2019-07-01: Brewers (Houser) at Reds (Mahle) [Brewers win, 8-6 -- After just one hit through 6 innings the Brewers bat around in a 5-run 7th inning]

[Eye Black]

 

[pre]Brewers Lineup Reds Lineup

 

1. Yasmani Grandal (S) C 1. Jesse Winker (L) RF

2. Christian Yelich (L) RF 2. Joey Votto (L) 1B

3. Mike Moustakas (L) 3B 3. Eugenio Suarez ® 3B

4. Lorenzo Cain ® CF 4. Scooter Gennett (L) 2B

5. Eric Thames (L) 1B 5. Nick Senzel ® CF

6. Keston Hiura ® 2B 6. Derek Dietrich (L) LF

7. Ben Gamel (L) LF 7. Jose Iglesias ® SS

8. Adrian Houser ® P 8. Curt Casali ® C

9. Tyler Saladino ® SS 9. Tyler Mahle ® P[/pre]

 

Adrian Houser: Batter (Reds) vs Pitching Stats

 

Tyler Mahle: Batter (Brewers) vs Pitching Stats

[Eye Black]

The Brewers don’t have many at-bats against the 24 year old Reds starter, Tyler Mahle, but Eric Thames has a nice line facing him in just 6 plate appearances (2-for-4, 2 HR, 2 BB).

[willie key]

Doesn’t Eric Thames have a nice line against the reds period?

[KeithStone53151]

Mahle has very strong splits against RHB. For sure load up the lefties today.

 

Grandal

Yelich

Moose

Braun/Cain

Thames

Hiura

Gamel

P

Saladino/Arcia

[BruisedCrew]

I would put the gimmick of Grandal leading off to rest and put Gamel in the leadoff spot. The problem with the Brewers offense last week was that virtually nobody was hitting (including Yelich and Grandal), not the order in which guys were making out.

 

Putting low percentage hitters like Arcia and Saladino in the ninth spot doesn’t do much either. Having the pitcher come up earlier offsets whatever value there might be.

[Pugger]

I would put the gimmick of Grandal leading off to rest and put Gamel in the leadoff spot. The problem with the Brewers offense last week was that virtually nobody was hitting (including Yelich and Grandal), not the order in which guys were making out.

 

Putting low percentage hitters like Arcia and Saladino in the ninth spot doesn’t do much either. Having the pitcher come up earlier offsets whatever value there might be.

 

Of course if Arcia and Saladino are hitting about as good as any pitcher this side of Woody what difference does it make?

[stoutdude04]

I would put the gimmick of Grandal leading off to rest and put Gamel in the leadoff spot. The problem with the Brewers offense last week was that virtually nobody was hitting (including Yelich and Grandal), not the order in which guys were making out.

 

Putting low percentage hitters like Arcia and Saladino in the ninth spot doesn’t do much either. Having the pitcher come up earlier offsets whatever value there might be.

 

Why is it a gimmick? Because hes not fast? He had the highest OBP on the team outside of Yelich(and Thames slightly). The goal should be...get more guys on base in front of Yelich. Grandal leading off does that.

[pacopete4]

Might be time for Thames to lead off again.

 

Thames- 1B

Yelich- RF

Grandal- C

Braun- LF

Moose- 3B

Hiura- 2B

Gamel- CF

Arcia- SS

Pitcher

[treego14]

Might be time for Thames to lead off again.

 

Thames- 1B

Yelich- RF

Grandal- C

Braun- LF

Moose- 3B

Hiura- 2B

Gamel- CF

Arcia- SS

Pitcher

Let's do it! Thames is hot! And he loves Cincy!

[BrewCrewBlueDevil]

Gamel LF

Yelich RF

Grandal C

Moose 3B

Thames 1B

Cain CF

Huira 2B

Pitcher

Arcia SS

[BrewCrewBlueDevil]

Gamel LF

Yelich RF

Grandal C

Moose 3B

Thames 1B

Cain CF

Huira 2B

Pitcher

Arcia SS

[TexasCheesehead]

Quick question...

 

So we DFA Hernán Pérez, nobody claimed him within 72 hours and he is still listed on (unreliable I know) Wikipedia as “in the Milwaukee Brewers organiation”, yet I don’t see him on any of our farm rosters. Do we still have him or not?

[Outlander]

Quick question...

 

So we DFA Hernán Pérez, nobody claimed him within 72 hours and he is still listed on (unreliable I know) Wikipedia as “in the Milwaukee Brewers organiation”, yet I don’t see him on any of our farm rosters. Do we still have him or not?

Probably not because in the end Perez can decline staying with the Brewers.

[KeithStone53151]

Mahle has very strong splits against RHB. For sure load up the lefties today.

 

Grandal

Yelich

Moose

Braun/Cain

Thames

Hiura

Gamel

P

Saladino/Arcia

 

This is the lineup. Cain and Saladino playing today.

