Keston Hiura called up, Shaw optioned

[JohnBriggs12]

Very small sample alert but Shaw is 3 of 12 with 4 walks since coming up. I think Shaw will at least be serviceable going forward and it won't be clear cut of a switch when Huira comes back to the majors.

 

But the contrast between Shaw and the duo if Moustakas and Yelich is stark. So he's drawn a few walks? After 2 hits his first night back, he's got one since and one RBI. With an opportunity this week to use a 9th hitter, somehow it doesn't make sense to have the 13th arm instead of arguably no worse than the 5th best bat in the system at AAA.

[tmwiese55]

Yea that was the hidden part of sending him down when they did, he can't be called up for the DH this week. But I suppose both pitchers for Hous are RH so you have Gamel, not the worst thing.

[MadScientist]

Very small sample alert but Shaw is 3 of 12 with 4 walks since coming up. I think Shaw will at least be serviceable going forward and it won't be clear cut of a switch when Huira comes back to the majors.

 

But the contrast between Shaw and the duo if Moustakas and Yelich is stark. So he's drawn a few walks? After 2 hits his first night back, he's got one since and one RBI. With an opportunity this week to use a 9th hitter, somehow it doesn't make sense to have the 13th arm instead of arguably no worse than the 5th best bat in the system at AAA.

 

It's only 2 games with a DH, which is arguably better used giving Braun or Grandal or Yelich a partial day off. Also with no pitchers batting there's much less need to pinch hit. Plus with Brewers pitchers facing 9 real batters, having the extra arm is valuable for pen management and playing the match-up game.

 

The Brewers have reliably shown over the last few years that they are better off having that 13th arm on the team.

[FVBrewerFan]

Very small sample alert but Shaw is 3 of 12 with 4 walks since coming up. I think Shaw will at least be serviceable going forward and it won't be clear cut of a switch when Huira comes back to the majors.

 

There's a real chance Shaw can return to form, been saying it all along. BUT, I don't see where he's going to play to prove it. Moose (and Hiura when he comes back up) should play every day. That leaves 1B, where Thames should start every game vs RHP.

 

Rare case where position players are pretty much set across the board. Everyone is productive enough to stay put, and Shaw is simply the odd man out at this point. I say "at this point" because that could obviously change at any time.

[Brew crew 92]

With Hiura destroying AAA pitching, 2 more home runs tonight, and the super 2 safety day fast approaching, I think when that day is here they need to option Shaw and or trade or release Aguilar. They need Hiura’s bat back in the lineup.

[TigerUppercut]

With Hiura destroying AAA pitching, 2 more home runs tonight, and the super 2 safety day fast approaching, I think when that day is here they need to option Shaw and or trade or release Aguilar. They need Hiura’s bat back in the lineup.

 

Do they need it or do you just want to see it? They've averaged 5.25 runs per game since he was sent down.

[Brew crew 92]

With Hiura destroying AAA pitching, 2 more home runs tonight, and the super 2 safety day fast approaching, I think when that day is here they need to option Shaw and or trade or release Aguilar. They need Hiura’s bat back in the lineup.

 

Do they need it or do you just want to see it? They've averaged 5.25 runs per game since he was sent down.

 

With no help from Shaw or Aguilar, and Hiura’s a better bat in the lineup than either one of them.

[homer]

With Hiura destroying AAA pitching, 2 more home runs tonight, and the super 2 safety day fast approaching, I think when that day is here they need to option Shaw and or trade or release Aguilar. They need Hiura’s bat back in the lineup.

 

I think when/if he comes up for good one of those two things will happen.

[FVBrewerFan]

With Hiura destroying AAA pitching, 2 more home runs tonight, and the super 2 safety day fast approaching, I think when that day is here they need to option Shaw and or trade or release Aguilar. They need Hiura’s bat back in the lineup.

 

I think when/if he comes up for good one of those two things will happen.

