Jesus Aguilar to Tampa, Jake Faria to MIL

[pacopete4]

Jake Faria has no options remaining after this season.

 

This is a bit of a bummer. Was hoping for one option.

[HarveysWBs]

There are NO guarantees, BUT I would definitely be willing to bet that Robbie Ray would help them(substantially) this year, so would Greinke...and guess what?? The beauty of that is, they are also under control NEXT year too. Not just rentals

 

In the time it took you to write that, Ray walked two batters in a bullpen session. He isn’t a savior, and neither is Bumgarner or Wheeler, and all would be hugely expensive, meaning we’d waste practically all or most of our limited trade pieces on a guy that won’t be what most fans will expect—which is “the guy” that can anchor a staff. And Syndergaard is off the table. Face it, there is no Superman coming this year, no 2008 Sabbathia ready to lay waste to the division down the stretch. It isn’t happening.

 

But once you accept that, there is peace on the other side. You can rest assured knowing the Brewers haven’t staked it all on this year, and pitchers will be healthier going into 2020, with another year of growth for Burnes and Peralta, and who knows, there’s always a chance we can land Cole this winter. That’s not so bad, is it? I just worry we’re going to lose you to a heart attack in the next two hours...

[Roderick]

The problem with Grandal at 1B or using Thames against lefties is that we have a lot of data to say that's not a great idea. Grandal is OK vs. lefties but you generally want someone to mash at 1B.

 

I'm guessing Braun gets the 1B glove back or there is a call-up or another move coming.

 

EDIT: I will grant that Grandal is improved against LHP this year and of late.

 

Yes, but Pina at catcher / Grandal at 1B, potentially means savings runs for the pitcher with Pina and potentially rejuvenating Grandal - as they have been treating him like a rented mule this season. Give him a few days off from behind the plate, would probably help his batting.

[And That]

It's probably because he's been pitching out of the pen in MLB this year, but Faria's 4S FB velo has ticked up 2-2.5 MPH over 2018.

[folly412]

Better chance..maybe, guaranteed?? Not by any stretch of the imagination. I'm a win now kind of guy...when you get close, you should really try to do whatever is possible to do to win now. I know that's what Mark A wants, he always has. You never know when these chances will come around again.

 

Good move for the future?? Sure, potentially, and I applaud him for that. But we are still in 2019, with a season to finish, and right in the middle of it...that should be the concern as of this moment.

 

What move would you make that would guarantee wins this year since that is what you want from the Brewers' front office?

 

There are NO guarantees, BUT I would definitely be willing to bet that Robbie Ray would help them(substantially) this year, so would Greinke...and guess what?? The beauty of that is, they are also under control NEXT year too. Not just rentals

 

 

Greinke is also under control to the tune of $80M through his age 37 season, and we don't have the prospects in our system to sell to have Arizona pick up the tab on even half of that.

[bill hAll Star]

He has a point. They should have definitely traded Jesus for Syndergaard. That would have been a much better deal for us.

 

Trading a God for a God would be fair and fill a need for both teams.

[adamds22]

The thing is, aside from the Reds who are a little ways back we have done more to this point to improve our team than the Cubs or Cards and hopefully we make a move or two more here shortly.

[adamds22]

The thing is, aside from the Reds who are a little ways back we have done more to this point to improve our team than the Cubs or Cards and hopefully we make a move or two more here shortly.

[jerichoholicninja]

He has a point. They should have definitely traded Jesus for Syndergaard. That would have been a much better deal for us.

 

That Stearns didn't make this deal is a fireable offense.

[mtrebs]

You’d think AZ would let Greinke go for nothing if a team were willing to eat his contract.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Imagine if we just got a reliable 2020 rotation arm for Jesus Aguilar. If we did, that's phenomenal.

[reillymcshane]

He has a point. They should have definitely traded Jesus for Syndergaard. That would have been a much better deal for us.

 

Trading a God for a God would be fair and fill a need for both teams.

Well played.

[tmwiese55]

For the Braun to 1st vs lefties talk. I get it, but it still doesn't solve much. You'd just be playing Gamel or Grisham vs lefties. Granted, my eye test seems to think Gamel holds his own vs lefties better than Shaw/Thames but still you're playing a lefty no matter how you slice it.

 

More I think about the happier I am with this, I'd guess they were very close to DFA Jesus not long ago so to get this back is quite a pull. When I saw the trade happened I assumed some minor league flyer types, so was happy to see someone who can help now.

 

Add one more pitcher, starter or relief, at minimal cost and see what happens.

[bill hAll Star]

I understand that the Rays wanted RH power due to too many of their bats being lefty.

 

Interesting question given the 40-man crunch if Aguilar is even on TB's roster next year and/or if he's non-tendered.

