This year's deadline

[RollieTime]

What about a guy like Brad Keller from Kansas City? I believe they would have him for 4.5 years. Keeps the ball in the ballpark and just turned 24 years old. He walks quite a few guys, but has a lot of room to grow and mature still. He’s an interesting option that I haven’t seen anybody mention yet. Would be nice to have a guy like him to pair with Woodruff in the rotation for a few years.

[mlloyd10]

What about a guy like Brad Keller from Kansas City? I believe they would have him for 4.5 years. Keeps the ball in the ballpark and just turned 24 years old. He walks quite a few guys, but has a lot of room to grow and mature still. He’s an interesting option that I haven’t seen anybody mention yet. Would be nice to have a guy like him to pair with Woodruff in the rotation for a few years.

 

Why would a team like KC trade a 24 year old?

[bill hAll Star]

What about a guy like Brad Keller from Kansas City? I believe they would have him for 4.5 years. Keeps the ball in the ballpark and just turned 24 years old. He walks quite a few guys, but has a lot of room to grow and mature still. He’s an interesting option that I haven’t seen anybody mention yet. Would be nice to have a guy like him to pair with Woodruff in the rotation for a few years.

 

The issue here would be KC would have to be motivated to move him. Maybe they are if they think he's just a middle-of-the-rotation guy but you'd still have to give up someone with arguably a higher ceiling than him.

[Warning Track Power]

Robert Murray

@ByRobertMurray

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30m

The Brewers are aggressively exploring upgrades in the rotation and bullpen. They have talked to many teams, discussing a wide-variety of scenarios. They are hopeful of completing at least a couple trades before the July 31 deadline.

After all the rumors and sitting two days from the deadline, I think I am anticipating the Brewers making 3-4 deals. I think the Brewers won't land the big fish (Syndergaard, Wheeler, etc...) but will land multiple smaller fish in the hopes of catching lightning in a bottle. My anticipated acquisitions, with what I think the costs will be, are:

 

-Danny Duffy from KC: 2 years $30.75m left on his contract. Royals will pick up some of the salary with a prospect like Troy Stokes being sent to KC.

-Dylan Bundy from Baltimore: FA after 2021. I anticipate him costing a little more, someone like Trent Grisham.

-Alex Colome from Chicago: Simply because he's a White Sox reliever and we know we have to get one of those annually. I think cost on him will be high. Corey Ray high.

 

If everything comes together for the rotation, that could be a sexy rotation.

[Brewcrewin07]

Jon Heyman

@JonHeyman

5m

 

 

Brewers and Astros remain engaged on Robbie Ray. Yanks and others also interested

[wntrtxn21]

Am I crazy for adding the recent reports together as a 2+2 scenario? Rosenthal reports earlier yesterday that the Brewers are looking to be creative in adding pitching and willing to deal Moose or Grandal if need be. Later yesterday, reports surface that the Mets are looking for major league talent that can help them win now for Syndergaard? Seems like not a lot of contending teams will want or be in a position to subtract from the major league roster like we apparently are... Am I missing something?

 

 

I think so. But we all have to start looking at things from a far less logical perspective when talking about a potential deal with the Mets.

 

Stroman only makes sense to ME if they want to turn around and flip him for more prospects. They did not pay much for him. They got two guys who aren't great prospects.

 

But I still don't think they'd do a trade that only helps them this year. I think it'd have to be someone under team control through next season at least. Otherwise, them trading Syndergaard for rentals, thereby lessening the prospect haul makes so much less sense.

 

 

I don't want to buy personally, but who says no to Grisham+Burnes+Arcia+another one of our prospects not named Hiura/Turang? Or take it a step further and throw in Dominic Smith and we add Shaw and maybe Turang?

