Starting Pitching - 2019 Trade Deadline Edition

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Can someone explain why Wheeler is such a hot guy at the tradeline? His numbers don't scream anything to me...Lots of K's, ok, what else? I realize that ERA isn't the only stat, but 4.71? Seriously?

 

Andy Martino of SNY.tv hears from a rival executive that they "fully expect" the Astros to acquire Zack Wheeler from the Mets.

 

Martino hears from other sources that the Braves, Brewers, Yankees, and Athletics could be among the clubs involved in talks. However, there's a lot of smoke with the Astros at the moment, suggesting that they could indeed be the favorites. The Mets have also discussed trading Noah Syndergaard, but the pricetag will be much higher than Wheeler since he carries another year of team control. Wheeler, an impending free agent, holds a 4.71 ERA and 137/34 K/BB ratio over 124 1/3 innings.

 

Source: Andy Martino on Twitter

 

Jul 30, 2019, 9:47 AM ET

 

There just isn't many decent rental starters available, hence the huge perceived interest in Wheeler. Decent peripherals point to the idea that he's a guy that could improve if he gets out of that trainwreck of a team he's on.

[bill hAll Star]

Can someone explain why Wheeler is such a hot guy at the tradeline? His numbers don't scream anything to me...Lots of K's, ok, what else? I realize that ERA isn't the only stat, but 4.71? Seriously?

 

Andy Martino of SNY.tv hears from a rival executive that they "fully expect" the Astros to acquire Zack Wheeler from the Mets.

 

Martino hears from other sources that the Braves, Brewers, Yankees, and Athletics could be among the clubs involved in talks. However, there's a lot of smoke with the Astros at the moment, suggesting that they could indeed be the favorites. The Mets have also discussed trading Noah Syndergaard, but the pricetag will be much higher than Wheeler since he carries another year of team control. Wheeler, an impending free agent, holds a 4.71 ERA and 137/34 K/BB ratio over 124 1/3 innings.

 

Source: Andy Martino on Twitter

 

Jul 30, 2019, 9:47 AM ET

 

Depends on one's outlook.

 

I think most would agree that he turned a corner in 2018 and put in an excellent season.

 

So what is it in 2019? Is his style doomed in the juiced ball era? LOB%, BABIP, HR/FB, hard hit %, etc. are up.

 

Or is he just unlucky and you're going to get a 3.50 ERA/FIP/xFIP guy? The peripherals suggest his ERA should be a point lower.

 

He's arguably the same pitcher he was last year, the one that did put up good numbers that were legit...it's either luck or the juiced ball hurting him.

[brewmann04]

You know once the Astros get wheeler he turn into a CY just seems to happen with that team.

[Eye Black]

Lets hear some predictions on where the following starting pitchers end up (if anywhere) over the next day....

 

Trevor Bauer, RHP, Cleveland Indians - ?

 

Noah Syndergaard, RHP, New York Mets - ?

 

Madison Bumgarner, LHP, San Francisco Giants - ?

 

Robbie Ray, LHP, Arizona Diamondbacks - ?

 

Zack Greinke, RHP, Arizona Diamondbacks - ?

 

Caleb Smith, LHP, Miami Marlins - ?

 

Matthew Boyd, LHP, Detroit Tigers - ?

 

Mike Minor, LHP, Texas Rangers - ?

 

Zack Wheeler, RHP, New York Mets - ?

 

Tanner Roark, RHP, Cincinnati Reds - ?

[Eye Black]

Here are my predictions...

 

Trevor Bauer, RHP, Cleveland Indians - Not Traded

 

Noah Syndergaard, RHP, New York Mets - Padres

 

Madison Bumgarner, LHP, San Francisco Giants - Braves

 

Robbie Ray, LHP, Arizona Diamondbacks - Yankees

 

Zack Greinke, RHP, Arizona Diamondbacks - Not Traded

 

Caleb Smith, LHP, Miami Marlins - Not Traded

 

Matthew Boyd, LHP, Detroit Tigers - Not Traded

 

Mike Minor, LHP, Texas Rangers - Twins

 

Zack Wheeler, RHP, New York Mets - Astros

 

Tanner Roark, RHP, Cincinnati Reds - Phillies

 

 

I'll predict the Brewers make a late run at acquiring Alex Wood after their top targets don't workout. I do think they'll add a significant bullpen addition of some sort, however.

