Keston Hiura called up, Shaw optioned

[True Blue Brew Crew]

Facing a tough lefty today so obviously RH bats are a priority and what do we wind up with? Hernan Perez batting cleanup. The absurdity of Keston Hiura being in AAA right now.

[pacopete4]

Facing a tough lefty today so obviously RH bats are a priority and what do we wind up with? Hernan Perez batting cleanup. The absurdity of Keston Hiura being in AAA right now.

 

Yes. I cannot believe they would put a guy slashing .311/.354/.600/.954 against LHP this year in the 4-hole. Crazy!

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Facing a tough lefty today so obviously RH bats are a priority and what do we wind up with? Hernan Perez batting cleanup. The absurdity of Keston Hiura being in AAA right now.

 

Yes. I cannot believe they would put a guy slashing .311/.354/.600/.954 against LHP this year in the 4-hole. Crazy!

 

Never let stats get in the they way of agendas! You know the rules!

[True Blue Brew Crew]

Agenda and stats you say.

 

Hernan Perez is a career .276 avg, .298 obp, .754 ops hitter vs LHP. Living in small samples is not the place to reside if you're going to throw stats around. Last place teams throw hitters with those kind of career splits in the 4-hole.

 

Ask yourself if you think Hernan Perez is suddenly going to be a cleanup-calibur hitter and will find himself batting there vs lefties going forward. You already know the answer.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Agenda and stats you say.

 

Hernan Perez is a career .276 avg, .298 obp, .754 ops hitter vs LHP. Living in small samples is not the place to reside if you're going to throw stats around. Last place teams throw hitters with those kind of career splits in the 4-hole.

 

Ask yourself if you think Hernan Perez is suddenly going to be a cleanup-calibur hitter and will find himself batting there vs lefties going forward. You already know the answer.

 

Long term, no, absolutely not. For today, sure. The offense has been trash the last two days with "traditional" types in the 4-hole. Why not shake things up a bit? At this point, it can't hurt.

[True Blue Brew Crew]

It would be excusable if this was brought on by injuries. Perez is batting 4th because the team's best RH bat is in AAA for no good reason. Jacob Barnes being in Milwaukee and Hiura in San Antonio is the problem.

[pacopete4]

Using one game to mold you mood on this is a bad take IMO. He's hot against lefties. So they are placing him in the 4-hole. It's not a bad move. Hiura isn't with us. It'll be a while before he is. I almost wish they never brought him up in the first place so people weren't so crazy about this.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

It would be excusable if this was brought on by injuries. Perez is batting 4th because the team's best RH bat is in AAA for no good reason. Jacob Barnes being in Milwaukee and Hiura in San Antonio is the problem.

 

If I were making the decisions, I would have gone with a 12-man staff and optioned Barnes or Burnes to AAA. But I'm not, and they made the roster decision they did for a reason. It's done ... and continuing to harp on it is pretty much just sour grapes at this point. All we can do as fans is hope Shaw finds his bat, and Hiura mashes his way back up to Milwaukee before the end of June.

[SeaBass]

17 games. Best right handed bat. Future hall of famer. Messiah. The future is immeasurable.

[tmwiese55]

He's batting 4th because our All Star 1B from last year has been terrible. If we want no small samples I guess Jesus should be 4th since he has the larger sample of being good vs lefties.

 

One side of the mouth is saying Perez is small sample Bs while pushing 17 game small sample out the other side of the mouth.

[True Blue Brew Crew]

17 games. Best right handed bat. Future hall of famer. Messiah. The future is immeasurable.

 

Name the RH batter on the team who you think is better right now. It's more a statement of how bad the state of the team's RH batting is than a statement of how good Hiura is yet. I do believe he's going to be an elite bat but it's not a high bar to be the best RH in the Brewers organization right now. All the more reason why he should be in Milwaukee.

[pacopete4]

17 games. Best right handed bat. Future hall of famer. Messiah. The future is immeasurable.

 

Name the RH batter on the team who you think is better right now. It's more a statement of how bad the state of the team's RH batting is than a statement of how good Hiura is yet. I do believe he's going to be an elite bat but it's not a high bar to be the best RH in the Brewers organization right now. All the more reason why he should be in Milwaukee.

 

Ryan Braun.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

17 games. Best right handed bat. Future hall of famer. Messiah. The future is immeasurable.

 

Name the RH batter on the team who you think is better right now. It's more a statement of how bad the state of the team's RH batting is than a statement of how good Hiura is yet. I do believe he's going to be an elite bat but it's not a high bar to be the best RH in the Brewers organization right now. All the more reason why he should be in Milwaukee.

 

Ryan Braun.

