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Keston Hiura called up, Shaw optioned


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Maybe I missed it, but didn't see this posted yet.

 

From Daren Willman here is Keston Hiura's base hit spray chart from all of his MiLB games...

 

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If there has ever been a player that a shift will not work, he is the guy.

His outfield spray chart is pretty even, but I'm not sure you can make that claim without a spray chart of his infield outs. The infield hits skew heavily to the left side, but that makes sense due to longer throws. It would be nice to have a really good hitter that they have to play straight up.

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Minor league forum, link report, "Hey, SA played early."

Hmmmm, no Hiura today, "lol put on your tin foil hats"

Major league forum

What!

A Joke? Nope. NOPE!

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I logged into the MiLB forum first and checked the link report.

For a few weeks now every time Hiura didn't start I'd say "put on your tinfoil hats" because I felt a number of people were on call up watch. If he's not playing in SA maybe he's getting called up. That was posted nearly every time.

I logged into the MLB forum and saw the call up as the first link.

 

Subsequently freaked out. Thought maybe it was a joke. Saw it wasn't, and freaked out more.

 

And 92, watch it. Just because trading a valuable platoon bat, that we currently need, is a dumb idea doesn't give you the right to start stuff like you are trying above. You don't think Thames is valuable and he's not, but that also won't fetch anything in return. Not only is trading Thames a dumb idea but you also expect back unreasonable return. Compounding the dumb idea. Having a dumb opinion gets blow back and doesn't give you licence to drag flames throughout the whole board.

 

 

Ah got it. I thought you logged in tonight and saw someone else had posted that.

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I don't know if you you'll want to send Hiura down if he his playing 2b and hitting like a RH Ben Gamel.

 

All in all I'm very impressed with how chill he was about the call up. How much of a non-issue he made it. How he looked like he belonged immediately. This wasn't a Brinson Phillips looking kid flailing at the ball. He didn't let many strikes go by without putting his bat on the ball with some pop. Fouled off 2 good pitches in the 1st ab with 2 strikes. Took his walk. Harper made a heck of a play to make a foul ball an out. Then pulled one into the OF. Contact was good, doesn't seem to have a pitch region that bothers him. Doesn't reach beyond the far corner well but its a ball so don't swing at it.

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Below is the link for the FanGraphs call-up article for Keston Hiura. I’ve heard Eric share this hot chocolate story on his podcast before, but is a pretty great indication that Keston truly loves baseball (and yes, I realize how sappy and cliche that sounds)...

 

Called Up: Keston Hiura by Eric Longenhagen

Not just “at Night” anymore.
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Very nice MLB debut by Hiura, 2 hits and a walk, the team could really use his bat in the lineup.

 

After all these years, finally an impact Brewers player of Asian descent for me to root for.

 

Agreed on the first part, Hiura certainly exceeded my expectations for his first start. I was actually hoping that CC would kind of ease him into to playing. No Sir! You're up, you start! He didn't disappoint!

On your second comment, while the term impact can be debated, I really liked Nori Aoki when he was here and thought he made a impact, albeit a short one.

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So are the Brewers going to need to send him down at some point to get another year of pre-arby from him? The talk just recently was that he needed a week or two yet.

 

He was already in AAA long enough that 2019 will not count as a full season of MLB service time.

 

The only uncertainty is if he will qualify for Super Two which would mean four trips through Arbys instead of the standard three.

 

I don't believe we will officially know that until the end of the season though.

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So are the Brewers going to need to send him down at some point to get another year of pre-arby from him? The talk just recently was that he needed a week or two yet.

 

He was already in AAA long enough that 2019 will not count as a full season of MLB service time.

 

The only uncertainty is if he will qualify for Super Two which would mean four trips through Arbys instead of the standard three.

 

I don't believe we will officially know that until the end of the season though.

 

Just extend him. I don't know if he will ever be a great defensive 2b. I don't know if the power will be there to be a superstar. What should be pretty clear is this kids hit tool is pretty impressive and he should be an obp monster. That .408 in SA doesn't look like a fluke and its not that he got on 3 times tonight. It's the ease at which he makes hard contact with the ball and that he is shift proof. If he has power at the MLB level he's a 3 hitter, if not he could be a lead off guy.

 

Just tonight... up the middle, BB, down the RF line, and into LF. I mean... come on.

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Very nice MLB debut by Hiura, 2 hits and a walk, the team could really use his bat in the lineup.

 

After all these years, finally an impact Brewers player of Asian descent for me to root for.

