2019-06-26: Mariners (Carasiti) at Brewers (Houser) [Brewers lose, 4-2]

[PinaMadness]

Getting back to the game, you can tell LeBlanc is an American League pitcher by his base running.

[mtrebs]

 

Which stud are you targeting and what are you giving up to get him? If it's a true stud, Turang + Lutz + Ray ain't getting it done.

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.fcgi?id=mileywa01&t=p&year=2019. No prospects, only $4.5 mil at the beginning of the season.

 

Yep, this is the move that I hated. We could really use him now. Horrible decision that wasted one of our Yelich years.

[markedman5]

When?

 

I mean look what CC and Greinke did for the Crew...Their rotations were nothing special, but all of a sudden those two come in, and it boosts the whole club in each of those years.

 

Those rotations were better then our current mess ..our starters have a 5.06 era...13th in the NL ...and we aren't emptying the farm to acquire a rental......a year after we traded 4 prospects for Yelich and a bunch more at the deadline last season.

 

When you go into,the season counting on Peralta, Burnes Woodruff, Chacin, Davies, Nelson and Anderson........and most of them pitch horrendously.......and then you pick up Gonzalez to help fill in.....and he gets hurt......you're going to be in big trouble......and that is where we are.......you can't trade your way out of it.

[Eye Black]

Among tonight’s #5 through #9 hitters Orlando Arcia probably has the best “hit for power” tool.

[DuWayne Steurer]

As far as Sabathia goes, the rest of that rotation was pretty average to "meh" except for Sheets. Unless anyone knows of a starter that can come in, pitch every three days and throw a complete game from here to the end of the season, that's not even a comparison worth making.

 

That 2008 rotation wasn't terrible like this one is, it just wasn't good.

 

CC and Greinke didn't make everyone better. They might have pushed starters down a spot in the rotation. But right now we've got absolute garbage from top to bottom in the rotation, except for Woodruff. Unless Stearns somehow trades for Scherzer, STroman, and Bumgarner, it's still a dumpster fire.

[yourout]

Here comes the double play

[jjgott]

 

Yep, this is the move that I hated. We could really use him now. Horrible decision that wasted one of our Yelich years.

 

I think DS got too smart for his own good in thinking that we'd could have a rotation of SPs who only go 4-5 innings and then ride our BP every night like we did in Sept of last year.

 

There is some wisdom in taking out pitchers too early rather than too late, but ideally pitchers should be capable of going 7 innings. We really don't have anyone other than Woodruff who I trust can do that.

[jjgott]

 

When you go into,the season counting on Peralta, Burnes Woodruff, Chacin, Davies, Nelson and Anderson

 

Therein lies the problem.

[Brewcrewin07]

 

Which stud are you targeting and what are you giving up to get him? If it's a true stud, Turang + Lutz + Ray ain't getting it done.

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.fcgi?id=mileywa01&t=p&year=2019. No prospects, only $4.5 mil at the beginning of the season.

 

Yup, huge miss by Stearns there.

[adambr2]

There's nothing wrong with wanting Miley back, but we don't know for certain that he preferred to return here to work with a rookie pitching coach over going to Houston.

 

I have been very critical of Stearns lately, but I think he's done a heck of a good job in free agency. We can only work within the confines of what we can spend, so he has to pick and choose his spots. Can you think of any major misses he has had in free agency at great financial cost? Because I can think of many that others have had (Darvish, Chatwood, Cozart, Cobb) just to name a few, that would have crippled our ability to do more now. Other teams will sign players who will end up doing well there, just the way it is.

 

I see so much revisionist history lately especially on Burnes and Peralta. Very few people weren't excited about them pitching for our rotation this year. We need to look deeper as to why it hasn't worked out, but now that it hasn't, people saying "Well of COURSE we couldn't trust them" after being excited about it coming into the year is a bit of an eye roller (and yes I know that doesn't apply to everyone.

[yourout]

Freddy's about to get dinged.

[pacopete4]

If I’m Miley I go to Houston too.

[Brewcrewin07]

 

Yep, this is the move that I hated. We could really use him now. Horrible decision that wasted one of our Yelich years.

 

I think DS got too smart for his own good in thinking that we'd could have a rotation of SPs who only go 4-5 innings and then ride our BP every night like we did in Sept of last year.

 

There is some wisdom in taking out pitchers too early rather than too late, but ideally pitchers should be capable of going 7 innings. We really don't have anyone other than Woodruff who I trust can do that.