 

Agreed ... Braun has been solid all year, and has been mashing lately. That's why he's in the #3 hole today.

[tmwiese55]

And since we're against small samples like Perez, then Cain is better too. I mean, I can't wait until Hiura is back up in a few weeks too but ya'll need to relax a bit, take a deep breath.

[brewerfan82]

17 games. Best right handed bat. Future hall of famer. Messiah. The future is immeasurable.

 

Name the RH batter on the team who you think is better right now. It's more a statement of how bad the state of the team's RH batting is than a statement of how good Hiura is yet. I do believe he's going to be an elite bat but it's not a high bar to be the best RH in the Brewers organization right now. All the more reason why he should be in Milwaukee.

I presume your actual concern isn't our RH bats, but our batting against LHP? I think plenty of guys are doing just fine in that department:

 

[TURBO]

Brewers 2B prospect Keston Hiura went 2-for-4 with a double and a walk with three runs scored for Triple-A San Antonio on Wednesday.

 

Hiura's double is the 13th for Hiura in 38 games with the Missions. The 22-year-old was playing in his first game since being sent down to Triple-A, and unsurprisingly, it went well. The second baseman has a 1.114 OPS in the Pacific Coast League to go along with his .865 mark he put up with the Brewers or 17 games. He should be up again relatively soon, and if you have the room, he's still worth stashing at this point in the season.

 

Jun 6, 2019, 9:12 AM ET

[pacopete4]

Agenda and stats you say.

 

Hernan Perez is a career .276 avg, .298 obp, .754 ops hitter vs LHP. Living in small samples is not the place to reside if you're going to throw stats around. Last place teams throw hitters with those kind of career splits in the 4-hole.

 

Ask yourself if you think Hernan Perez is suddenly going to be a cleanup-calibur hitter and will find himself batting there vs lefties going forward. You already know the answer.

 

Brewers vs. RHP: .249/.329/.444/.773

Brewers vs. LHP: .250/.328/.454/.782

[SeaBass]

17 games. Best right handed bat. Future hall of famer. Messiah. The future is immeasurable.

 

Name the RH batter on the team who you think is better right now. It's more a statement of how bad the state of the team's RH batting is than a statement of how good Hiura is yet. I do believe he's going to be an elite bat but it's not a high bar to be the best RH in the Brewers organization right now. All the more reason why he should be in Milwaukee.

I'm sorry, really. My reaction was more general than the issue you brought up. I usually am able to stop myself from posting stuff like this but this thread is challenging me.

 

Hiura is one guy. I feel we need to get past this thought that the season will be crap without him. For however long they'll be without him because I think he will be called back. It's been 2 games since he was sent back down, and no single batter was going to change the results of those 2 games.

 

Overall I still feel Hiura needs to do more to even surpass Braun as the best RH bat on the team. His time here has not been long enough yet to rank him. Is it reasonable to project him as being the most effective RH bat? Sure I'll concede that, but Cain (slumping I know), Grandal, Arcia have also had success batting from the right side. I also don't think Aguilar is this bad even if he had never broken out to the extent he did last season.

[MrTPlush]

We are two games into the Hiura-less world and he would have made......wait for it....ZERO DIFERENCE. I would expect a meltdown if we were actually losing some close games where Shaw played like trash. Instead who has been playing or not playing on offense has been meaningless because the pitching is hot garbage.

[Outlander]

I definitely would not put Braun ahead of Hiura. He has been okay and if that is the best righty they have then it isn't very good. If Braun is "mashing" now I would like to see the word to describe him when he was actually really good at baseball.

[MrTPlush]

Braun mashing? I think crashing would be a better word to describe his play recently. The last two weeks his OPS is .668 and that isn't some small sample, that is 38 PAs.

 

He has been solid this year, but he has been pretty bad the last few weeks.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Braun mashing? I think crashing would be a better word to describe his play recently. The last two weeks his OPS is .668 and that isn't some small sample, that is 38 PAs.

 

He has been solid this year, but he has been pretty bad the last few weeks.

 

I was looking at his last 30 days.

[Fear The Chorizo]

Keston with another HR last night in AAA, but 3 more Ks...I'm actually hoping he gets a little further away from the 3TO results he's displayed over large portions of this season, even if it means sacrificing a bit of the power #'s - actually 2TO since his walk rate is abysmal in 2019.

 

It's tough to be upset about a guy's AAA #'s when his OPS is solidly over 1.100, however.

[pacopete4]

Doesn’t play good enough defense and strikes out too much. #TravisShawForever

[stalton]

Very small sample alert but Shaw is 3 of 12 with 4 walks since coming up. I think Shaw will at least be serviceable going forward and it won't be clear cut of a switch when Huira comes back to the majors.