 

Or another questionable IL stint for one of them to buy a little time. But yea, long term this season if everyone is healthy Shaw has no role on the 25. Aguilar has RH hitter going for him, but that alone will only keep him around until the All star break.

[adambr2]

It's entirely possible that Shaw's 2019 will end up mostly in San Antonio trying to figure it out before starting fresh next year. His past track record certainly states a case for some time to figure it out, but it isn't enough to guarantee him anything. I wouldn't have thought Domingo Santana would have spent a great portion of 2018 in AAA after his 2017 season, but that's exactly what happened. Things change.

 

Unfortunately that is not an option we have with Aguilar. I am surprised they have not tried to go the phantom injury followed by an extended rehab assignment route.

 

That makes Aguilar's performance all the more troublesome really, knowing he is almost certainly 100% healthy. Surely they would have used anything down to a hangnail as an excuse to give him some time on the IL by now.

[Roderick]

With Hiura destroying AAA pitching, 2 more home runs tonight, and the super 2 safety day fast approaching, I think when that day is here they need to option Shaw and or trade or release Aguilar. They need Hiura’s bat back in the lineup.

 

Do they need it or do you just want to see it? They've averaged 5.25 runs per game since he was sent down.

 

Yeah, and there are more runs scored in the game this year with the juiced ball.

 

So we can score 5, maybe we need to score 6. Even if it is not to win a game 6-5 - if you are ahead 6-2, you can use the dregs of the bullpen. It is a huge bonus to give Hader, Guerra, Jeffress a day off.

[MrTPlush]

I am surprised they have not tried to go the phantom injury followed by an extended rehab assignment route.

 

Probably a good sign the Brewers don't use fake injuries all the time like some assume.

 

Though they don't exactly have an obvious RHB to be the other side of a Thames platoon.

 

They don't even have a 1B in AAA. The roster shows no one as a 1B....Tyler Saladino was starting there last night and has 11 starts there. I think Jake Hager (who never started there before this year) is the "main" 1B with 25 starts there. It is almost like a whoever volunteers that day.

[patrickgpe]

With Hiura destroying AAA pitching, 2 more home runs tonight, and the super 2 safety day fast approaching, I think when that day is here they need to option Shaw and or trade or release Aguilar. They need Hiura’s bat back in the lineup.

 

Do they need it or do you just want to see it? They've averaged 5.25 runs per game since he was sent down.

 

yeah respectively this argument is weak. I'm ready to pull the plug on Jesus, move moose to 1st and hope Shaw gets it together.

[adambr2]

With Hiura destroying AAA pitching, 2 more home runs tonight, and the super 2 safety day fast approaching, I think when that day is here they need to option Shaw and or trade or release Aguilar. They need Hiura’s bat back in the lineup.

 

Do they need it or do you just want to see it? They've averaged 5.25 runs per game since he was sent down.

 

yeah respectively this argument is weak. I'm ready to pull the plug on Jesus, move moose to 1st and hope Shaw gets it together.

 

How does this help? Thames isn't the problem here. They need a righty 1B, not a lefty. And Moose has played 35 career innings at 1B, I doubt he would be moved there in the middle of the season. Far more likely in this proposal that Shaw goes back to his original position at 1B and Moose goes back to his original position at 3B.

[Fear The Chorizo]

Hiura needs to be up after the AS break. Getting him up helps clear the logjam at 1b simply by forcing the brewers to jettison someone

 

And I think they should go outside the box a bit by trying to get Aguilar through waivers by dfa-ing him, keep both shaw and Thames, and shift braun over to 1st when facing a lefty starter.

 

Are there any corner OF options via trade this year that could be good gets?

[Brew crew 92]

Hiura needs to be up after the AS break. Getting him up helps clear the logjam at 1b simply by forcing the brewers to jettison someone

 

And I think they should go outside the box a bit by trying to get Aguilar through waivers by dfa-ing him, keep both shaw and Thames, and shift braun over to 1st when facing a lefty starter.

