The Farm System

[BrewCrewBlueDevil]

Now that Huira made The Show, who is the next prospect to make their MLB debut?

 

My guess is Tyrone Taylor when an OF hits the DL.

[patrickgpe]

Now that Huira made The Show, who is the next prospect to make their MLB debut?

 

My guess is Tyrone Taylor when an OF hits the DL.

Ray or Dubon

[MrTPlush]

Taylor or Dubon would be solid guesses. As long as we are talking notable guys. Though Taylor, notable, kind of a push. I feel like he should be turning 40 this year. Honestly is there even another notable option.

[Roderick]

Now that Huira made The Show, who is the next prospect to make their MLB debut?

 

My guess is Tyrone Taylor when an OF hits the DL.

Ray or Dubon

 

Ray isn't on the 40 man, so it would have to be something where an OF is out for a long amount of time.

 

I will go with Supak even though he is only in AA. They churn the pitchers enough, he could be up.

[Brew crew 92]

1.) Drew Rasmussen > like K-Rod for the angels, won’t be able to resist bringing him up to fill a need. Initially will use him as multi-inning pen arm(40-50 pitches)3-4 days rest. Potentially an opener too in the playoffs.

 

2.) Miguel Sanchez > quietly having a good year in AAA. He’s been pitching high leverage innings and opening for the missions. CC must like him, pitched him an awful lot in spring training.

 

3.) Angel Perdomo > Command is slowly improving, this is another potential big time weapon from the left side that unlike Claudio can get righty’s out and pitch multi-innings.

 

I went with pitching because I believe Saladino would be up before Dubon and Peréz would play the outfield if injury there.

[jerichoholicninja]

If Perez gets seriously hurt, Dubon. Otherwise it will almost certainly be a pitcher. Couldn't tell you who.

[KeithStone53151]

Troy Stokes is also an option, though I tend to agree it would more likely be Taylor than Stokes. Hard to imagine anyone besides those 2 or Dubon. Possibly Zack Brown or Bubba Derby I suppose.

[HiAndTight]

Taylor or Dubon would be solid guesses. As long as we are talking notable guys. Though Taylor, notable, kind of a push. I feel like he should be turning 40 this year. Honestly is there even another notable option.

 

 

A handful of pitchers. Notable ones? Brown would come to mind.

 

Ray's been absolutely awful in AAA, so hard to imagine them bringing him up and hoping they get much out of him at the big league level.

[wntrtxn21]

Taylor or Dubon would be solid guesses. As long as we are talking notable guys. Though Taylor, notable, kind of a push. I feel like he should be turning 40 this year. Honestly is there even another notable option.

 

 

A handful of pitchers. Notable ones? Brown would come to mind.

 

Ray's been absolutely awful in AAA, so hard to imagine them bringing him up and hoping they get much out of him at the big league level.

 

Taylor too has been bad, although not as bad as Ray. Taylor:.245/.298. Striking out 35% of his ABs. Stokes has been worse. .211/.297 with 20 Ks in 64 PAs. None of them would be a MLB option for the Brewers right now.

[markedman5]

Todd Rosiak

Brewers farm director Tom Flanagan said Corey Ray could miss anywhere from 4-6 weeks with that jammed finger that landed him on the DL again at Class AAA San Antonio.

 

He'd been trying to play through it, but it had gotten to the point where a shutdown made the most sense.

[DHonks]

1.) Drew Rasmussen > like K-Rod for the angels, won’t be able to resist bringing him up to fill a need. Initially will use him as multi-inning pen arm(40-50 pitches)3-4 days rest. Potentially an opener too in the playoffs.

 

Without seeing Rasmussen yet, that’s a tall order. K-Rod has a slider that was the best I had ever seen, and he was throwing straight gas when not many guys did.

[Brew crew 92]

1.) Drew Rasmussen > like K-Rod for the angels, won’t be able to resist bringing him up to fill a need. Initially will use him as multi-inning pen arm(40-50 pitches)3-4 days rest. Potentially an opener too in the playoffs.

 

Without seeing Rasmussen yet, that’s a tall order. K-Rod has a slider that was the best I had ever seen, and he was throwing straight gas when not many guys did.

 

Tall order yes, but he’s already done what no pitcher in baseball has done this year > low A to high A to AA in a little over a month. 96-99 with a plus slider gives him more than just a chance.

[wntrtxn21]

1.) Drew Rasmussen > like K-Rod for the angels, won’t be able to resist bringing him up to fill a need. Initially will use him as multi-inning pen arm(40-50 pitches)3-4 days rest. Potentially an opener too in the playoffs.

 

Without seeing Rasmussen yet, that’s a tall order. K-Rod has a slider that was the best I had ever seen, and he was throwing straight gas when not many guys did.

 

Tall order yes, but he’s already done what no pitcher in baseball has done this year > low A to high A to AA in a little over a month. 96-99 with a plus slider gives him more than just a chance.

