Sell Mode: Now Buy Mode, We Got Lyles, Pomeranz, Black, and Faria!!

[Brew crew 92]

They aren't going to sell...just no way. As far as waiting until after the Cubs series...I think that's a bit dangerous in that they could REALLY use a starter to take Woodruff's spot in the rotation for that series. I'm not(and I sure as hell hope the Brewers aren't) comfortable, trotting out Aaron Wilkerson or anyone else currently in the organization to make that start in a series that COULD ultimately determine who wins the division. Be nice to have an outside arm by tomorrow at the latest.

 

But it’s likely not going to happen that quickly, just with the vast number of teams that are waiting till after this weekend at the earliest to do anything with any trades. But I’m with you on the buying big, and competing for a title this year and next.

[Mudville9]

I'm all for getting a couple small pieces to see if we can make the WC, but I think it would be a mistake to trade for a big name player this year with Woody out for at least a few weeks. I would much rather keep the farm intact and see where we are next year. Hopefully, Brown, Peralta, Burnes and Ray can bounce back and get us a little more value for a push to the WS. I understand that we could get hot this year, and I get that we could suck next year, I just think our odds are better next year.

[markedman5]

[KeithStone53151]

 

Gotta love all the posturing. GM's will probably start actually talking on July 31st about 3 hours before teh deadline.

[Brewcrewin07]

 

I think this is perfect, IF it's reality...time for Stearns to swoop in on someone under the cover of darkness so to speak and get the guy(s) he wants. Beat everyone else to the punch.

[pacopete4]

 

I think this is perfect, IF it's reality...time for Stearns to swoop in on someone under the cover of darkness so to speak and get the guy(s) he wants. Beat everyone else to the punch.

 

“The price tag remains exorbitant for the available players” but it’s perfect?

[markedman5]

It's perfect if you don't mind overpaying exorbitantly ........

 

 

Considering the current state of the Brewers waiting is fine.......we don't have the farm system to make big deadline trades every season......

 

If the price comes down fine.......then you have something to consider.

[Brewcrewin07]

 

I think this is perfect, IF it's reality...time for Stearns to swoop in on someone under the cover of darkness so to speak and get the guy(s) he wants. Beat everyone else to the punch.

 

“The price tag remains exorbitant for the available players” but it’s perfect?

 

Define exorbitant...that's what I'd like to know. Have a feeling, GM's are all trying to get "discounts" on guys, instead of just paying the price(s) that is required. One man's "exorbitant", is another's "opportunity". You can't expect to pay Walmart prices when guys are worth more than that. Think GM's are just being panzies and the prices are actually fairly reasonable, but they just don't want to pay them.

 

Scared money don't make money.

[pacopete4]

Well, what you think and what it actually is might be very different. If the demand for quality players is high and you are only getting them from a couple of teams, I'd be willing to bet that the prices being asked might be pretty ridiculous. But that is just my opinion towards it. Not much action going on yet so the tweet might have some credibility to it.

[FVBrewerFan]

I think it's as simple as front offices adjusting to the new deadline. This would normally be "kicking the tires" time and there's no room for that this year. So yea, asking prices will be high today. But I expect there will be plenty of activity at the deadline, these borderline teams will wait until the weekend and then decide if they're sellers.

[coolhandluke121]

Unless I'm completely wrong about what the Brewers can get for guys like Grandal, Moustakas, and/or Thames, I couldn't disagree more with the premise that the Brewers should be sellers.

 

They are technically in the wild card game as of today, and have been in the top 5 in the NL for most of the season. They were 29 games above .500 last year and 10 games above .500 the year before, so it's no fluke. They have survived absolutely disastrous seasons by multiple solid to good players. On paper, they arguably have a better roster than they had even last year. Granted, some of the regression is almost certainly going to be persistent (Aguilar, Pina, probably Cain due to age) but by large I think regression to the mean is in their favor.

 

And it's not like they have an obvious guy who they can trade to signal a rebuild, like Braun in 2016 or Greinke in 2012. It was (or in the case of Braun, should have been) an extremely obvious choice to trade those guys for financial reasons, long-term planning, and a good return, but none of those things are issues with Moustakas, Thames, or Grandal - unless I'm completely wrong about the prospects they can get, like I said.

 

Just get a few relievers and roll the dice on guys like Aguilar, Cain, Burnes, Peralta, and Chacin playing better. It's not far-fetched at all, and I'd even say it's more likely than not. It's an easy choice.

[PeaveyFury]

They are technically in the wild card game as of today, and have been in the top 5 in the NL for most of the season.

 

They're a pitching-starved team that just lost their ace who they've ridden to a bunch of wins this year. Hiura, Thames and Braun are nicked up heading into one of the most important weeks of the season thus far. They're going to have to decide whether filling the 3-4 holes they have is worth it, and I won't be shocked if they decide it's not if they drop a bunch of games this week.

[MrTPlush]

Does someone seriously still think we should sell? Seriously? It is not happening. They literally hold a postseason spot right now and just games out of the division.

[coolhandluke121]

They are technically in the wild card game as of today, and have been in the top 5 in the NL for most of the season.

 

They're a pitching-starved team that just lost their ace who they've ridden to a bunch of wins this year. Hiura, Thames and Braun are nicked up heading into one of the most important weeks of the season thus far. They're going to have to decide whether filling the 3-4 holes they have is worth it, and I won't be shocked if they decide it's not if they drop a bunch of games this week.

 

Woodruff hasn't spent any more time as the staff "ace" than Nelson, Davies, Chacin, Guerra, or Anderson have in the past. In fact, he's probably had a shorter stint there than any of those guys did in their best seasons. And Gonzalez has had the best career of any of them. It's a team effort, and all they need is for some of their pitchers to return to serviceable career norms to weather the loss of Woodruff and improve their record. They don't need any of them to return to their career best form.

