tanner Witt HS- Texas

RHP Carson Seymour Kansas State

RHP Trey Dillard Missouri

 

5th Round Pick #150 SS Adam Oviedo Oral Roberts

 

Others

SS Cade Horton HS- OK

SS Milan Tolentino HS- Cal

RHP Austin Love UNC

OF Mario Zabala HS- Puerto Rico

[sveumrules]

In the end I will say Bailey, Wilcox, or Soderstorm will be the pick

 

FanGraphs second mock is out today with us selecting Texas Tech RHP Clayton Beeter...

 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/mock-draft-2-0-2/

 

Looks like Bailey would have to slip, though they have Wilcox & Soderstrom going in our range. The first FG mock mentioned Wilcox's "fastball traits are considered less desirable by analytically-inclined draft rooms", which makes me think he's probably out for us & with the high bust rate for HS catchers Soderstrom seems kind of iffy unless they really believe in the bat.

 

Peter Crow-Armstrong kind of sounds like an OF version of Turang in that he was considered one of the top HS kids in his class as a junior, then slipped some his senior year. Also sort of reminds me of a HS version of Ray being tooled up, but with questions about the hit tool.

[DR28]

I'm going out on a limb here, we find our 1B of the future in Aaron Sabato.

[brewmann04]

I will think 3/5 will be arms

[sveumrules]

The latest CBS mock has us going with RHP Tanner Burns from Auburn...

 

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/2020-mlb-mock-draft-spencer-torkelson-austin-martin-go-1-2-marlins-select-first-pitcher-off-board/

 

Would love it if we could somehow come out of this with HS RHP Nick Bitsko, FG had him going 18 while CBS has him mocked at 23. Sounds like kind of an unknown with reclassifying & not pitching this spring, but I think the Brewers could be intrigued by him being one of the younger arms in the draft & the FB/CB combo.

[DR28]

I would be good with Burns, fast mover and RH.

 

Pair with Woodruff, Small and Ashby... Hell yes!

 

Then Sobato with 2nd rd pick but I don’t think he’ll be there.

[Eye Black]

A few pre-draft thoughts...

 

* Nick Gonzales looks like the most surefire future big league regular in this draft, IMO. His swing and ability to barrel the ball reminds me of Keston Hiura, and it’s hard to imagine the hit tool not carrying him through the minors quickly.

 

* The college pitching is so, so deep that the Brewers could certainly walk away from this draft with a couple of future big league arms if they go that route with some of their picks.

 

* I would probably take Ed Howard over Pete Crow-Armstrong (apparently known as PCA among to the cool kids), but either would be a nice addition to the Brewers farm system.

 

* If I had to pick one player likely to be taken outside the top 50 selections that could develop into a future superstar it would be Yohandy Morales, a high school SS/3B from Miami. There is a lot to dream on with his profile. The Manny Machado comps might are a bit lofty, but you don’t have to squint too hard to see how a 6’-4” kid with a lanky, athletic frame that is already displaying raw power could skyrocket as he develops in a professional organization.

 

* Two years ago the Cardinals picked 19th overall (took Nolan Gorman) and the Brewers 21st (Brice Turang). This year the Brewers are right ahead of the Cardinals (20th overall versus 21st). I will always associate these picks with one another since they’re made in such close proximity.

 

* I am really looking forward to this draft, with the recent exodus of minor league players from the organization via cuts it will be nice to see some talent infused back into the system.

[brewmann04]

I hope the Brewers go pitching and hopefully it be guys for the rotation and not the Bullpen.

[patrickgpe]

agreed, if its such a strong college arm draft, lets try to get one that can help us in the near future. would be ok if they took their normal "up the middle" player that they are known for.