 

Rasmussen was originally scheduled to go to high A because of his age (23). He played only one game for Appleton before moving to Carolina. Let's see what he can do at AA and then AAA before letting him face major lg. hitters. Perdomo was doing great at A+ and AA before he went to San Antonio. At AAA he is still striking out a bunch of guys, but he is also allowing a lot of runs (7 in 10 IPs and walking 10). Rasmussen will probably be in San Antonio this year and let's see what he can do there.

[TigerUppercut]

1.) Drew Rasmussen > like K-Rod for the angels, won’t be able to resist bringing him up to fill a need. Initially will use him as multi-inning pen arm(40-50 pitches)3-4 days rest. Potentially an opener too in the playoffs.

 

Without seeing Rasmussen yet, that’s a tall order. K-Rod has a slider that was the best I had ever seen, and he was throwing straight gas when not many guys did.

 

Tall order yes, but he’s already done what no pitcher in baseball has done this year > low A to high A to AA in a little over a month. 96-99 with a plus slider gives him more than just a chance.

 

It gives him the same chance that Corbin Burnes has had this year given they profile almost identically.

[Brew crew 92]

Drew Rasmussen would have been a possible top ten draft pick if not for his injury. We really don’t have a pitcher in our organization that profiles that highly.

 

Perdomo’s first appearance in AAA was his only real bad performance of the year, giving up 5 runs in 2 innings, since then he’s been great again. His command is the only thing keeping him from MKE, and it’s slowly improving.

[JohnBriggs12]

If Perez gets seriously hurt, Dubon. Otherwise it will almost certainly be a pitcher. Couldn't tell you who.

 

Saladino's a better option right now than Dubon. Besides Perez's value is greatly enhanced by his ability to be the 5th outfielder. Dubon has never played there.

[TigerUppercut]

Drew Rasmussen would have been a possible top ten draft pick if not for his injury. We really don’t have a pitcher in our organization that profiles that highly.

 

Perdomo’s first appearance in AAA was his only real bad performance of the year, giving up 5 runs in 2 innings, since then he’s been great again. His command is the only thing keeping him from MKE, and it’s slowly improving.

 

Where you were selected means next to nothing when you start lacing them up. In evaluating a prospect, do you grade draft position or what you see on the field? Is Rasmussen, a guy with almost identical stuff to Burnes and maybe just a tick less, a better prospect than Burnes simply b/c of where he "could" have been drafted if not for injury? That premise seems to fly in the face of the concept of development. There have been many, many top ten picks that have flamed out and never reached their ceiling.....See Corey Ray.

[And That]

Burnes and Rasmussen do not have almost identical stuff. They both throw hard and throw sliders, but that’s about it. Burnes gets much higher spin rates and more cut. Rasmussen has two average to plus offspeed pitches he uses to get outs. Besides the slider, Rasmussen throws a good changeup. Burnes has thrown a changeup in the minors, but not many recently (if any) in the majors. Rasmussen’s change is ahead of Burnes’ curve. Rasmussen doesn’t throw a curve. Rasmussen works better up in the zone. In general, Burnes needs to keep his stuff down.

[wntrtxn21]

Drew Rasmussen would have been a possible top ten draft pick if not for his injury. We really don’t have a pitcher in our organization that profiles that highly.

 

Perdomo’s first appearance in AAA was his only real bad performance of the year, giving up 5 runs in 2 innings, since then he’s been great again. His command is the only thing keeping him from MKE, and it’s slowly improving.

 

Where you were selected means next to nothing when you start lacing them up. In evaluating a prospect, do you grade draft position or what you see on the field? Is Rasmussen, a guy with almost identical stuff to Burnes and maybe just a tick less, a better prospect than Burnes simply b/c of where he "could" have been drafted if not for injury? That premise seems to fly in the face of the concept of development. There have been many, many top ten picks that have flamed out and never reached their ceiling.....See Corey Ray.

 

Perdomo has actually had three bad outings (8 games) at San Antonio. 1.2 IPs/4 Hits/3 BBs/3 ERs. His next game: 2IPs/1 hit/4 BBs/2 ERs. Three games later: 2/3 of an inning/2 hits/2 ERs. He is struggling with his controll, but still striking out a ton of hitters. If he can get his secondary stuff over for strikes, he could be a major help in the bigs.

[Brew crew 92]

Drew Rasmussen would have been a possible top ten draft pick if not for his injury. We really don’t have a pitcher in our organization that profiles that highly.

 

Perdomo’s first appearance in AAA was his only real bad performance of the year, giving up 5 runs in 2 innings, since then he’s been great again. His command is the only thing keeping him from MKE, and it’s slowly improving.