 

Are there any corner OF options via trade this year that could be good gets?

 

Melky Cabrera would be my choice, not a great defender but can he hit. This offense can use a .300 hitter who doesn’t K. Sticking with the Pirates, Corey Dickerson, little more expensive, been injured, but had a good year last year.

[patrickgpe]

How does this help? Thames isn't the problem here. They need a righty 1B, not a lefty. And Moose has played 35 career innings at 1B, I doubt he would be moved there in the middle of the season. Far more likely in this proposal that Shaw goes back to his original position at 1B and Moose goes back to his original position at 3B.

 

thats fine too. My point is that Aguilar has been pretty bad since the All star break last season, which is enough sample size for me. He is batting 193 since the all star break and has 15 HR's and 62 RBI's. He should be the one to go to make room for Keston.

[adambr2]

I think we are trying to get away from bad OF defense. If we wanted a good OF bat and were willing to sacrifice defense I think we would have just stuck with Santana. Melky is a pretty bad defender, really don't want him in there every day.

 

A lot of the proposals I see just seem like moves for the sake of moves to me without moving the needle much. We certainly aren't a struggling offense that needs to shake things up or anything. Many of our improvements offensively will hopefully come from within from guys like Shaw and Hiura.

[willie key]

Shaw is awesome. We need to sign him long term and break the bank.

 

I don't think Hiura should ever get called up from Triple AAA in his career.

 

I mean what else do you need to see.

[adambr2]

Shaw is awesome. We need to sign him long term and break the bank.

 

I don't think Hiura should ever get called up from Triple AAA in his career.

 

I mean what else do you need to see.

 

What does this mean? No one has said anything remotely close to either of these things.

[Brew crew 92]

I think we are trying to get away from bad OF defense. If we wanted a good OF bat and were willing to sacrifice defense I think we would have just stuck with Santana. Melky is a pretty bad defender, really don't want him in there every day.

 

A lot of the proposals I see just seem like moves for the sake of moves to me without moving the needle much. We certainly aren't a struggling offense that needs to shake things up or anything. Many of our improvements offensively will hopefully come from within from guys like Shaw and Hiura.

 

Hiura will improve the offense, but we have 6 weeks max to form our final team(outside of internal call-ups) and should be looking hard at solving the Shaw/Aguilar black holes. Imo this team can SUBSTANTIALLY improve its run scoring capabilities vs the good pitching it will hit against in the playoffs, and that offense will be less expensive to acquire PROSPECT wise than pitching at the deadline. Bats that can hit good pitching wins championships. Boston Houston Cubbies last 3 champions had great hitting.

[SRB]

It's always hard to give up on a guy, but Aguilar needs to go given that we are locked in a division race. We could still probably trade him to an optimistic team in rebuild mode and get a fringe prospect in return. I'm more confident in Shaw turning things around long-term, and it is a more logical roster construction.

 

vs. RHP

 

1B - Thames

2B - Hiura

3B - Moustakas

 

bench bat for LHRP: Gamel, Perez (SS/2B/3B)

 

vs. LHP

 

1B - Moustakas

2B - Hiura

3B - Perez

 

bench bat for RHRP: Shaw (3B/2B/1B), Gamel

[Eye Black]

I miss Keston.

[JohnBriggs12]

Shaw looks totally lost to me and despite his protestations I don't think he's close. Aguilar's issue is he let his weight get a little out of hand and it's affecting his swing, but his timing looks okay to me. He's just a fraction away from barreling balls up.

 

Hiura needs to be up now, not in a month. Shaw needs to be given the same treatment given Santana last year. Send him down and forget he's there for a while and then move him for something of value in the winter. Let another team take a risk that he'll return to his 17-18 form. They have LH thunder in their lineup without Shaw. If need be they can always go out and pick up Neil Walker.

[brewers888]

This team needs Hiura to balance out the lineup. We currently don't have a real threat from the right side and we will need that to beat Chicago and LA who both have a lot of lefties.