Peralta returns to the rotation this week?

[TURBO]

Freddy Peralta (shoulder) will rejoin the Brewers' rotation later this week.

 

The team hasn't decided which day he'll return or who he will replace, although sending Chase Anderson back to the bullpen is a possibility. Peralta has been up and down this season with a 7.13 ERA over four starts.

 

Source: Adam McCalvy on Twitter

Apr 29, 2019, 4:20 PM

 

 

I'm not sure I agree with demoting Anderson at this point.

[Warning Track Power]

I don't think you move Chacin, Davies or Gio. The only ones who should be considered are Woodruff and Anderson and Woodruff just pitched maybe his best game of the season. Maybe go with a 6 man rotation?

[JohnBriggs12]

I agree. Anderson is best suited starting. Unless the idea is to free up Woodruff to be a late inning high leverage guy, I'd leave the rotation as is for now.

[MrTPlush]

It is either Gio or Anderson. Either we signed Gio to be in this flip flop role or Anderson is getting booted.

 

Chacin - Obviously no

Davies - Also quite obvious

Woodruff - Why replace a young shaky starter for another?

Gio - Really doubt he got signed to be in this role

Anderson - Cause results just don’t matter sometimes.

 

I think removing Anderson would be just dumb, Gio I wouldn’t care, and Woodruff I’d complain they are picking the wrong young guy...but is what it is.

[clancyphile]

The bullpen clearly needs the help, and Chase can be an option.

 

Peralta may be an option as well, and perhaps his fastball-heavy pitch mix is better suited there for this season.

[crossface21]

I don't think it'll be Gio. One of the reasons he picked to sign with the Brewers over the Mets is that the Brewers said he would be a starter. I don't see them going back on their word after only 1-2 starts.

[TURBO]

If I made the decisions, Peralta would go to the bullpen. He has been an inconsistent train wreck. make him earn a starting gig back.

 

Anderson has done his job in the rotation, why change anything until it needs changing?

[FVBrewerFan]

If I made the decisions, Peralta would go to the bullpen. He has been an inconsistent train wreck. make him earn a starting gig back.

 

Anderson has done his job in the rotation, why change anything until it needs changing?

 

Inconsistent train wreck, sounds like just the kind of guy you would want in the bullpen. As a huge Peralta supporter, even I dont think he should rejoin the rotation right now. He should take the Burnes route, go down to SA and figure some things out.

 

Honestly, the rotation is starting to stabilize. I wouldnt mess with that until its necessary.

[rickh150]

The rotation has more guys waiting in the wings, especially with Gio here. Burnes, Peralta, and Nelson are all possibles to be in the rotation before school lets out. The bullpen? Less.

 

I think Woodruff in the bullpen makes the most sense right now. They need someone to pitch meaningful innings in the 6th, 7th, and 8th to set limited roles in the pen. Now, every late lead game is a question mark of who pitches when, will Hader HAVE to pitch, and why is Claudio in there again.

 

Just bite the bullet with Woody this season. He has experience in the pen and he was light out throwing 98 mph cheese in the playoffs. He can still be a starter next season or the season after. We need better options in the pen yesterday.

[Fear The Chorizo]

I think this is another indicator they may be setting up for one or even multiple rotation spots to be manned by piggybacking starters. Give Gio the first 5+ IP, then have Peralta finish the game. It would rest your thin bullpen and not overexpose starters, either.

 

They seemingly have a ton of interchangeable starters with some innings limits and a dearth of quality bullpen depth - why not get unconventional and take advantage of it.

[TJseven7]

Teams in a rough spot of sorts. 3 kids you want to groom for a MLB starter gig, but you are trying to win now. Every starter we expected to pitch well has been rough. Every guy we stopped expecting QSs out of (davies anderson) are pulling a Miley season.

 

Gio is Gio, he can be a consistent 4.0 guy.

Davies you can't touch right now because he's pitching like our ace and is in a groove.

Anderson in the pen has been worse than Anderson in the rotation. He's 2 ER in 9.2 in his 2 starts.