[pacopete4]

Trevor Bauer, RHP, Cleveland Indians - NO TRADE

 

Noah Syndergaard, RHP, New York Mets - PADRES

 

Madison Bumgarner, LHP, San Francisco Giants - NO TRADE

 

Robbie Ray, LHP, Arizona Diamondbacks - YANKEES

 

Zack Greinke, RHP, Arizona Diamondbacks - NO TRADE

 

Caleb Smith, LHP, Miami Marlins - NO TRADE

 

Matthew Boyd, LHP, Detroit Tigers - NO TRADe

 

Mike Minor, LHP, Texas Rangers - TWINS

 

Zack Wheeler, RHP, New York Mets - ASTROS

 

Tanner Roark, RHP, Cincinnati Reds - ATHLETICS

[bensheeps]

Trevor Bauer, RHP, Cleveland Indians - Stays put

 

Noah Syndergaard, RHP, New York Mets - Padres

 

Madison Bumgarner, LHP, San Francisco Giants - Stays put

 

Robbie Ray, LHP, Arizona Diamondbacks - Yankees

 

Zack Greinke, RHP, Arizona Diamondbacks - Stays put (would love to put Brewers)

 

Caleb Smith, LHP, Miami Marlins - Stays put

 

Matthew Boyd, LHP, Detroit Tigers - Stays put

 

Mike Minor, LHP, Texas Rangers - Brewers

 

Zack Wheeler, RHP, New York Mets - Astros

 

Tanner Roark, RHP, Cincinnati Reds - A's

[Brewcrewin07]

I'm not going to go through the whole list...but I'm calling my shot..one of the above named starters not named Tanner Roark, Caleb Smith or Trevor Bauer, will be a Milwaukee Brewer.

[torts]

Trevor Bauer, RHP, Cleveland Indians - Brewers

 

Noah Syndergaard, RHP, New York Mets - Brewers

 

Madison Bumgarner, LHP, San Francisco Giants - Brewers

 

Robbie Ray, LHP, Arizona Diamondbacks - Brewers

 

Zack Greinke, RHP, Arizona Diamondbacks - Brewers

 

Caleb Smith, LHP, Miami Marlins - Brewers

 

Matthew Boyd, LHP, Detroit Tigers - Brewers

 

Mike Minor, LHP, Texas Rangers - Brewers

 

Zack Wheeler, RHP, New York Mets - Brewers

 

Tanner Roark, RHP, Cincinnati Reds - Brewers

 

imma nail at least one of these

[Eye Black]

Trevor Bauer, RHP, Cleveland Indians - Brewers

 

Noah Syndergaard, RHP, New York Mets - Brewers

 

Madison Bumgarner, LHP, San Francisco Giants - Brewers

 

Robbie Ray, LHP, Arizona Diamondbacks - Brewers

 

Zack Greinke, RHP, Arizona Diamondbacks - Brewers

 

Caleb Smith, LHP, Miami Marlins - Brewers

 

Matthew Boyd, LHP, Detroit Tigers - Brewers

 

Mike Minor, LHP, Texas Rangers - Brewers

 

Zack Wheeler, RHP, New York Mets - Brewers

 

Tanner Roark, RHP, Cincinnati Reds - Brewers

 

imma nail at least one of these

 

The beauty of it is we can just quote which one(s) end up correct and you’ll live on as a BF.net legend. I think you’ve got this whole prediction thing figured out.

[torts]

I Am HighHeat19

[pacopete4]

I Am HighHeat19

 

A few cocktails on a Tuesday morning? Nice...

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

His name really hasn't been brought up, but Aaron Sanchez appears to be back to full health, and brings Ace-type stuff and a pretty high upside. Just turned 27, and is controllable for 2+ seasons. He's a guy that would be a fun one to take a chance on.