 

IF defense is a big problem for the Mets, I'm trading Burnes as an up and coming young pitcher, I'm not lowering his value to what he's done this year if I'm the Brewers, they get Shaw to man 3rd for the next couple years, they get Arcia as a defensive stalwart, they get Grisham who could be called up today and can actually play OF defense. We get a good young 1B who probably can play LF if you need and I guess you hope Syndergaard goes back to being the type of pitcher he was in 2016.

 

Personally, I want to see what Grisham can actually do, is he really THIS good? But even if you do trade him, at least you're not trading him or any of these guys for a rental. This is the only type of deal that I could get behind. One that costs us, but where we get back controllable young talent.

 

Mets probably want more, but I thing Turang is a really valuable asset and I think his advanced approach will see him in Biloxi by the 2nd half of next year. So if he's going, I'd want a good, young, big-league bat coming back.

 

Burnes' value has taken a huge hit this year compared to last. Maybe you're not lowering his value, but MLB GMs are. Until Burnes can show consistent improvement, his value will remain much lower than last year. Arcia is a below avg. SS. Almost every team in baseball has a SS equal to or better than Arcia. Grisham is doing well. but not even close to a top 100 player.

[wntrtxn21]

Robert Murray

@ByRobertMurray

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30m

The Brewers are aggressively exploring upgrades in the rotation and bullpen. They have talked to many teams, discussing a wide-variety of scenarios. They are hopeful of completing at least a couple trades before the July 31 deadline.

After all the rumors and sitting two days from the deadline, I think I am anticipating the Brewers making 3-4 deals. I think the Brewers won't land the big fish (Syndergaard, Wheeler, etc...) but will land multiple smaller fish in the hopes of catching lightning in a bottle. My anticipated acquisitions, with what I think the costs will be, are:

 

-Danny Duffy from KC: 2 years $30.75m left on his contract. Royals will pick up some of the salary with a prospect like Troy Stokes being sent to KC.

-Dylan Bundy from Baltimore: FA after 2021. I anticipate him costing a little more, someone like Trent Grisham.

-Alex Colome from Chicago: Simply because he's a White Sox reliever and we know we have to get one of those annually. I think cost on him will be high. Corey Ray high.

 

If everything comes together for the rotation, that could be a sexy rotation.

 

What do you see in Dylan Bundy? 5.24 ERA - 5.34 FIP. Last year gave up 41 dingers and 23 already this year. I wouldn't give up Grisham or any other 1/2 way decent prospect for him. Duffy 4.42 ERA - 4.74 FIP 1.5 HRs/9 3+ BBs/9. The Royals would have to pickup at least 2/3 of the contract to make him attractive to Milwaukee. Colome would be real nice, but his contract might make Stearns shy away. $7.35M this year and arby eligible in 2020. He's likely to get a pretty substantial increase which would make him too expensive for the Crew. Maybe flip him in the off season?

[StCroixCtyBrewer]

The problem is that although I love Stearns, he’s backed himself into a corner over the last 12 months. He’s refused time and time again to go out and get the starting rotation help that everybody has been able to see is so desperately needed. He’s made additions that while nice, maybe haven’t been the most pressing and he’s given up good prospects to do it, therefore depleting the farm and now making it hard to get the frontline starter he so desperately needs.

 

By constantly trying to be 3 steps ahead of the curve in how to approach the game, he’s now behind it trying to get a starting pitcher. Every other GM knows that too. It’s an uphill battle now.

 

I still like the guy and think he’s brilliant. I just think in this case he’s outsmarted himself and he may have to resort to trying to catch lighting in a bottle.

[bill hAll Star]

The problem is that although I love Stearns, he’s backed himself into a corner over the last 12 months. He’s refused time and time again to go out and get the starting rotation help that everybody has been able to see is so desperately needed. He’s made additions that while nice, maybe haven’t been the most pressing and he’s given up good prospects to do it, therefore depleting the farm and now making it hard to get the frontline starter he so desperately needs.

 

By constantly trying to be 3 steps ahead of the curve in how to approach the game, he’s now behind it trying to get a starting pitcher. Every other GM knows that too. It’s an uphill battle now.

