2019-05-17: Brewers (Chacín) at Braves (Fried) [Brewers lose, 12-8]

[Oxy]

One of the few disagreements I’ve had this year with CC in bringing in Burnes down 3, but the way Fried pitching might as well be 10. Burnes high leverage adrenaline type pitcher, bad decision.

Barnes could have 2, Albers an inning.

 

If that's the case, the guy is going to need to work in high leverage games in San Antonio, because we are trying to get to a World Series here.

[pacopete4]

Back to firing out pitching coach.

[adambr2]

The 'indisputable' requirement seems to be in place just fine anytime we challenge a call.

[timpep]

Angry at CC. Why leave him in this long to give up 2 extra hrs. Worst decision he’s made all year. Barnes should have been in this inning to begin, but certainly before last 2 home runs. I hope he apologizes to burnes and takes responsibility for this debacle.

 

I have to agree at least partially. Leaving a young guy in to get destroyed for 7 runs doesn't help his confidence that's for sure.

 

Also tired of Arcia, just throw the ball and stop trying to be fancy.

 

And another great challenge of a play that was obviously called right the first time.

 

The gap right now between the "good" part of the bullpen and everyone else is just scary right now.

[Oxy]

The gap right now between the "good" part of the bullpen and everyone else is just scary right now.

 

Meh. Along with every other team in MLB. We've whittled the worst part down to Burnes and Barnes, and both are guys who have had at least some success in the past. In Burnes' case he was great in a title run last year and he's young.

[Brew crew 92]

One of the few disagreements I’ve had this year with CC in bringing in Burnes down 3, but the way Fried pitching might as well be 10. Burnes high leverage adrenaline type pitcher, bad decision.

Barnes could have 2, Albers an inning.

 

If that's the case, the guy is going to need to work in high leverage games in San Antonio, because we are trying to get to a World Series here.

 

He was great in a high leverage role last year, and same this year, he’s not a non- high leverage pitcher. Period.

 

Barnes Albers.

[adambr2]

Might as well let Barnes/Perez finish this one and get Barnes right back on a plane to San Antonio after the game.

[TURBO]

How much would Knebel have helped us this year? It's sad.

[adambr2]

How much would Knebel have helped us this year? It's sad.

 

In general? I'm sure a lot. Today? Not at all.

[TURBO]

How much would Knebel have helped us this year? It's sad.

 

In general? I'm sure a lot. Today? Not at all.

 

well...…………………………….DUH!

[Brew crew 92]

Why is Burnes in this game?

 

Jeffress has been moved back to his high leverage spot along with Guerra and Hader. Claudio has his SMOG role (SouthpawMultipleOutGuy). Houser, Albers, Burnes, and Barnes are the candidates to pitch when down or up a lot. Albers and Houser pitched yesterday.

 

It was the perfect Burnes spot and he turned it into the perfect Barnes spot. Woulda been nice if those two could finish the game but I'd imagine Claudio (or Perez) will get those honors.

 

Totally disagree that Burnes clumped with Houser Barnes Albers. Last year s pen performance and even this year’s prior, high leverage.

[folly412]

One of the few disagreements I’ve had this year with CC in bringing in Burnes down 3, but the way Fried pitching might as well be 10. Burnes high leverage adrenaline type pitcher, bad decision.

Barnes could have 2, Albers an inning.

 

If that's the case, the guy is going to need to work in high leverage games in San Antonio, because we are trying to get to a World Series here.

 

Agree. High leverage is earned. Coddling can happen in AAA. Send for Taylor Williams.

[markedman5]

Jimmy Nelson so far tonight

 

4 innings.....no runs.....3 hits 1 walk....6 ks......

[phnxcrew]

This team seemingly

Only prefers

To lose blowouts. Wow.

[Oxy]

I imagine that Barnes will go down for Anderson tomorrow...will be interesting to see how many pitches CC makes him/let's him throw tonight. I'm thinking at least 50 if he's getting outs/throwing strikes.

 

If Burnes is going down instead, then I suppose it's Claudio in the 8th.

[Brew crew 92]

One of the few disagreements I’ve had this year with CC in bringing in Burnes down 3, but the way Fried pitching might as well be 10. Burnes high leverage adrenaline type pitcher, bad decision.

Barnes could have 2, Albers an inning.

 

If that's the case, the guy is going to need to work in high leverage games in San Antonio, because we are trying to get to a World Series here.

 

Agree. High leverage is earned. Coddling can happen in AAA. Send for Taylor Williams.

 

So you want Taylor Williams over Burnes? Really? One bad inning of relief in a game he never should have pitched in. Watch burnes in high leverage situations > totally different pitcher than we saw today. If I were Stearns I’d ask CC what the heck?

[OldSchoolSnapper]

What on Earth happened to the guy. He was a legitimate good option last season.sucks.

[markedman5]

Jimmy now 5 scoreless with 7 ks.....80 pitches 49 strikes

[Brew crew 92]

What on Earth happened to the guy. He was a legitimate good option last season.sucks.

 

Still is a great option. Just should not be pitching in games we trail by 3 that seem like more.

[Oxy]

So you want Taylor Williams over Burnes? Really? One bad inning of relief in a game he never should have pitched in. Watch burnes in high leverage situations > totally different pitcher than we saw today. If I were Stearns I’d ask CC what the heck?

 

I'm not sure why I respond to you, but 0-3 in the 6th isn't mop-up duty. If he can't get the juices flowing in a game like that and he's only good when he gets his shot of adrenaline, the guy is going to have a short career.

 

I don't think he will. I think he'll figure out how to pitch coolly in all situations and end up as a very good starter for us. But right now his role is either middle relief at the MLB level or starting in the minors. 0-3 in the 6th is the very definition of middle relief and when he should be used.

[tomwopat]

Good that CC found a low leverage situation to bring in Burnes, the Brewers bats looking lifeless this evening.

 

If Barnes tops out as a above average mid/high level reliever I think that's neither overly surprising or anything to be ashamed about.

 

What is more surprising to me is that Woodruff has leapfrogged him as pitcher-- he seemed much more the thrower of the two last year.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

What on Earth happened to the guy. He was a legitimate good option last season.sucks.

 

Still is a great option. Just should not be pitching in games we trail by 3 that seem like more.

 

What difference does it make? He should be getting guys out. 7 ER 3 HR is bigger than "it's low leverage." The guy flat out sucks.

 

You make it sound like it was 10-0. It was a game.

[Lathund]

I'm checking out for the night. Games like this happen, but the team has been good recently. Onto tomorrow and sunday to take the series with the more favourable pitching matchups.

[Brew crew 92]

What on Earth happened to the guy. He was a legitimate good option last season.sucks.

 

They have a # 2 type starter in AAA, that’s ready for the big leagues they can’t bring up yet because he’s on 5 days of rest. I think one more start in AAA, with 4 rest days, then to Milwaukee.

[Oxy]

If only Burnes could have held the Braves down for a couple of high leverage innings. Then he'd be in line to get the victory right now....