2019-06-19: Brewers (Davies) at Padres (Strahm) 2:40 PM CDT [Brewers lose, 8-7 -- Crew blows 7-5 lead in the 7th inning]

[MrTPlush]

Thought Davies was throwing painfully slow today. He has been on a steady decline for what seems to be the 5 start in a row. Though here in the third he is getting up to 88mph or so a bit more consistently than the start of the game.

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/graphs.aspx?playerid=13183&position=P&pitchgraphs=true&statArr=&legend=1&split=base&time=game&start=2017&end=2019&rtype=mult&gt1=15&dStatArray=SI&ymin=&ymax=

[treego14]

Hosmer is cracking Davies' pitches like he is Ty Cobb!

[adambr2]

This lineup is rough after Grandal. Even back to the top with Cain. How can you score enough runs with three dangerous bats? Man. Aguillar not starting again but he's not expendable?

 

They didn't start him against a LHP the other day either. Aguilar is a zero defensive value, positionally limited one trick pony who has been very bad at that one trick this year. If it's gotten to the point where you can't start him against LHP, he doesn't belong on the roster.

[treego14]

The point is this: if we had a better offensive player in the lineup at the top of the order ... we might not be behind now ... we might not be bleeding so much as we are in this west-coast trip.

 

If you think Counsell would have Hiura at the top of the line-up even if here were up right now, I have bridge to sell you. And no, I'm not disagreeing that Hiura shouldn't be up.

He makes a lot more sense than Cain and his .300 OBA.

[brewerfan82]

I really wish we had brought up Hiura so he could've prevented that homer.

 

We would have had a guy on base for Braun's homer if Hiura was batting first or second. Do you understand now?

Ahhh... because Hiura will be replacing Cain or Yelich in the lineup. Got it Everyone would love to have Hiura up, doesn't need to be related to everything that goes bad ever though.

[adambr2]

Davies is throwing batting practice today.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

The point is this: if we had a better offensive player in the lineup at the top of the order ... we might not be behind now ... we might not be bleeding so much as we are in this west-coast trip.

 

If you think Counsell would have Hiura at the top of the line-up even if here were up right now, I have bridge to sell you. And no, I'm not disagreeing that Hiura shouldn't be up.

He makes a lot more sense than Cain and his .300 OBA.

 

If you think that Counsell would ever drop Cain in the lineup, much less for a rookie, I have another bridge for sale

[pacopete4]

Counsell taking a play out of Braun's book and rolling up the pants today trying to get out of this funk.

 

 

BTW, no homer and it should be an out at 3B because Hosmer is a dope.

[KeithStone53151]

What the hank is happening this game? I wonder how the umpires are going to rule this one.

[adambr2]

LOL @ Hosmer. You are making wayyy to much to be a mediocre player to do that.

[treego14]

I don't care what Counsell thinks, actually. Changes need to be made. That is fairly obvious. I'm not saying we should bench Cain. Just move him down in the order until he starts getting on base better.

 

This is not rocket science. But, it is based on probability. Hiura is more likely to get on base than is Cain. He and Cain have proved this all of 2019.

[KeithStone53151]

Hahaha they actually called him out. I thought for sure they would give him 3rd base because the umpires weren't clear.

[adambr2]

I wouldn't have any problem with Hiura batting leadoff when he's up. It will never happen though because managers are big believers in not putting pressure on rookies like that and yadda yadda yadda, but he's probably a better option than Cain right now.

 

I would even be ok with Grandal or even Thames. Just not many great options.

[treego14]

I wouldn't have any problem with Hiura batting leadoff when he's up. It will never happen though because managers are big believers in not putting pressure on rookies like that and yadda yadda yadda, but he's probably a better option than Cain right now.

 

I would even be ok with Grandal or even Thames. Just not many great options.

Amen! Preach it, brother!

[markedman5]

Davies has started to regress to the mean........unfortunately.

 

We are struggling to score on this trip but I think ultimately the lack of good starting pitching is going to cost us a playoff berth.