Woody is the only kid with a FIP that says his ERA is a lie. He's the most diverse of the 3. He's the one who is ready to cut his teeth as a MLB starter.

 

Unless you are pulling Chacin out of the rotation, and I think that's a mistake, there's no rush.

 

Hader got rushed up, was a throw in piece, had 1 nasty pitch and we accepted that he'd be a dominant pen piece. We got plenty of value out of him.

Peralta was one of 3 pieces in a rental trade grab bag that usually amounts to nothing. He has 1 nasty pitch. If we don't stash him in AAA to develop, then accept that he has the stuff to be a dominant pen piece and move on. We'll get our money's worth out of that.

 

But our AAA organization is not in the mountains anymore. Pitchers can develop there. Even if that means Houser, Brown, Burnes and Peralta are hanging out together. Fine, but they have to be diverse.

Woody 60-25-12-3... the curve and change are grading poorly

Burnes 66-24-5-5.... but his FB is a -13.5 so he should sit in AAA... He was 59-34-7 last year and the FB was his plus pitch.

Peralta 80-16-4

Looks like the splits on this guy:

Hader 86-13-1

 

Peralta's diversity is that of a pen piece. Let him be a pen piece or put him in AAA until he can throw other pitches. We as fans get a bit silly about some of the arms we have in the system. Hader Woody Burnes Peralta Brown Rasmussen will not all be starters. Getting high leverage BP pieces who can wipe out an offenses for 4 innings between 2 of them is a great thing.

[TJseven7]

To add:

Keep Woody in the rotation.

Chase has 2 more club option years

Davies has 2 more arby years

Chacin is a FA next year so that's 1 open spot for 2020

Gio is a 1 year deal but Nelson has 1 more arby year

 

Peralta is pre arby

Burnes is pre arby

Houser is pre arby

Brown hasn't hit the bigs

Rasmussen hasn't hit the bigs.

 

And we need 1, maybe 2. Plus they'll be looking for their next Chacin Gio or Miley along the way. I think we need to stop trying to hit the lottery bigger than we need. Hader, even in the pen has hit the lottery. Peralta in the pen could be pretty close.

[Brew crew 92]

Teams in a rough spot of sorts. 3 kids you want to groom for a MLB starter gig, but you are trying to win now. Every starter we expected to pitch well has been rough. Every guy we stopped expecting QSs out of (davies anderson) are pulling a Miley season.

 

Gio is Gio, he can be a consistent 4.0 guy.

Davies you can't touch right now because he's pitching like our ace and is in a groove.

Anderson in the pen has been worse than Anderson in the rotation. He's 2 ER in 9.2 in his 2 starts.

Woody is the only kid with a FIP that says his ERA is a lie. He's the most diverse of the 3. He's the one who is ready to cut his teeth as a MLB starter.

 

Unless you are pulling Chacin out of the rotation, and I think that's a mistake, there's no rush.

 

Hader got rushed up, was a throw in piece, had 1 nasty pitch and we accepted that he'd be a dominant pen piece. We got plenty of value out of him.

Peralta was one of 3 pieces in a rental trade grab bag that usually amounts to nothing. He has 1 nasty pitch. If we don't stash him in AAA to develop, then accept that he has the stuff to be a dominant pen piece and move on. We'll get our money's worth out of that.

 

But our AAA organization is not in the mountains anymore. Pitchers can develop there. Even if that means Houser, Brown, Burnes and Peralta are hanging out together. Fine, but they have to be diverse.

Woody 60-25-12-3... the curve and change are grading poorly

Burnes 66-24-5-5.... but his FB is a -13.5 so he should sit in AAA... He was 59-34-7 last year and the FB was his plus pitch.

Peralta 80-16-4

Looks like the splits on this guy:

Hader 86-13-1

 

Peralta's diversity is that of a pen piece. Let him be a pen piece or put him in AAA until he can throw other pitches. We as fans get a bit silly about some of the arms we have in the system. Hader Woody Burnes Peralta Brown Rasmussen will not all be starters. Getting high leverage BP pieces who can wipe out an offenses for 4 innings between 2 of them is a great thing.