[Brewcrewin07]

I'm going to amend my prediction...I will keep the poart the same about the Brewers acquiring one of those listed starters...OR it will be someone not even on that list, and not just a "bit" piece either..An impactful arm. One way or another, I'm betting they WILL have another starter.

[pacopete4]

The more I think of it, Greinke makes a lot of sense if Arizona is tearing it down. If they can make the dollars and cents add up, he would be a great fit for this team.

[Eye Black]

I'm going to amend my prediction...I will keep the poart the same about the Brewers acquiring one of those listed starters...OR it will be someone not even on that list, and not just a "bit" piece either..An impactful arm. One way or another, I'm betting they WILL have another starter.

Well Mike Leake might be on the move before his start tonight.

[JohnBriggs12]

Any interest in Caleb Smith if the Marlins?

 

He took a big step this year, but he has extreme fly-ball tendencies. Thus, he relies on pitching in a cavernous park—Miller would not play to his strengths at all.

 

Caleb Smith has fanned 11 guys per 9 innings. Pitching in Miller Park might not play to his strengths but 14 of the 17 HR he's allowed have been solo HR, and opponents are only slugging .314 with men on base against him. He bears down with men on.

 

I was at the game he pitched at Miller Park in early June. Yelich got him once and Moose twice in that game, all solo shots, but he did get 7 groundball outs in 5 innings.

[Jaylyn]

I'm going to amend my prediction...I will keep the poart the same about the Brewers acquiring one of those listed starters...OR it will be someone not even on that list, and not just a "bit" piece either..An impactful arm. One way or another, I'm betting they WILL have another starter.

Well Mike Leake might be on the move before his start tonight.

Leake would be my target. The Mariners have shown they are more then willing to kick in money in trades and Leake wouldn't cost us a lot prospect wise. The real fun is that the Cards are still paying part of his salary, so acquiring him and have him start against them would really stick in their craw!

[pacopete4]

Mike Leake is not good. If that’s the acquisition I might as well open up my “Sell Mode” topic and let’s get pieces on the move.

[Brewcrewin07]

Mike Leake is not good. If that’s the acquisition I might as well open up my “Sell Mode” topic and let’s get pieces on the move.

 

Thank You! No way to Mike Leake, how is he going to move the needle at all, other than he's a body to fill a spot in the rotation. That's it.

[Jaylyn]

I won't say he's not good, just inconsistent. On July 12, he gave up 8 hits and 7 runs in less than one inning to the Angels. 7 days later a one hit, complete game against the same team.

[Madhawk23]

Mike Leake is not good. If that’s the acquisition I might as well open up my “Sell Mode” topic and let’s get pieces on the move.

 

Thank You! No way to Mike Leake, how is he going to move the needle at all, other than he's a body to fill a spot in the rotation. That's it.

 

Not only that. But, he's a guy you'd have to find a spot for next year at 11M and I think I saw a 5M buyout for him in 2021. Cannot imagine a scenario in which Stearns would be interested in that.

[owbc]

I would rather have Lyles in the rotation than Leake. Look at Leake's home/away splits. He is benefiting from pitcher-friendly conditions in Seattle.

[A Swing and A Drive]

My guesses...

 

Trevor Bauer, RHP, Cleveland Indians - Not Traded

 

Noah Syndergaard, RHP, New York Mets - Not Traded

 

Madison Bumgarner, LHP, San Francisco Giants - Not Traded

 

Robbie Ray, LHP, Arizona Diamondbacks - Yankees

 

Zack Greinke, RHP, Arizona Diamondbacks - Not Traded

 

Caleb Smith, LHP, Miami Marlins - Not Traded

 

Matthew Boyd, LHP, Detroit Tigers - Not Traded

 

Mike Minor, LHP, Texas Rangers - Twins

 

Zack Wheeler, RHP, New York Mets - Astros

 

Tanner Roark, RHP, Cincinnati Reds - Phillies

 

 

On a side note guess, Brewers get Dylan Bundy or Mike Leake plus random bullpen arm.

[pacopete4]

Per Ken Rosenthal:

The #Mets scratched Ervin Santana from his Triple A start today. Syndergaard scheduled to pitch for them in majors tonight. Not known whether two are linked.