 

I still like the guy and think he’s brilliant. I just think in this case he’s outsmarted himself and he may have to resort to trying to catch lighting in a bottle.

 

He can go out and do that this offseason.

 

Most teams are not able to recover from losing their best pitcher for 6 weeks, the assumed other young stud failing this year, another young player being forced into being better as a bullpen guy, and 2-3 other injuries to rotation options.

[Fear The Chorizo]

The problem is that although I love Stearns, he’s backed himself into a corner over the last 12 months. He’s refused time and time again to go out and get the starting rotation help that everybody has been able to see is so desperately needed. He’s made additions that while nice, maybe haven’t been the most pressing and he’s given up good prospects to do it, therefore depleting the farm and now making it hard to get the frontline starter he so desperately needs.

 

By constantly trying to be 3 steps ahead of the curve in how to approach the game, he’s now behind it trying to get a starting pitcher. Every other GM knows that too. It’s an uphill battle now.

 

I still like the guy and think he’s brilliant. I just think in this case he’s outsmarted himself and he may have to resort to trying to catch lighting in a bottle.

 

I agree that getting Yelich was a nice addition...

[tmwiese55]

Well, I don't think banking on 3 young pitchers was him trying to outsmart everyone. Small market team, cheap in house young pitching of their own. Yea, that's the model and we all have wanted it for years. He tried that, two of the guys flopped and the other just got hurt. If you wanted you can rip on for poor evaluations or hiring of proper coaches regarding two of those SPs, but it wasn't out of some crazy strategy that led to this. He went with young, highish ceiling prospects and two flopped. Here we are.

[pacopete4]

Well, I don't think banking on 3 young pitchers was him trying to outsmart everyone. Small market team, cheap in house young pitching of their own. Yea, that's the model and we all have wanted it for years. He tried that, two of the guys flopped and the other just got hurt. If you wanted you can rip on for poor evaluations or hiring of proper coaches regarding two of those SPs, but it wasn't out of some crazy strategy that led to this. He went with young, highish ceiling prospects and two flopped. Here we are.

 

This. It was a play he made to FINALLY have an answer for us longer term in our rotation and unfortunately two of them crapped out in that role. Having the ability to look back makes anyone sounds smarter.

[StCroixCtyBrewer]

Well, I don't think banking on 3 young pitchers was him trying to outsmart everyone. Small market team, cheap in house young pitching of their own. Yea, that's the model and we all have wanted it for years. He tried that, two of the guys flopped and the other just got hurt. If you wanted you can rip on for poor evaluations or hiring of proper coaches regarding two of those SPs, but it wasn't out of some crazy strategy that led to this. He went with young, highish ceiling prospects and two flopped. Here we are.

 

I agree with this. But loading up on a bullpen and not getting a starter to have multiple “bullpen games” then allowing DJ to leave could be considered trying to outsmart everyone.

 

Again - everyone seems to be taking this opinion as me not liking Stearns. I do. He knows infinitely more about baseball than I ever will but that doesn’t make him perfect either

[StCroixCtyBrewer]

The problem is that although I love Stearns, he’s backed himself into a corner over the last 12 months. He’s refused time and time again to go out and get the starting rotation help that everybody has been able to see is so desperately needed. He’s made additions that while nice, maybe haven’t been the most pressing and he’s given up good prospects to do it, therefore depleting the farm and now making it hard to get the frontline starter he so desperately needs.

 

By constantly trying to be 3 steps ahead of the curve in how to approach the game, he’s now behind it trying to get a starting pitcher. Every other GM knows that too. It’s an uphill battle now.

 

I still like the guy and think he’s brilliant. I just think in this case he’s outsmarted himself and he may have to resort to trying to catch lighting in a bottle.

 

I agree that getting Yelich was a nice addition...

See “over the last 12 months”

[schmidtac20]

Lol you Stearns complainers are really reaching here.