 

Agree with most of your take.

 

I WOULD put Chacín in the pen, and peralta back in the rotation. Chacín In 2 or 3 inning stints especially against right handed dominant line-ups could be a real weapon. I’d also get burnes back in the rotation after 1 more start in AAA, and put Anderson back in the pen. Give burnes and peralta another opportunity starting, at least until Nelson is ready, then re-evaluate.

[tdcarney22]

I'd like to see them go with Freddy in the pen...he struggled so much, i think right now it would be quite useful for him to just see himself completing innings 1 or 2 at a time without giving up runs. It could be a very quick way to build back up some confidence that he can get big league hitters out!

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

I know its a different scenario, but Freddy's penchant for wildness and giving up multiple runs in his first inning of work really scares me with regards to moving him to the pen. If I were making the call, I'd send him to San Antonio and keep throwing him out there every 5th day, with the idea of developing his multiple pitch arsenal. Both Woodruff and Burnes profile better in the pen, and have a much larger track record of success there.

[Brew crew 92]

I know its a different scenario, but Freddy's penchant for wildness and giving up multiple runs in his first inning of work really scares me with regards to moving him to the pen. If I were making the call, I'd send him to San Antonio and keep throwing him out there every 5th day, with the idea of developing his multiple pitch arsenal. Both Woodruff and Burnes profile better in the pen, and have a much larger track record of success there.

 

The crew’s braintrust apparently thinks at least right now, he should be working on getting big league hitters out, and not in AAA pitching to overmatched hitters.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

I know its a different scenario, but Freddy's penchant for wildness and giving up multiple runs in his first inning of work really scares me with regards to moving him to the pen. If I were making the call, I'd send him to San Antonio and keep throwing him out there every 5th day, with the idea of developing his multiple pitch arsenal. Both Woodruff and Burnes profile better in the pen, and have a much larger track record of success there.

 

The crew’s braintrust apparently thinks at least right now, he should be working on getting big league hitters out, and not in AAA pitching to overmatched hitters.

 

Yes, this is apparently correct. I can't imagine the leash is going to be very long, though. They are finally to the point where they have some stability in the rotation. It would be nice to see that continue. I really want Peralta to succeed, and the best chance of that happening is to make sure opposing hitters aren't sitting on his fastball. I guess you go to a 6-man rotation, as there is no easy answer on who to remove to insert Freddy. Chacin has been scuffling, but removing a guy coming off a career year and one known for starting a little slow doesn't seem like the best answer. Woodruff has been pitching much better of late, Anderson has been solid, Gio is Gio, and Davies has been terrific. It's a good problem to have, and I'm happy I'm not the one who has to make the decision.

[Eye Black]

I think Peralta is a good candidate to pitch following the use of a one inning opener. He struggles against left-handed hitters, so he would likely be bypassing a team’s very best lefties the first time through the order (and making it one less time total he would have to face them for the game). You could use someone like LHP Donnie Hart to take the first inning, with Peralta coming in starting in the 2nd to face the middle-to-bottom of the order for his first time taking the mound.

[Brew crew 92]

I know its a different scenario, but Freddy's penchant for wildness and giving up multiple runs in his first inning of work really scares me with regards to moving him to the pen. If I were making the call, I'd send him to San Antonio and keep throwing him out there every 5th day, with the idea of developing his multiple pitch arsenal. Both Woodruff and Burnes profile better in the pen, and have a much larger track record of success there.

 

The crew’s braintrust apparently thinks at least right now, he should be working on getting big league hitters out, and not in AAA pitching to overmatched hitters.

