Wahl

[Madhawk23]

I apologize if this was already discussed in another thread, but I saw the report this weekend that Bobby Wahl was throwing off the mound already, and that his next step would be facing live hitters. This shocked me, as I guess I had just assumed that he was out the entire season and we wouldn't hear his name again until next spring. But, is it now reasonable to expect him back pitching by end of August or early September? I know we can't really bank on him being a major contributor in the pen down the stretch, but is it possible that he could at least be a possibility?

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

I apologize if this was already discussed in another thread, but I saw the report this weekend that Bobby Wahl was throwing off the mound already, and that his next step would be facing live hitters. This shocked me, as I guess I had just assumed that he was out the entire season and we wouldn't hear his name again until next spring. But, is it now reasonable to expect him back pitching by end of August or early September? I know we can't really bank on him being a major contributor in the pen down the stretch, but is it possible that he could at least be a possibility?

 

Rebuilding an ACL has become such a common surgery now, and you are seeing athletes recover from it quicker and quicker. Because it wasn't an arm injury, I'm not worried about Wahl being able to make all his pitches. Where I'd be worried is if he has enough mobility to field his position and protect himself. He's also a high-velocity guy, which puts a lot of torque on his legs. The report says he's throwing off the mound, but it doesn't indicate whether that throwing is at maximum effort.

[Brew crew 92]

I apologize if this was already discussed in another thread, but I saw the report this weekend that Bobby Wahl was throwing off the mound already, and that his next step would be facing live hitters. This shocked me, as I guess I had just assumed that he was out the entire season and we wouldn't hear his name again until next spring. But, is it now reasonable to expect him back pitching by end of August or early September? I know we can't really bank on him being a major contributor in the pen down the stretch, but is it possible that he could at least be a possibility?

 

I don’t see why not.

If he’s throwing off the mound he must have been cleared by the doctors and I would think, would need the 6 weeks that ST affords pitchers to be ready for the season, maybe sooner since he’s a reliever. With him and Suter and Woodruff and Nelson and Burnes and possible additions this deadline, this teams September could be a lot like last year’s.

[homer]

Just so we're all on the same page, here's the report from July 18th:

 

Wahl (knee) has been throwing off a mound, Sophia Minnaert of Fox Sports Wisconsin reports.

 

Wahl underwent surgery to repair a torn ACL in March, but he's been making solid progress in his recovery. He's already been cleared to throw off a mound, and the next step will be to face live hitters, per Minnaert. It's also worth noting that Wahl has dropped 15-to-20 pounds while on the injured list. If all goes according to plan, there's a chance the right-hander could return to Milwaukee's bullpen before the 2019 campaign comes to a close.

[torts]

am I the only one who is saying "who"? I dont remember who youre talking about

[LouisEly]

In 2008 Gallardo blew out his ACL (technically, some jerk on the Cubs sliding into first base blew it out) on May 1st and pitched again on September 25th.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

am I the only one who is saying "who"? I dont remember who youre talking about

 

Wahl is the reliever they picked up from the Mets in the Broxton deal.

[nate82]

Just so we're all on the same page, here's the report from July 18th:

 

Wahl (knee) has been throwing off a mound, Sophia Minnaert of Fox Sports Wisconsin reports.

 

Wahl underwent surgery to repair a torn ACL in March, but he's been making solid progress in his recovery. He's already been cleared to throw off a mound, and the next step will be to face live hitters, per Minnaert. It's also worth noting that Wahl has dropped 15-to-20 pounds while on the injured list. If all goes according to plan, there's a chance the right-hander could return to Milwaukee's bullpen before the 2019 campaign comes to a close.

 

That chance is probably close to a 10% chance of him playing for the Brewers this year and if he does come back it will be closer to the mid-September at the earliest. I wouldn't count on Wahl coming back this year at all.