 

Agreed on the first part, Hiura certainly exceeded my expectations for his first start. I was actually hoping that CC would kind of ease him into to playing. No Sir! You're up, you start! He didn't disappoint!

On your second comment, while the term impact can be debated, I really liked Nori Aoki when he was here and thought he made a impact, albeit a short one.

 

Yes I like Aoki a lot too, he was good, but sadly the Brewers traded him. Hiura is different from Aoki and probably better, a first round Brewers draft pick and top prospect, totally homegrown and he's also half Chinese descent.

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Below is the link for the FanGraphs call-up article for Keston Hiura. I’ve heard Eric share this hot chocolate story on his podcast before, but is a pretty great indication that Keston truly loves baseball (and yes, I realize how sappy and cliche that sounds)...

 

Called Up: Keston Hiura by Eric Longenhagen

 

Gotta say I agree with everything Eric wrote.

 

Hiura is a pure hitter who is not likely to be over-matched by MLB pitching.

 

If he has really improved his plate approach and the walk uptick is for real, lookout.

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So are the Brewers going to need to send him down at some point to get another year of pre-arby from him? The talk just recently was that he needed a week or two yet.

 

He was already in AAA long enough that 2019 will not count as a full season of MLB service time.

 

The only uncertainty is if he will qualify for Super Two which would mean four trips through Arbys instead of the standard three.

 

I don't believe we will officially know that until the end of the season though.

You won't officially know that until the end of 2021.

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This is good and intriguing news, but this thread needs a little more adoration. Like this classic from 2008! http://forum.brewerfan.net/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=12972

 

Who else remembers the haiku days of Brewerfan lore? And frequent references to Anchorman? :laughing

 

I'm still mad that three week stretch of mashing Branyan didn't make it onto the season DVD.

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Whole different, less guarded tone today is nice to see. Even if it's only after one game, lol.

 

There have been two posts about Hiura since the end of the game. Also, there is nothing wrong with being guarded.

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Let me start by saying, I'm not expecting Hiura to be a superstar. Just hoping for him to be good. That said, boy did he hit the ball hard twice last night. I haven't watched many highlights of him, so this is the first time really watching his swing. I'd describe it as powerfully quick. I'm kind of taken back by it. The ball seemed to jump off the bat. I'm impressed by the first game and look forward to hopefully many more good games to come.
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So let's say for argument's sake Hiura takes the opportunity and runs with it a la Braun in 2007. Is the most likely scenario Shaw just doesn't get his full time job back? Shaw has to be nervous about having a full time job when he returns from his injury. I am really interested to see how this all plays out, especially if Hiura looks really really good during his time in the big leagues.
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So let's say for argument's sake Hiura takes the opportunity and runs with it a la Braun in 2007. Is the most likely scenario Shaw just doesn't get his full time job back? Shaw has to be nervous about having a full time job when he returns from his injury. I am really interested to see how this all plays out, especially if Hiura looks really really good during his time in the big leagues.

 

I was just thinking about this but in terms of what happens if Shaw starts raking in his minor league rehab stint. He could easily fill in at 1st and steal ABs from Thames, play 2B against the occasional righty, and give Moose a day off here or there. Plus someone is bound to get injured at some point. But if Hiura is hitting then I think Shaw's days as an everyday starter are probably over.

"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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Whole different, less guarded tone today is nice to see. Even if it's only after one game, lol.

 

There have been two posts about Hiura since the end of the game. Also, there is nothing wrong with being guarded.

 

Nothing wrong with getting excited either. We are fans after all.

 

Agree. Feel free to be excited and support Keston. But stop trying to call out people who are being cautious.

"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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So let's say for argument's sake Hiura takes the opportunity and runs with it a la Braun in 2007. Is the most likely scenario Shaw just doesn't get his full time job back? Shaw has to be nervous about having a full time job when he returns from his injury. I am really interested to see how this all plays out, especially if Hiura looks really really good during his time in the big leagues.

 

I'm a believer that injuries will make our depth worthwhile at somepoint, so I think that might work itself out. I think the most likely scenario is that Shaw figures it out and the Brewers include Thames in some sort of June/July deal for a pen arm and Shaw becomes the platoon person at 1B vs. RHP.

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Shaw is too good a hitter to just be dismissed all year. I know a certain someone wanted Thames out right now and a Hiura call-up, which would have been insane with how bad Shaw has been. But with a long-term view Thames is probably the odd man out. There's regression and there is hitting .160, which just seems impossible for Shaw to pull off all year.
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