 

Outside of not retaining Miley (was an obvious mistake) what great starting pitching acquisitions could Stearns have made? The Brewers have not had a good farm system post Yelich trade.

 

last year; Braves got Gausman who has been absolutely terrible this year, Archer = dreadful, Harvey = terrible, Happ = nope.

 

This offseason, all 30 teams stood ground on Keuchel and Stearns brought in Gio whom is having a nice season.

 

He made all the necessary moves to bring them one Jeremy Jeffress pitch (game 2 NLCS) away from likely winning the NLCS in 5 games.

 

Even though Gausman and Happ were good post deadline in 18; I don't think it would've been enough to put them over the Dodgers or (more specifically) the Juggernaut who was Boston last year. We'd still be in the same position this season with injuries and woeful pitching seasons if any of the 4 realistic options above were acquired.

 

The only pieces worth any value in the minor league system snagged us Yelich and Hiura is/was untouchable.

[long ball]

I'm interested in Robbie Ray, Zack Wheeler, and Tanner Roark from a SP perspective. Greinke too... but his no trade clause could complicate things.

 

Before the Woodruff injury I wasn't all that worried about adding a starter. Figured they could piece it together enough and still get a playoff spot. Now that Woodruff is out for ~6 weeks and who knows what's up with Gio... I think they'll need someone in addition to just Lyles.

 

A whole host of relievers would make interesting trade targets. Just make the best deal(s) you can for a reliever.

[TexasCheesehead]

Fan: we need a stud to anchor our rotation

 

Stearns: let’s get lyles! He’s been complete crap this year, last year and all year before but I see something in him!

[TigerUppercut]

Fan: we need a stud to anchor our rotation

 

Stearns: let’s get lyles! He’s been complete crap this year, last year and all year before but I see something in him!

 

I'm confused here. Are you actually insinuating that Stearns would run the team better if he made moves based on what the fans think? If so, what is your tolerance for 40 win seasons?

[Brewcrewin07]

FWIW, in a Robert Murray article today in the Athletic he says Mauricio Dubon is drawing "significant interest".

[Mudville9]

Honestly, I think I'd rather trade Arcia. They might have similar value? ...not sure at this point.

[wallus]

Dubon and Burnes will be traded this deadline. This is your HighHeat news.

[Warning Track Power]

Dubon and Burnes will be traded this deadline. This is your HighHeat news.

I would only deal Burnes if it is for a controllable young-ish starter. The only one who fits the bill for me that is known to be available is Syndergaard and I am even having a hard time with that one.

[Brewcrewin07]

Dubon and Burnes will be traded this deadline. This is your HighHeat news.

I would only deal Burnes if it is for a controllable young-ish starter. The only one who fits the bill for me that is known to be available is Syndergaard and I am even having a hard time with that one.

 

This is why I said earlier today i have a feeling DS is going to pull a rabbit out of his hat and acquire someone that no one even knew was available. Just a hunch.

[mattyo]

Dubon and Burnes will be traded this deadline. This is your HighHeat news.

I would only deal Burnes if it is for a controllable young-ish starter. The only one who fits the bill for me that is known to be available is Syndergaard and I am even having a hard time with that one.

 

Just for clarification, youre having a hard time seeing the value in trading corbin burnes for Thor? or youre having a hard time seeing anyone in their right mind thinking that is a remotely possible scenario?

[Brewcrewin07]

Jon Heyman

@JonHeyman

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3m

D-Backs, who just fell below .500, could have great sale. Ray, Dyson, Ahmed, Peralta, Chafin, Bradley, Jones are among candidates to go. Greinke’s drawn some interest, but with wisely selected 15-team no-trade list, it’s said to be up to him, “for the most part.”

 

Give me a package deal of Robby Ray and Nick Ahmed...can include Dubon or Arcia(in a package), gotta think that would work for the Dbacks. Would LOVE LOVE LOVE to get David Peralta too..at worst, he and Braun could platoon in left