 

For Wahl to come back by September he would need to be pitching simulated games within the next 1-2 weeks. Then he would need at least 3-5 minor league rehab appearances he will probably start one or two games in A+ and then go to AAA and have a couple of relief appearances. That means he would need to be starting to do this by mid to late August. Right now he is in the phase of throwing off the mound where he will get rest in between the next step is then facing live batters which will then lead to simulated games. The simulated games have to start by the first week of August if he is not there then he is not pitching for the Brewers this year as he won't be able to get the minor league work in to complete his rehab.

 

Basically we will know if Wahl will be pitching with the Brewers this year or not by the end of the first week of August. If he hasn't made progress to the simulated games by then or if he is not ready to start his minor league rehab assignment by mid August, then he won't be playing for the Brewers this year.

[homer]

In 2008 Gallardo blew out his ACL (technically, some jerk on the Cubs sliding into first base blew it out) on May 1st and pitched again on September 25th.

 

For giggles, I just re-read the thread about Gallardo. It's kind of entertaining actually.

[benji]

4-5 months for a pitcher from an ACL is not unreasonable.

[ThisIsMyCrew]

With the only trade deadline for postseason implications being July 31. Would that apply to those injured as well? Or is it based purely on 40 man?

[rickh150]

4-5 months for a pitcher from an ACL is not unreasonable.

 

Pretty Unreasonable.... he most likely is not pitching for us this season. Shoot for 2020.

[pacopete4]

Being a relief arm he has a better shot to return.

[OnTheBlack]

In 2008 Gallardo blew out his ACL (technically, some jerk on the Cubs sliding into first base blew it out) on May 1st and pitched again on September 25th.

 

 

This was one of my first thoughts at the time of the injury. IIRC, it happened one of the first days that pitchers and catchers reported. So he had a couple month head start on Yo. Guys respond differently and Yovani was a more established pitcher(barely, but at least we were more familiar with him at the time). But if they were willing to risk it with our prized young prospect, if Wahl can get ready, I'd imagine he'd be given a shot if everything else is in line.

[OnTheBlack]

I apologize if this was already discussed in another thread, but I saw the report this weekend that Bobby Wahl was throwing off the mound already, and that his next step would be facing live hitters. This shocked me, as I guess I had just assumed that he was out the entire season and we wouldn't hear his name again until next spring. But, is it now reasonable to expect him back pitching by end of August or early September? I know we can't really bank on him being a major contributor in the pen down the stretch, but is it possible that he could at least be a possibility?

 

I don’t see why not.

If he’s throwing off the mound he must have been cleared by the doctors and I would think, would need the 6 weeks that ST affords pitchers to be ready for the season, maybe sooner since he’s a reliever. With him and Suter and Woodruff and Nelson and Burnes and possible additions this deadline, this teams September could be a lot like last year’s.

 

Well, there's plenty reasons why not. Everything would have to go right in order for him to get back. The Brewers would also have to have some incentive at that point in the season.

 

Also...at this point, it seems pretty obvious to everyone else that Jimmy Nelson pre-injury isn't coming back anytime soon. Corbin Burnes has been way too erratic this year.

 

Brent Suter? There's almost no scenario in which you want to throw a guy who's coming back from TJ surgery into a playoff push.

 

That leaves Wahl...IF everything goes right. Possible. Though without having pitched all year, he's gonna have to get a feel for his pitches real quick. And Woody. Hoping for the others to contribute is...wishful thinking. I mean, Wahl's also a little wishful thinking, but it's at least a little bit realistic.

[Brew crew 92]

I apologize if this was already discussed in another thread, but I saw the report this weekend that Bobby Wahl was throwing off the mound already, and that his next step would be facing live hitters. This shocked me, as I guess I had just assumed that he was out the entire season and we wouldn't hear his name again until next spring. But, is it now reasonable to expect him back pitching by end of August or early September? I know we can't really bank on him being a major contributor in the pen down the stretch, but is it possible that he could at least be a possibility?

 

I don’t see why not.

