Will the Brewers ever again have a pitcher that wins 100 games for the franchise

[Outlander]

Just enjoy it while we have the trio. Wins certainly don't tell the whole story but reality says Peralta is the only one with a decent chance as a Brewer.

[igor67]

What about Suter? He's sitting at 25 already with 6 wins already on the season. This role he has found himself in might be quite the niche to keep hanging around and stealing wins as a lefty.

[MrTPlush]

Well if Peralta ends the season with 32 (10 more wins) that would put him at needing 13.6 wins per year to get there. If he is truly ace level and can do that every single year he probably can get there.

 

The other two simply don’t have enough control to make it all that realistic.

[trwi7]

What about Suter? He's sitting at 25 already with 6 wins already on the season. This role he has found himself in might be quite the niche to keep hanging around and stealing wins as a lefty.

 

Let's be incredibly optimistic and say he gets another 10 wins this year and gets to 35. He would need to win 11 games a year in his age 32-37 seasons to get to 100. There's no way any of that is happening.

[igor67]

I don't think it is particularly likely, but even without LOOGY roles lefties can hang around, on the other hand even if his new roles is better at sneaking wins than other relief type roles traditionally it would take quite a bit of luck along the way.

[dlk9s]

Probably Zach Davies.

[patrickgpe]

Peralta would have the best chance but he would have to win about 14 games a year

[rickh150]

“Ever” is the key word..... yeah, it’ll happen. Really, just having a #2 or #3 type home grown pitcher re-upping for a new contract would do it. Pitching 6 years and re-upping for 4 would get to 10.... at 10 wins a year avg. Sure. Maybe even a Woodruff, Burnes, or Peralta...Possible.

[JohnBriggs12]

Peralta would have the best chance but he would have to win about 14 games a year

 

That's doable if he stays relatively healthy and the Brewers don't decide to trade him. A lot depends on having bullpens that can hold leads.

[Outlander]

I don't think it is particularly likely, but even without LOOGY roles lefties can hang around, on the other hand even if his new roles is better at sneaking wins than other relief type roles traditionally it would take quite a bit of luck along the way.

Suter with another one today, only 74 to go.

[DuWayne Steurer]

Suter will probably pitch til he's 43, since he tops out at like 84 mph.

[igor67]

Mostly because this is just something fun to toy around with that is different, but closers don't typically seem to pick up enough wins. Hoffman finished with 61 wins, Rivera had 82. Jesse Orrosco also fell short at 87, but Loogy's also aren't well suited to getting wins. The old school stoppers though seemed to break the mark often enough. Hoyt Wilhelm had 143, Gossage had 124, and Fingers had 118. Suter isn't anywhere near the pitcher those 3 were, but they had the most similar usage pattern I could think of. Some starts here and there multi-innings. With shorter starts by starters in general there are more wins floating around for middle relievers to steal. I'd be curious if anyone else had ideas on historical comps that might be relevant.

[sveumrules]

They've definitely been farming wins for Suter since he came back in 2019 & it's worked. He's now up to 13 wins (against only 2 losses) in 68 innings over 44 appearances in 147 team games since returning from TJ in September of 2019.

 

There are only three relievers with more wins than Suter over that timeframe, all with considerably more work...Yusmeiro Petit (14 wins, 137 G, 138 IP), Craig Stammen (15 wins, 125 G, 141 IP) and Daniel Hudson (16 wins, 112 G, 117 IP).

[DuWayne Steurer]

Elroy Face went 18 - 1 in 59 relief appearances in 1959. Crazy to think about.

 

We're at a point in time with starter usage that it's not inconceivable that a reliever could hit 12-13 wins in a season here or there with the right usage. Suter frequently goes a couple innings, and he's used in the 5th/6th innings, when he's likely to pick up the win if we're up by a run or two.

 

All that being said, I don't want the team feeding a guy wins. I want them trying to win. I'd rather Brandon Woodruff or Freddy Peralta is going 6 strong than dipping out for Brent Suter to get a win.

 

I could see an odd statistical season where the Raptor picks up 10 - 12 - 13 wins, but I realistically don't think he'll be good enough, long enough to pick up 70+ more wins in this role.

[igor67]

I agree about not trying to feed him wins intentionally. I'd say for my notion to make sense he'd have to end up with a 'peak' where he is at 60 wins by the end of his age 34 season, and then he hangs around until 40 or 41 in more of the quasi specialist role and averaging about 6 wins a season. Something as simple as Ashby coming up and taking on more of that long man role the rest of the season could really impact that type of scenario.