Quintez Cephus Found Not Guilty

[tmwiese55]

It simply wasn’t needed. Make a point in every other way. If you cant, don’t type it. It’s really not hard.

 

But name calling is? Those are huge glaring examples in the last 20 years which are completely contradictory to his point/view. And I commented in no way on either president or politics, merely just stating that the scandals happened which should be in no way political or controversial. So essentially in your take one couldn't use the Nixon cover up scandal in a discussion regarding say OSU football and how the coverup is often worse than the crime itself because it involves a president. In a weird way, you've now turned a legit discussion on the case into a political discussion.

 

ETA: H&T I think you and I are way close than you initially thought. Glad to move into other avenues of it.

[homer]

Keep the discussion to Cephus and not the current social climate, please.

 

reminder

 

Reminder

[pacopete4]

Keep the discussion to Cephus and not the current social climate, please.

 

reminder

 

Reminder

 

Just lock it up. My bad. Lock it up and throw away the key. I mean, we have a Nixon reference in the damn Cephus thread. Amazing.

[tmwiese55]

Sorry, we had a couple people discussing it civilly just fine and without anything political and you came in attacking them in something not involving you. You're the one who derailed it, even putting a big mocking meme in the middle.

 

To the real topic and last thing HT said. Yes, really tough to know what you can do as good luck trying to end the hook up culture that exists and including alcohol on college campuses. I really don't have a good solution. One thing I read a year or two back was from Deandre Levy(not sure why he was involved) and that stance was that anytime alcohol was in a woman's system it would make them unable to consent. Something as extreme sounds just impossible. But I'd guess if QC gave advice to teammates it would be just avoid hooking up with drunk girls, be sure everyone is of clear mind and not in this gray area. Probably good advice overall.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

 

Just lock it up. My bad. Lock it up and throw away the key. I mean, we have a Nixon reference in the damn Cephus thread. Amazing.

 

Not really seeing that as bringing politics in. It's just a fact, that president today and the president in 1999 were both mired in sexual scandals in which the women weren't believed at the start. Seemed pretty civil other than you going off the rails for some odd reason. Both were very high profile and the latter is arguably the most front-and-center example in history.

[AmFamFan]

Interesting development.

 

https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/08/07/quintez-cephus-petitions-for-readmittance-to-wisconsin-after-acquittal-on-sexual-assault-charges/

[MrTPlush]

 

Just lock it up. My bad. Lock it up and throw away the key. I mean, we have a Nixon reference in the damn Cephus thread. Amazing.

 

Not really seeing that as bringing politics in. It's just a fact, that president today and the president in 1999 were both mired in sexual scandals in which the women weren't believed at the start. Seemed pretty civil other than you going off the rails for some odd reason. Both were very high profile and the latter is arguably the most front-and-center example in history.

 

There are probably thousands of examples you could use that don't have any connection to politics. It is just asking for things to go south...and such comments always make it go south. Avoiding mentioning political figures and/or strong political related social happenings is usually a wise idea.

 

I mean this topic would usually be a no-go...but since Cephus still has a chance to be a Badger moving forward its nice if the thread could avoid spiraling out of control.

[pacopete4]

 

Just lock it up. My bad. Lock it up and throw away the key. I mean, we have a Nixon reference in the damn Cephus thread. Amazing.

 

Not really seeing that as bringing politics in. It's just a fact, that president today and the president in 1999 were both mired in sexual scandals in which the women weren't believed at the start. Seemed pretty civil other than you going off the rails for some odd reason. Both were very high profile and the latter is arguably the most front-and-center example in history.

 

It didn’t need to be said. Much like this post. We had a mod re-open the thread and asked us not to go there. There isn’t a need for it. Like MrTPlush said, there are plenty of other ways to deliver a point without bringing us into that world.

[tmwiese55]

The only thing that made it go south was someone freaking out about how it might go south, so now a page discussing how someone posts rather than the topic,. haha. With the best part being the enforcer of etiquette coming in calling names, a direct violation of etiteque. Maybe he should be a Cardinals fan, haha. Sorry to mods, as this is now a mess.

 

This will be interesting how it plays out. Lots of legal stuff folks like us couldn't know all the details on. Like, would them readmitting be a default admission that they were wrong to expel and thus basically admit guilt if he brought a civil suit, etc. So do they have to stick to their guns so to speak even though they know it's not really the right thing to do. Can they negotiate something with him now. Then of course the multitude of routes he could go based on this decision. What a mess overall for everyone involved and UW stuck in the middle of something they really had nothing to do with.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

 

Just lock it up. My bad. Lock it up and throw away the key. I mean, we have a Nixon reference in the damn Cephus thread. Amazing.

 

Not really seeing that as bringing politics in. It's just a fact, that president today and the president in 1999 were both mired in sexual scandals in which the women weren't believed at the start. Seemed pretty civil other than you going off the rails for some odd reason. Both were very high profile and the latter is arguably the most front-and-center example in history.

 

It didn’t need to be said. Much like this post. We had a mod re-open the thread and asked us not to go there. There isn’t a need for it. Like MrTPlush said, there are plenty of other ways to deliver a point without bringing us into that world.

 

Wasn't aware you are the purveyor of "what needs to be said," lmao.

 

The only one that really didn't need to be said, was, frankly, yours. It wasn't going off the rails at all, and honestly, it just seems like you really wanted it to. Seemed a little too trigger happy there.

[pacopete4]

Yes, yes. You got me. Looking to burn down the Cephus thread. Mission accomplished.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

I will say that examples are probably not great since neither one pertained to a sexual crime. There was scandal and other alleged crimes there but nothing that really parallels this one. That said, it was still a very benign statement and your reaction was way over the top. If the purpose of that rule is to avoid things going off the rails it doesn't make a lot of sense to me to enforce it while pushing things off the rails.

[pacopete4]

You must love listening to yourself talk eh? Maybe it wasn’t a good approach. Maybe it was. Moving on...

[Oxy]

I have been thinking what Cephus would teach others regarding his experience? What led him to get into this situation? Could he (or would he) avoid it?

 

This would really go a long way toward him getting what he wants. Based on the public information known, most reasonable people would say that it was a correct verdict in the criminal case, but that he used poor judgment and got himself into a situation that he shouldn't have been in. Acknowledging that to the school and the athletic dept would be step 1 in his reinstatement.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

You must love listening to yourself talk eh? Maybe it wasn’t a good approach. Maybe it was. Moving on...

 

You responded to literally every post. Not sure how that constitutes "listening to myself talk."

 

You're a troll, and you've done nothing in this thread but troll. If you're such a stickler for the rules, you should probably begin to follow them.

[homer]

Fin

 

A few points:

 

1) From Fan Forum Etiquette:

What kind of discussion is not allowed?

 

Please keep politics, religion, and sex out of the forum. Fairly or not, these topics have regularly resulted in threads going out of control. Also, please avoid contentious topics such as racial and ethnic issues.

If you're into discussing these topics, we recommend the separate forum Brewerfan Political Scene.

 

Consent is a contentious topic

 

2) Just mentioning a politician doesn't make a post political. I could say "The Brewers haven't been in a World Series since the Reagan era." That is not political. If someone responded, "Man, the Reagan era sucked because...Reagan." That would be political.

 

3) Politics aren't the only topics to avoid. See #1.

 

4) Just because people are discussing a contentious topic civilly does not mean the thread will stay open.

 

4) If there is any Cephus news, please post it in the Badger thread. If it veers off into broader discussions related to consent you will get a temp ban. Thanks.