If he’s throwing off the mound he must have been cleared by the doctors and I would think, would need the 6 weeks that ST affords pitchers to be ready for the season, maybe sooner since he’s a reliever. With him and Suter and Woodruff and Nelson and Burnes and possible additions this deadline, this teams September could be a lot like last year’s.

 

Well, there's plenty reasons why not. Everything would have to go right in order for him to get back. The Brewers would also have to have some incentive at that point in the season.

 

Also...at this point, it seems pretty obvious to everyone else that Jimmy Nelson pre-injury isn't coming back anytime soon. Corbin Burnes has been way too erratic this year.

 

Brent Suter? There's almost no scenario in which you want to throw a guy who's coming back from TJ surgery into a playoff push.

 

That leaves Wahl...IF everything goes right. Possible. Though without having pitched all year, he's gonna have to get a feel for his pitches real quick. And Woody. Hoping for the others to contribute is...wishful thinking. I mean, Wahl's also a little wishful thinking, but it's at least a little bit realistic.

 

I’d actually be surprised if he didn’t pitch for the big league team sometime in September. He’s throwing off the mound, probably since he’s a reliever, doesn’t need the full 6 weeks, I’ll say he should be ready by the end of the minor league season. Can’t wait to see him throw his 100 mph FB in a brewer uniform.

 

I’m not expecting all of Nelson Wahl Suter and Burnes to dominate the month of September for the brewers, but I wouldn’t just poo poo them either. With regards to Nelson I can definitely see potential success in a bullpen role, as with Burnes too. It’s more than possible, even if not probable.

[JohnBriggs12]

In 2008 Gallardo blew out his ACL (technically, some jerk on the Cubs sliding into first base blew it out) on May 1st and pitched again on September 25th.

 

That's urban legend. I was at that game in 2008. Gallardo took a bad step covering first. He wasn't contacted. He actually went out and pitched a scoreless inning after that.

[benji]

Prince got in his way kind of if I remember.

 

 

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[DHonks]

In 2008 Gallardo blew out his ACL (technically, some jerk on the Cubs sliding into first base blew it out) on May 1st and pitched again on September 25th.

 

Actually, Prince Fielder gave Yo a terrible feed, leading Yo into a path where his legs tangled with a runner.

[Jenkins5]

4-5 months for a pitcher from an ACL is not unreasonable.

 

Pretty Unreasonable.... he most likely is not pitching for us this season. Shoot for 2020.

 

No it’s pretty reasonable injury wise for pitcher to return. Unreasonable aspect would be assuming a roster bubble guy, gets threw all his rehab outings and makes enough impact to be promoted. If he had a strong MLB track record like say a Jeffress.... he would be able to pitch by September and up.

 

ACL injuries are very different for sport & position you play. ACL is needed for lateral movements. A basketball and football player place a large amount of stress on their ACLs. They need to change directions quickly and explosively. You can not thrive in those sports without a strong ACL. A pitcher on the other hand doesn’t place nearly as much stress on ACL in mechanics or or on bases. Most dangerous place is fielding the baseball for them.

[rickh150]

4-5 months for a pitcher from an ACL is not unreasonable.

 

Pretty Unreasonable.... he most likely is not pitching for us this season. Shoot for 2020.

 

No it’s pretty reasonable injury wise for pitcher to return. Unreasonable aspect would be assuming a roster bubble guy, gets threw all his rehab outings and makes enough impact to be promoted. If he had a strong MLB track record like say a Jeffress.... he would be able to pitch by September and up.

 

ACL injuries are very different for sport & position you play. ACL is needed for lateral movements. A basketball and football player place a large amount of stress on their ACLs. They need to change directions quickly and explosively. You can not thrive in those sports without a strong ACL. A pitcher on the other hand doesn’t place nearly as much stress on ACL in mechanics or or on bases. Most dangerous place is fielding the baseball for them.

 

Obviously we are talking about him being a high leverage contributing factor in the playoff push, not mop up duty.

[SRB]

I was so excited for Wahl coming into the season

 

One day we will still get a Hader-Knebel-Wahl power trio.