 

Yes, this is apparently correct. I can't imagine the leash is going to be very long, though. They are finally to the point where they have some stability in the rotation. It would be nice to see that continue. I really want Peralta to succeed, and the best chance of that happening is to make sure opposing hitters aren't sitting on his fastball. I guess you go to a 6-man rotation, as there is no easy answer on who to remove to insert Freddy. Chacin has been scuffling, but removing a guy coming off a career year and one known for starting a little slow doesn't seem like the best answer. Woodruff has been pitching much better of late, Anderson has been solid, Gio is Gio, and Davies has been terrific. It's a good problem to have, and I'm happy I'm not the one who has to make the decision.

 

Yes, your right it’s a good problem to have!

 

All I know is this pitching staff the second half of the year has a real chance to be dominant.

[coolhandluke121]

I think you have to keep Peralta stretched out in case of injuries. Whether that means having him in the rotation or in AAA, you can't just start using him in the bullpen as typically 1-2 inning guy in my opinion. He's unproven there and has been too volatile. If you want to move a young guy to the pen, make it Burnes or Woodruff. I could see Peralta in some kind of piggy-backing role, but it's a little early in the season to start that now unless you have a complicated plan to acquire even more guys with options and use constant shuttle service (which I'm not ruling out).

 

Not sure whose spot he gets. The depth of starters, combined with the lack of guys who are clearly head and shoulders above other starter options, does support the notion of putting some starters in long relief and blurring the lines between starters and relievers a little more.

[djoctagone]

I think Peralta is a good candidate to pitch following the use of a one inning opener. He struggles against left-handed hitters, so he would likely be bypassing a team’s very best lefties the first time through the order (and making it one less time total he would have to face them for the game). You could use someone like LHP Donnie Hart take the first inning, with Peralta coming in starting in the 2nd to face the middle-to-bottom of the order for his first time taking the mound.

not a bad idea, but barring an injury to another player, hart is most likely the guy to be sent down when peralta returns.

[Brew crew 92]

I think you have to keep Peralta stretched out in case of injuries. Whether that means having him in the rotation or in AAA, you can't just start using him in the bullpen as typically 1-2 inning guy in my opinion. He's unproven there and has been too volatile. If you want to move a young guy to the pen, make it Burnes or Woodruff. I could see Peralta in some kind of piggy-backing role, but it's a little early in the season to start that now unless you have a complicated plan to acquire even more guys with options and use constant shuttle service (which I'm not ruling out).

 

Not sure whose spot he gets. The depth of starters, combined with the lack of guys who are clearly head and shoulders above other starter options, does support the notion of putting some starters in long relief and blurring the lines between starters and relievers a little more.

 

Agree with blurring of lines mentality. Keep in mind the potential innings that will need to be managed amongst Nelson Burnes Woody peralta, with all four of the aforementioned pitching out of the pen at some point.

[tmwiese55]

I'm not sure I agree with this, the rotation has finally stabilized lately to general mediocrity, which was a big improvement. We'll see the corresponding move before I'll be too critical or anything but just generally it seems not needed right now. Maybe do a start or two in AAA to get sharp and practice other pitches while we wait for someone else to struggle or get hurt. I was thinking of maybe them putting Chacin on the IL to give him a break since he hasn't been as good lately but if that was they plan they'd have done it already and gotten a pen arm up. We'll see

[FVBrewerFan]

There hasn't been and won't be any piggy-backing or blurring the lines of starter/reliever. Unless you mean a reliever pitching more than one inning, which isn't exactly a novel idea.

[Fear The Chorizo]

There hasn't been and won't be any piggy-backing or blurring the lines of starter/reliever. Unless you mean a reliever pitching more than one inning, which isn't exactly a novel idea.

 

Why not? Why not go into a game knowing you're going to try and get a majority of the innings pitched from two guys that are built up as starters and capable of each giving you at least 5IP, when your 40 man pitcher roster is chock full of those options compared to having a deep supply of shutdown relievers that can be relied on for ~3-4 appearances per week?

 

I'd much rather take a piggy backing approach with 1 rotation spot than roll with a 6 man rotation or shuffling a guy who should be starting somewhere into an inconsistent bullpen role at this point.