 

 

His problem was going into the season thinking the kids would carry the rotation. That was a huge mistake, and I thought it was pretty obvious before the season started it wasn't going to work. You can't rely on that many young arms and think they will lead you to the promise land. How often does that happen in sports?? 1 of them, maybe. But when 3/5ths of your rotation was young arms(2 of which were absolute $$) in the bullpen last year, that was a recipe for disaster from the get go. That's the kind of thing a non contending club does to get a look at their young arms all year. Not a team that considers themselves legit WS contenders.

[trwi7]

Miley is from Louisiana and lives in Austin in the offseason. If the money is similar, I think I'd rather be close to home.

[Brewcrewin07]

There's nothing wrong with wanting Miley back, but we don't know for certain that he preferred to return here to work with a rookie pitching coach over going to Houston.

 

I have been very critical of Stearns lately, but I think he's done a heck of a good job in free agency. We can only work within the confines of what we can spend, so he has to pick and choose his spots. Can you think of any major misses he has had in free agency at great financial cost? Because I can think of many that others have had (Darvish, Chatwood, Cozart, Cobb) just to name a few, that would have crippled our ability to do more now. Other teams will sign players who will end up doing well there, just the way it is.

 

I see so much revisionist history lately especially on Burnes and Peralta. Very few people weren't excited about them pitching for our rotation this year. We need to look deeper as to why it hasn't worked out, but now that it hasn't, people saying "Well of COURSE we couldn't trust them" after being excited about it coming into the year is a bit of an eye roller (and yes I know that doesn't apply to everyone.

 

I honestly wasn't excited about it...I had a feeling trying them as starters was not going to be successful. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. So many people try to though, and it almost always fails.

[Eye Black]

For as frustrating as this game has been again tonight it is surprisingly still close. They are just a grand slam away from taking the lead... I’ll take it!

[Eye Black]

I always forget that Arcia is sort of slow running down the line.

[folly412]

Ok, that was a sick play by Crawford.

[yourout]

Need to go old school with this guy and move up in the Box

[Lathund]

I always forget that Arcia is sort of slow running down the line.

 

One of the slowest SS in the game. Per statcast he's on par with Vlad Jr, Miguel Sano and Hanley Ramirez. He's fast for a Brewer though, slow team overall.

[markedman5]

There's nothing wrong with wanting Miley back, but we don't know for certain that he preferred to return here to work with a rookie pitching coach over going to Houston.

 

I have been very critical of Stearns lately, but I think he's done a heck of a good job in free agency. We can only work within the confines of what we can spend, so he has to pick and choose his spots. Can you think of any major misses he has had in free agency at great financial cost? Because I can think of many that others have had (Darvish, Chatwood, Cozart, Cobb) just to name a few, that would have crippled our ability to do more now. Other teams will sign players who will end up doing well there, just the way it is.

 

I see so much revisionist history lately especially on Burnes and Peralta. Very few people weren't excited about them pitching for our rotation this year. We need to look deeper as to why it hasn't worked out, but now that it hasn't, people saying "Well of COURSE we couldn't trust them" after being excited about it coming into the year is a bit of an eye roller (and yes I know that doesn't apply to everyone.

 

I was excited about Burnes.....not so much on Peralta.....but I agree....I'm not second guessing too much....it just hasn't worked.....it happens....I thought Burnes was going to be good.....and he was awful......I'm not blaming Stearns at all for that........Hook worked well with all those guys in the minors too.......hard to make sense of why Woodruff has blossomed but nobody else has.

[trwi7]

I feel like Sophia is hearing these players' names for the first time like 95% of the time on these Around the League segments.

[markedman5]

2 perfect innings tonight for Burnes in AAA.......

[folly412]

I honestly wasn't excited about it...I had a feeling trying them as starters was not going to be successful. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. So many people try to though, and it almost always fails.

 

For me it was just a numbers game going with all three as our 2-4 starters to open the season. I had confidence in each individual one, but the probability that all three were going to be successful was very low, especially over an entire season. Not enough depth when the only veteran option was Anderson, coming off being shut down last year then not able to earn a spot this year.

[treego14]

Brewers are not to be taken seriously according to Counsel's Hiura explanation so I am no longer bothered realizing they are going nowhere.

I must have missed this ... what did Counsell say about Hiura?