[pacopete4]

Not playing Braun in Cincy is pretty dumb but continuing to bat Cain in the top half of the lineup is ridiculous. Accountability for some but not all is the Brewers mantra this season.

[BruisedCrew]

Quick question...

 

So we DFA Hernán Pérez, nobody claimed him within 72 hours and he is still listed on (unreliable I know) Wikipedia as “in the Milwaukee Brewers organiation”, yet I don’t see him on any of our farm rosters. Do we still have him or not?

 

I’ll defer to someone who follows these rules more closely, but I think the Brewers have 7 days from the date of the DFA to trade, release, or send Perez outright to the minors. Perez could elect to not accept an assignment to the minors and become a free agent. So, as of today, he still is part of the Brewer organization but he is not on the 40 man Brewers roster or of any of its affiliates. Something will have to happen by the end of the week.

[BruisedCrew]

I wonder if Cain will be going on the DL after today so he can rest and heal up and be ready to return next Friday after the break.

[Oxy]

I don't like the back to back lefties, especially when they won't be pinch hit for (Yelich and Moose). Putting Grandal or Braun or Hiura between them makes the most sense.

 

The best lineup SHOULD be:

Cain

Yelich

Grandal

Moose/Thames

Braun/Hiura

Thames/Moose

Braun/Hiura

Arcia/Saladino

P

 

Yelich, Moose and Thames should be batting 1-3-5 or 2-4-6 in some combination.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

I don't like the back to back lefties, especially when they won't be pinch hit for (Yelich and Moose). Putting Grandal or Braun or Hiura between them makes the most sense.

 

The best lineup SHOULD be:

Cain

Yelich

Grandal

Moose/Thames

Braun/Hiura

Thames/Moose

Braun/Hiura

Arcia/Saladino

P

 

Yelich, Moose and Thames should be batting 1-3-5 or 2-4-6 in some combination.

 

Yelich and Moose are hitting lefty pitchers better than any of our RH batters. If the Reds throw a lefty reliever against them, more power to them.

[willie key]

Im probably the only guy who doesn't get too worked about a lineup. When you come up do your job

 

But....

 

Stop with the pitcher 8th.

[BruisedCrew]

I would put the gimmick of Grandal leading off to rest and put Gamel in the leadoff spot. The problem with the Brewers offense last week was that virtually nobody was hitting (including Yelich and Grandal), not the order in which guys were making out.

 

Putting low percentage hitters like Arcia and Saladino in the ninth spot doesn’t do much either. Having the pitcher come up earlier offsets whatever value there might be.

 

Why is it a gimmick? Because hes not fast? He had the highest OBP on the team outside of Yelich(and Thames slightly). The goal should be...get more guys on base in front of Yelich. Grandal leading off does that.

 

Putting a guy with below average speed in front of your fastest baserunner doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. I want guys on base when Grandal comes up too.

[stoutdude04]

I would put the gimmick of Grandal leading off to rest and put Gamel in the leadoff spot. The problem with the Brewers offense last week was that virtually nobody was hitting (including Yelich and Grandal), not the order in which guys were making out.

 

Putting low percentage hitters like Arcia and Saladino in the ninth spot doesn’t do much either. Having the pitcher come up earlier offsets whatever value there might be.

 

Why is it a gimmick? Because hes not fast? He had the highest OBP on the team outside of Yelich(and Thames slightly). The goal should be...get more guys on base in front of Yelich. Grandal leading off does that.

 

Putting a guy with below average speed in front of your fastest baserunner doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. I want guys on base when Grandal comes up too.

 

How often do you actually think Grandal being in front of Yelich is going to cause Yelich not to get an extra base?

[stoutdude04]

Im probably the only guy who doesn't get too worked about a lineup. When you come up do your job

 

But....

 

Stop with the pitcher 8th.

 

Stats show a pitcher 8th actually scores more runs. However, I'm sure it depends who your 9 hitter is and your 2 hitter.

[adambr2]

Im probably the only guy who doesn't get too worked about a lineup. When you come up do your job

 

But....

 

Stop with the pitcher 8th.

 

Again, there's nothing wrong with the strategy. History and analytics have shown this. Counsell isn't just trying to be cute.

[adambr2]

Im probably the only guy who doesn't get too worked about a lineup. When you come up do your job

 

But....

 

Stop with the pitcher 8th.

 

Stats show a pitcher 8th actually scores more runs. However, I'm sure it depends who your 9 hitter is and your 2 hitter.

 

With having a slugger like Yelich as your 2 hitter it actually makes a lot of sense and theoretically should increase his RBI opportunities. Your 2 hitter comes up just as much but gets the RBI chances of a 3 hitter.

 

Dubon would probably be a great fit as the 9 if he was up. Arcia fits there well.

 

The only time I really disagreed with it is when Ned Yost tried it and clearly had no real fundamental understanding of the point of it. He would bat the pitcher 8th and then still bat Tony Gwynn Jr. 2nd which totally defeated the purpose of the move.