Wisconsin Basketball Thread 2019 - 20: BIG TEN CHAMPS & BPI NCAA Champs!

[brewcrewdue80]

Well fwiw Lunardi's bracketology has Wisconsin a 4.

[OldHeidelberg]

Penney, Bryant... my bad...

 

Great win though yesterday. They seemed to have shortened their bench a bit with Wahl and Anderson not playing much. Hopefully they dont tire with the quick turnarounds the next couple weeks

 

Just looking at it from a program perspective it may not be a bad idea for Wahl to redshirt next season . Pritzl leaving will free up some minutes but I would expect at least 2 of Johnny Davis, Carlson, and Bowman to push for rotation spots. It's not like the Badgers to go with a 10-11 man rotation. I do think he has a bright future but he could get buried under all those senior minutes next year.

[pacopete4]

My thinking is if you’re the regular season winner and tournament winner of the best conference or at least one of the best conferences, you should be considered one of the top 8 teams, hence the 2.

[homer]

Well fwiw Lunardi's bracketology has Wisconsin a 4.

 

And I think they were a 4 before the game yesterday.

[areacodes]

I think what will determine the ceiling for the Badgers seed is whether or not the committee will factor in Potter not being eligible in the first half of the season.

[homer]

I think what will determine the ceiling for the Badgers seed is whether or not the committee will factor in Potter not being eligible in the first half of the season.

 

Good point. 16 - 5 since he started playing.

[PeaveyFury]

I think what will determine the ceiling for the Badgers seed is whether or not the committee will factor in Potter not being eligible in the first half of the season.

 

Good point. 16 - 5 since he started playing.

 

I think this really matters in the context of Wisconsin's season. I think Potter playing in the 1st part of the year flips 2-3 games to them. I think they win one, if not both, of their games in New York, and I also think that St. Mary's game doesn't go to OT if he's in there.

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

Yeah, I'd forgotten about the committee being able to adjust seeding based on injuries. That is a really good thought.

 

I wonder if the fact that Potter's ineligibility was an NCAA ruling matters to this, though. I imagine an injury would get the benefit of the doubt if the Badgers were on the 4/5 line. A transfer issue might be looked at more skeptically, though.

[MrTPlush]

While they say injuries are taken into consideration not once have they ever said it actually changed anything (to my knowledge). Usually they get asked about it for a few teams every year and the answer is, no, it did not change how they were seeded. Those players are usually more notable than Potter too. I don't know they can even take into consideration Potter in that same sense anyway. The reality is just one seed difference is so monumental for a team (and the one that then has to get bumped down) it does not seem like something they really want to do.

 

Looking at it Wisconsin is probably a 4 seed if they win one game. If they get bounced by Rutgers/Michigan I could definitely see them dropping to a 5 seed. I think they have to win the Big Ten tourney to have a chance at a 3 seed. They could win the Big Ten tourney and still not get a 3 seed though. Teams like Louisville/Oregon may be favored over Wisconsin if they win their tourneys.

Edited March 9, 2020 by MrTPlush

[tmwiese55]

I think they win the first Rutgers game with Potter too, they got killed on O rebounds due to having no other big guy. At the minimum you have to think 2 games get flipped and that shouldn't be considered homerism, get up to flipping every single close game and sure it's rose colored glasses a bit.

 

What a crazy year, glad to get this title in the bag. I know everyone obsessed on tourney results and for some reason put more stock in making a Sweet 16 than winning a conference but to me it's the opposite. Both tourneys are one game flukefests and your chances of winning (especially the NCAA) is extremely low, winning the regular is a true test and you won and you have that in the bag. Anything else is gravy.

[DuWayne Steurer]

I think it's one thing to say that injuries matter, but then to start saying "If we had this guy, we would have won those games". You still have to play the games with the guys you have, and when you start putting too much weight on hypotheticals, you're basically saying the actual games that were played don't matter as much as the what-if stuff.

 

The Badgers team that's out there right now is definitely better than the team that started the season, but it's still a team that lost 10 games, and lost some games they shouldn't have. I think the committee has a responsibility to look at the entire body of work of a team, even if they weight the latter part of the season more.

[MrTPlush]

I was watching ESPN the other day and it sounds like they do not weigh the end of the season differently anymore. So the Badgers don't get any bonus points for streaking at the end. Similar to how Baylor isn't going to get docked for a sour ending. That is why Baylor is still a one seed these days, their overall resume still blows most teams out of the water.

[DuWayne Steurer]

Badgers ranked 18th. 6 spot jump.

[yourout]

Gard is B10 coach of the year.

 

Pitino is UN-coach of the year.... In my opinion.