 

It's annoying to watch them pitch like this, but it's reactionary to dismiss their chances at this point. Especially since they've slumped at least this bad shortly before and after the ASB each of the last two years as well, only to turn it around both times. They'll be fine.

[sveumrules]

The reason we got Moose & Grandal on cheap one year deals in the first place is because both players had soft markets.

 

The draft pick teams didn't want to give up to sign Grandal would have been a 40 FV prospect. I don't see anyone giving us anything better than that now for two months of Yasmani.

 

With the way teams value prospects I don't think two months of Moose gets you anything more than a 40 FV guy either.

 

I'll take two months of competitive baseball & a possible postseason berth over a couple two tree middling prospects.

[Brew crew 92]

The reason we got Moose & Grandal on cheap one year deals in the first place is because both players had soft markets.

 

The draft pick teams didn't want to give up to sign Grandal would have been a 40 FV prospect. I don't see anyone giving us anything better than that now for two months of Yasmani.

 

With the way teams value prospects I don't think two months of Moose gets you anything more than a 40 FV guy either.

 

I'll take two months of competitive baseball & a possible postseason berth over a couple two tree middling prospects.

 

Again, a very logical take, couldn’t agree more. So why not add what we need to fix our biggest holes and become better than competitive and compete for a championship. Can’t we possibly get better prospects than we give up after next year’s season by the trading of Yelich Hader Woodruff Davies Arcia?

[wntrtxn21]

The reason we got Moose & Grandal on cheap one year deals in the first place is because both players had soft markets.

 

The draft pick teams didn't want to give up to sign Grandal would have been a 40 FV prospect. I don't see anyone giving us anything better than that now for two months of Yasmani.

 

With the way teams value prospects I don't think two months of Moose gets you anything more than a 40 FV guy either.

 

I'll take two months of competitive baseball & a possible postseason berth over a couple two tree middling prospects.

 

Again, a very logical take, couldn’t agree more. So why not add what we need to fix our biggest holes and become better than competitive and compete for a championship. Can’t we possibly get better prospects than we give up after next year’s season by the trading of Yelich Hader Woodruff Davies Arcia?

 

Of course by trading those guys you guarantee the Brewers will be the Marlins for the next 3-5 years minimum. Prospects may turn out or may not turn into anything. Will any of them turn into a Woodruff, Hader, or Yellich. Chances are extremely against it.

[mlloyd10]

According to sportsline, brewers have the best odds to trade for Noah if he is traded

[Brew crew 92]

The reason we got Moose & Grandal on cheap one year deals in the first place is because both players had soft markets.

 

The draft pick teams didn't want to give up to sign Grandal would have been a 40 FV prospect. I don't see anyone giving us anything better than that now for two months of Yasmani.

 

With the way teams value prospects I don't think two months of Moose gets you anything more than a 40 FV guy either.

 

I'll take two months of competitive baseball & a possible postseason berth over a couple two tree middling prospects.

 

Again, a very logical take, couldn’t agree more. So why not add what we need to fix our biggest holes and become better than competitive and compete for a championship. Can’t we possibly get better prospects than we give up after next year’s season by the trading of Yelich Hader Woodruff Davies Arcia?

 

Of course by trading those guys you guarantee the Brewers will be the Marlins for the next 3-5 years minimum. Prospects may turn out or may not turn into anything. Will any of them turn into a Woodruff, Hader, or Yellich. Chances are extremely against it.

 

Disagree.

Prospects that we trade can be replaced and then some. I believe Stearns to be as smart or smarter than most of his contemporaries. At worst a 2-3 year retool.

[Brewcrewin07]

Trading yelich and Hader before their contracts are set to expire would be the dumbest moves in the history of baseball..period. Are you going to explain that to the fans?? Good luck with that. Stearns would be the most hated man in the state maybe ever if he did something that stupid.

[brewmann04]

i know ds won't feel like he needs to add a top flight starter just because of Woody injury.

[Brewcrewin07]

i know ds won't feel like he needs to add a top flight starter just because of Woody injury.

 

He should...if he goes with what they have, they will quickly fall out of contention, with a loss in that spot and Chacin's spot almost guaranteed every week.

[Brew crew 92]

Trading yelich and Hader before there contracts are set to expire would be the dumbest moves in the history of baseball..period. Are you going to explain that to the fans?? Good luck with that. Stearns would be the most hated man in the state maybe ever if he did something that stupid.

 

I respectfully disagree.

The fans want a World Series championship. Players come and go. No one player is more important than the actual success of the team. But we’ll see what happens moving forward. Maybe Stearns will keep Yelich all 3 more years because we’re a championship caliber team all of those years. I doubt it, but it’s possible.

[rickh150]

i know ds won't feel like he needs to add a top flight starter just because of Woody injury.

 

He should...if he goes with what they have, they will quickly fall out of contention, with a loss in that spot and Chacin's spot almost guaranteed every week.

 

We needed a starter or TWO before the injury!

[clancyphile]

I'm not in the mood to really sell out side of Ben Gamel (to open room for Grisham) or a couple other folks near the bottom of the 40-man for some lottery tickets.

 

This is a team with excellent offense if Grandal and Moustakas return. There's just a bunch of pitchers who got hurt or were not as effective as hoped, especially in the bullpen.

 

If the Crew can find a bargain to help the pen, great. If not, stand pat. If they start slipping, call up Burnes, call up some of the others, and develop them for the 2020 and 2021 seasons.