 

There should be a place for him as platoon 1B/DH but he's probably the last priority position player. Depends if Yandy is healthy and is able to take the 3B/1B/DH role and they have Brosseau up all year.

[homer]

He has a point. They should have definitely traded Jesus for Syndergaard. That would have been a much better deal for us.

 

Trading a God for a God would be fair and fill a need for both teams.

Well played.

 

Yes, underrated post.

[Pugger]

He has a point. They should have definitely traded Jesus for Syndergaard. That would have been a much better deal for us.

 

That Stearns didn't make this deal is a fireable offense.

 

How can Stearns or anyone else make a deal if the Mets don't want to trade him?? Give NY Yelich in return??

[tmwiese55]

I've devised a way we can Strasburg and Alonzo and we wouldn't have to give that much up. - George Costanza

[markedman5]

Here we go....

Robert Murray

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#Brewers and #SFGiants in agreement on significant trade, sources tell The Athletic. Mauricio Dubon to San Francisco.

[harrydalton]

I liked Aguilar a lot more than most. But RH 1b-DH types who aren't playing regularly don't command a big return. I think the AL is Aguilar's ideal location. I give the trade a C-minus. Faria looks very similar to a number of guys they already have but they need healthy arms right now so he seems to fit the bill.

[wntrtxn21]

Faria is controllable, and looks like he has some upside. Interesting bullpen piece, although he did start 14 games for the Rays in 2017 and was very effective. Not so successful in 2018, which I assume prompted the bullpen shift (plus, Tampa gets more creative with their pitching staff than most clubs). I’m intrigued.

 

Where is the upside? 5.73 FIP this year, 5.08 last year. Walks a ton of guys and isn't anywhere close to being a closer. Another hugely under-whelming move by Stearns.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Faria is controllable, and looks like he has some upside. Interesting bullpen piece, although he did start 14 games for the Rays in 2017 and was very effective. Not so successful in 2018, which I assume prompted the bullpen shift (plus, Tampa gets more creative with their pitching staff than most clubs). I’m intrigued.

 

Where is the upside? 5.73 FIP this year, 5.08 last year. Walks a ton of guys and isn't anywhere close to being a closer. Another hugely under-whelming move by Stearns.

 

A guy with upside for a player who was likely a goner after this year, if not sooner. It's a minor move. Unbunch them undies.

[sveumrules]

Faria is controllable, and looks like he has some upside. Interesting bullpen piece, although he did start 14 games for the Rays in 2017 and was very effective. Not so successful in 2018, which I assume prompted the bullpen shift (plus, Tampa gets more creative with their pitching staff than most clubs). I’m intrigued.

 

Where is the upside? 5.73 FIP this year, 5.08 last year. Walks a ton of guys and isn't anywhere close to being a closer. Another hugely under-whelming move by Stearns.

 

It's almost like he pitched over half of his career innings in 2016 with pretty decent results (80 ERA-/97 FIP-).

 

Is there a reason you're intentionally leaving that out?

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Faria is controllable, and looks like he has some upside. Interesting bullpen piece, although he did start 14 games for the Rays in 2017 and was very effective. Not so successful in 2018, which I assume prompted the bullpen shift (plus, Tampa gets more creative with their pitching staff than most clubs). I’m intrigued.

 

Where is the upside? 5.73 FIP this year, 5.08 last year. Walks a ton of guys and isn't anywhere close to being a closer. Another hugely under-whelming move by Stearns.

 

It's almost like he pitched over half of his career innings in 2016 with pretty decent results (80 ERA-/97 FIP-).

 

Is there a reason you're intentionally leaving that out?

 

I can answer that ... every post this guy makes is critical of the Brewers. Every one of them.

[rcc]

Sad to see Jesus go but I think it's a good move. Upside with Faria in the bullpen makes it better and Jesus can fit in at DH in Tampa.

[Ennder]

Faria is controllable, and looks like he has some upside. Interesting bullpen piece, although he did start 14 games for the Rays in 2017 and was very effective. Not so successful in 2018, which I assume prompted the bullpen shift (plus, Tampa gets more creative with their pitching staff than most clubs). I’m intrigued.

 

Where is the upside? 5.73 FIP this year, 5.08 last year. Walks a ton of guys and isn't anywhere close to being a closer. Another hugely under-whelming move by Stearns.

 

His stats have been so all over the place it is really hard to know what he is. His AAA stat line this season is pretty good and shows at least some upside. Not really going to judge him by 10 IP in the majors in 2019. He just looks like a failed starter who might be a good RP at this point. Considering we traded a guy who isn't even playing full time and is a negative defensively I don't see this as some sort of huge deal. I can't really give this trade anything but a C for a grade.