 

Where you were selected means next to nothing when you start lacing them up. In evaluating a prospect, do you grade draft position or what you see on the field? Is Rasmussen, a guy with almost identical stuff to Burnes and maybe just a tick less, a better prospect than Burnes simply b/c of where he "could" have been drafted if not for injury? That premise seems to fly in the face of the concept of development. There have been many, many top ten picks that have flamed out and never reached their ceiling.....See Corey Ray.

 

Perdomo has actually had three bad outings (8 games) at San Antonio. 1.2 IPs/4 Hits/3 BBs/3 ERs. His next game: 2IPs/1 hit/4 BBs/2 ERs. Three games later: 2/3 of an inning/2 hits/2 ERs. He is struggling with his controll, but still striking out a ton of hitters. If he can get his secondary stuff over for strikes, he could be a major help in the bigs.

 

And last night 3 walks in 1.1 innings, so yeah, it’s all about control and command with him. Hopefully he’ll figure it out moving forward.

[Jopal78]

As it turns out it was a pretty weak system before Milwaukee traded many of their minor leaguers away starting in January 2018.

 

Lewis Brinson was the crown jewel of the system when he was shipped out and has struggled to the point; it’s no a legitimate question to wonder if he’s a major league caliber player.

 

Brett Phillips is trending in the wrong direction with his minor league production this year, and despite rebuilding the Royals had enough concern about his game to go out and pick up proven fringe major leaguer Billy Hamilton.

 

Likewise Luis Ortiz is pitching poorly in the Orioles organization and couldn’t pitch his way onto a roster lacking enough legitimate major league arms they had to go out and trade for Dan Strailly (who since flopped as a starter and was shifted to the pen).

 

Ryan Cordell might be the most successful if the prospects that came back to the Brewers for Lucroy. His numbers aren’t good for the White Sox (.678 OPS) but the Sox are at least giving him regular major league at bats.

 

None of this really means too much other than the fact that some Brewer farm hands were overrated by the pundits who follow this stuff closely.

To wit, I’d take the Brewers’ current crop of prospects with a grain of salt. The preceding generation was held in higher regard than the members of the current generation (Hiura non withstanding) and they have really struggled it disappointed since leaving the organization

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

As it turns out it was a pretty weak system before Milwaukee traded many of their minor leaguers away starting in January 2018.

 

Lewis Brinson was the crown jewel of the system when he was shipped out and has struggled to the point; it’s no a legitimate question to wonder if he’s a major league caliber player.

 

Brett Phillips is trending in the wrong direction with his minor league production this year, and despite rebuilding the Royals had enough concern about his game to go out and pick up proven fringe major leaguer Billy Hamilton.

 

Likewise Luis Ortiz is pitching poorly in the Orioles organization and couldn’t pitch his way onto a roster lacking enough legitimate major league arms they had to go out and trade for Dan Strailly (who since flopped as a starter and was shifted to the pen).

 

Ryan Cordell might be the most successful if the prospects that came back to the Brewers for Lucroy. His numbers aren’t good for the White Sox (.678 OPS) but the Sox are at least giving him regular major league at bats.

 

None of this really means too much other than the fact that some Brewer farm hands were overrated by the pundits who follow this stuff closely.

To wit, I’d take the Brewers’ current crop of prospects with a grain of salt. The preceding generation was held in higher regard than the members of the current generation (Hiura non withstanding) and they have really struggled it disappointed since leaving the organization

 

Or perhaps the Brewers strategically traded the right guys. Using their lack of success to say the system is weak is a strawman argument.

[Jopal78]

Or perhaps the Brewers strategically traded the right guys. Using their lack of success to say the system is weak is a strawman argument.

 

Not a straw man argument at all. Of their top 10 prospects before the Yelic trade they swapped off #’s 1,3 5, 6 and 8. That’s 50% of their top ten. So even if they “strategically traded the right guys” it’s still says their farm system isn’t as good as it was hyped to be since Monte Harrison is the only minor leaguer out of the those in the top ten they’ve traded who has flourished.

[NYChez]

Isan Díaz could still be an impact MLBer.

[Fear The Chorizo]

Or perhaps the Brewers strategically traded the right guys. Using their lack of success to say the system is weak is a strawman argument.

 

Not a straw man argument at all. Of their top 10 prospects before the Yelic trade they swapped off #’s 1,3 5, 6 and 8. That’s 50% of their top ten. So even if they “strategically traded the right guys” it’s still says their farm system isn’t as good as it was hyped to be since Monte Harrison is the only minor leaguer out of the those in the top ten they’ve traded who has flourished.

 

Flourished might be laying it on a little thick - Harrison is having a nice AAA in New Orleans to the tune of around an 0.850 OPS...that's good but not elite. Plus he had a disappointing 2018 season at AA - to me, Harrison is more of the flavor of the month former Brewer prospects from the list they traded recently who's at least doing decent enough to project as an everyday MLB-er someday. Overall, that list still looks like a bag of AAAAers even with Harrison looking at least somewhat like the player people were projecting him to become after that 2017 AFL stint.