 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.buckys5thquarter.com/platform/amp/2020/3/9/21172197/wisconsin-badgers-basketball-greg-gard-b1g-coach-of-the-year-nate-reuvers-dmitrik-trice-all-b1g

[wildcat83]

Nebraska is suiting up two football players for the Big 10 tourney.

[Samurai Bucky]

Nebraska is suiting up two football players for the Big 10 tourney.

Goon squad, baby!!!!!

[stalton]

Nebraska is suiting up two football players for the Big 10 tourney.

Goon squad, baby!!!!!

 

Bash brothers ala Mighty Ducks?

[nate82]

So any games played in Cleveland or Dayton will have no fans at the game.

[bjkrautk]

So any games played in Cleveland or Dayton will have no fans at the game.

 

It's been expanded to the other 49 States, per the most recent update.

 

 

For a Badger fan who was already concerned about the team's ability to shoot the 3 in large arenas (something they have struggled with in Brooklyn this year and has shown up in years prior)...playing in empty stadia only makes that potential problem worse.

 

...not that the decision should be based on the Badgers' performance vs. importance of social distancing for public health. I'm just saying it will not help the team.

[nate82]

Now all NCAA tournament games will be played with no fans. I don't think I am going to watch as many games. It just doesn't have that feeling of a game.

 

 

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/2020-ncaa-tournament-games-to-be-played-without-fans-in-attendance-due-to-threat-of-coronavirus/

[JohnBriggs12]

Now all NCAA tournament games will be played with no fans. I don't think I am going to watch as many games. It just doesn't have that feeling of a game.

 

 

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/2020-ncaa-tournament-games-to-be-played-without-fans-in-attendance-due-to-threat-of-coronavirus/

 

Did I miss something? Is this the Black Plague or a virus? Overreactions like this just raise the level of panic. March Madness indeed.

 

I'm a 67 year old but with no serious underlying health issues. Almost all of the deaths from this virus have been to elderly (average age 81) people with severe medical conditions. How does this make them safer?

Edited March 11, 2020 by JohnBriggs12

[MrTPlush]

Gross, just gross. I seriously hope the conferences start blocking fans from going. I’m just imagining teams having an awkward/terrible night because they are playing a game in an empty arena for the first time. Hope teams can get some practice in their conference tourneys, but doubt it happens.

 

I will watch until my team is out and then I won’t care...just won’t be the same and I’m certainly not that excited for it now. For the record I understand why they are doing it, just sucks...and will suck when it likely changes the MLB games too.

 

Rumor has it they could even cancel the entire thing.

[owbc]

Now all NCAA tournament games will be played with no fans. I don't think I am going to watch as many games. It just doesn't have that feeling of a game.

 

 

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/2020-ncaa-tournament-games-to-be-played-without-fans-in-attendance-due-to-threat-of-coronavirus/

 

Did I miss something? Is this the Black Plague or a virus? Overreactions like this just raise the level of panic. March Madness indeed.

 

I'm a 67 year old but with no serious underlying health issues. Almost all of the deaths from this virus have been to elderly (average age 81) people with severe medical conditions. How does this make them safer?

 

More people will die if they don't have access to medical resources, which will happen if the system gets overwhelmed like it is in Italy. Anything that can be done to slow the spread now will make a huge difference.

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

My reaction to no fans at the games is pretty simple:

 

Good.

 

This is an economic and entertainment hit, and it probably makes the country at least marginally safer. Big gatherings are drivers of epidemics, and the downside is pretty minor when you consider the other side of the equation is public health.

 

Look, basketball games get played in nearly empty arenas all the time. Maybe the men will finally see what most women's teams have to deal with on a nightly basis. It's still basketball. In fact, it's basketball before it got to be a main event instead of a fun distraction.

 

I am going to put it bluntly: In my opinion, the best stuff of the NCAA tournament has nothing to do with spectator noise. If you need to hear other people getting excited to let you know to get excited when a 14 seed hits a game-winning three, then it isn't really about basketball at all.

[yourout]

Some sobering numbers.

 

Current reported R0 from China is 2.2 which is likely quite a bit low due to large numbers of untested likely mildly symptomatic cases. Real number is likely above 3 which means for every person infected they will pass it to three people.

This means it is highly contagious.

 

The current reported mortality rate is 3.4% which is likely higher than actual due to the lack of testing.

 

If this thing is not gotten ahead of the u.s. population of 300 million would likely mean roughly a 50% infection rate and 150 million infected people and the death of 3 million.

 

The mortality rate of people over 70 who are aquire it likely be above 10%.

 

One of my businesses represents an Italian line of equipment and I have been messaging the company and the emergency rooms are overwhelmed and are basically going on triage protocols.

 

Believe me when I say it is not possible to overreact to this.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/02/04/researchers-say-the-coronavirus-may-be-more-contagious-than-current-data-shows.html