[markedman5]

I don't care what Counsell thinks, actually. Changes need to be made. That is fairly obvious. I'm not saying we should bench Cain. Just move him down in the order until he starts getting on base better.

 

This is not rocket science. But, it is based on probability. Hiura is more likely to get on base than is Cain. He and Cain have proved this all of 2019.

 

Sample size is too small to draw those conclusions

[pacopete4]

Hiura is more likely to get on base than is Cain. He and Cain have proved this all of 2019.

 

No. No, they haven't. Hiura had a nice stint with us and that is all great and dandy. Hiura looks like he is going to be a nice hitter for us but to just pencil in his production as if it is a certain is pretty foolish.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

I think ultimately the lack of good starting pitching is going to cost us a playoff berth.

 

This is pretty much what a lot of people said last year as well. Whole lot of season left.

[KeithStone53151]

I don't care what Counsell thinks, actually. Changes need to be made. That is fairly obvious. I'm not saying we should bench Cain. Just move him down in the order until he starts getting on base better.

 

This is not rocket science. But, it is based on probability. Hiura is more likely to get on base than is Cain. He and Cain have proved this all of 2019.

 

Sample size is too small to draw those conclusions

 

Disagree completely. Look at his atbats, he doesn't look good at the plate and he's not producing. He's swinging at bad pitches. If we had other guys hitting, I would definitely argue with Cain needing to be moved down. As is, we have 3 guys hitting on this team and they should be in the 2-5 range every night. So right now there's no better option.

[Jopal78]

It’s series like these last 2 which remind me of last year when they lost five straight games to the Pirates last July.

 

The unfortunate aspect is the Cubs have been scuffling where just a couple more wins could have the Brewers Controlling their destiny in the Central

[wildcat83]

This lineup is rough after Grandal. Even back to the top with Cain. How can you score enough runs with three dangerous bats? Man. Aguillar not starting again but he's not expendable?

 

They didn't start him against a LHP the other day either. Aguilar is a zero defensive value, positionally limited one trick pony who has been very bad at that one trick this year. If it's gotten to the point where you can't start him against LHP, he doesn't belong on the roster.

 

This one trick your referring to is positive clubhouse presence correct?

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

It’s series like these last 2 which remind me of last year when they lost five straight games to the Pirates last July.

 

The unfortunate aspect is the Cubs have been scuffling where just a couple more wins could have the Brewers Controlling their destiny in the Central

 

Is it possible to control your own destiny in mid-June?

[adambr2]

Davies has started to regress to the mean........unfortunately.

 

We are struggling to score on this trip but I think ultimately the lack of good starting pitching is going to cost us a playoff berth.

 

He's been pitching way over his head, statistically. He's not a bad pitcher but he's not this sub 3 ERA guy suddenly, he's the same middle to back end of the rotation guy he's always been.

 

I've been waiting for that big "statistical correction" game he's been way overdue for, but he's been able to avoid it so far. He looks pretty bad today, though.

[treego14]

I don't care what Counsell thinks, actually. Changes need to be made. That is fairly obvious. I'm not saying we should bench Cain. Just move him down in the order until he starts getting on base better.

 

This is not rocket science. But, it is based on probability. Hiura is more likely to get on base than is Cain. He and Cain have proved this all of 2019.

 

Sample size is too small to draw those conclusions

So, Hiura's AAA numbers mean nothing? Cain would not hit like Hiura at AAA like Hiura has, either. Hiura is a pure hitter that has proven himself at every level ... Cain is in decline this season.

[pacopete4]

I think ultimately the lack of good starting pitching is going to cost us a playoff berth.

 

This is pretty much what a lot of people said last year as well. Whole lot of season left.

 

I like that you remind people of this on occasion. It wasn't all roses last year. It wasn't going to be this year. It is a marathon of a season. You will beat aces. You will lose to guys making their debut. The Brewers found production from unlikely sources last year and are going to need that to happen again this year. It's not easy to make the postseason. So many things lined up for the Brewers a season ago down the stretch and hopefully, it will happen again.