When Will Keston Hiura Arrive In Milwaukee?

[patrickgpe]

Obviously bringing him up doesn’t solve the brewers biggest issue, but I think after the super 2 deadline if Jesus is still batting as bad as he is it does make sense to bring him up and move moose to 1st.

[wildcat83]

Obviously bringing him up doesn’t solve the brewers biggest issue, but I think after the super 2 deadline if Jesus is still batting as bad as he is it does make sense to bring him up and move moose to 1st.

 

I think Shaw would go to first and Moose to third in this scenario. Shaw has a good amount of time at first already in his career, I think that would be the more natural move.

[Eye Black]

Let’s just assume the Brewers do want to get Hiura’s bat in the lineup this season. I think a possible date to call him up would be Tuesday, June 4th. It is coming off of a road trip and following a Monday day off for both the Brewers and the Missions. It is the start to a home stand versus the Marlins and Pirates. It would also likely be just clear of the Super Two cutoff.

 

It is impossible to know for sure at this point and they would obviously have to alter the roster in some significant way, but if they are already certain they want to bring up Hiura when he clears the Super Two hurdle then June 4th is my prediction.

[Fear The Chorizo]

Let’s just assume the Brewers do want to get Hiura’s bat in the lineup this season. I think a possible date to call him up would be Tuesday, June 4th. It is coming off of a road trip and following a Monday day off for both the Brewers and the Missions. It is the start to a home stand versus the Marlins and Pirates. It would also likely be just clear of the Super Two cutoff.

 

It is impossible to know for sure at this point and they would obviously have to alter the roster in some significant way, but if they are already certain they want to bring up Hiura when he clears the Super Two hurdle then June 4th is my prediction.

 

Hiura is just destroying AAA pitching right now - if that continues over the next 4-5 weeks it will be very difficult to justify keeping him down there if Shaw doesn't start hitting.

 

Milwaukee is 2nd in the majors to tampa in terms of OPS from the second base position, but that's basically because they have a 3B playing there (Moose). Conversely, they are dead last in the majors in terms of 3B OPS despite getting 8 games-worth of offense from Moose playing that position - Shaw has been terrible. It looks like the Brewers can get decent 1B production from what they have on their roster provided Aguilar keeps rounding into form and Thames gets enough ABs.

 

They'd obviously need to make room on their 40 man for Hiura, but there's plenty of fodder on it currently that could easily be shuffled out to make room for his RH bat in Milwaukee.

[homer]

Let’s just assume the Brewers do want to get Hiura’s bat in the lineup this season. I think a possible date to call him up would be Tuesday, June 4th. It is coming off of a road trip and following a Monday day off for both the Brewers and the Missions. It is the start to a home stand versus the Marlins and Pirates. It would also likely be just clear of the Super Two cutoff.

 

It is impossible to know for sure at this point and they would obviously have to alter the roster in some significant way, but if they are already certain they want to bring up Hiura when he clears the Super Two hurdle then June 4th is my prediction.

 

That is also right before they play Houston and Seattle too I believe so they'll need a DH.

[TURBO]

When is the official super two cut off date?

 

I am expecting to see him in Milwaukee shortly after, or the day of, especially if Shaw is still in the tank.

[Lathund]

When is the official super two cut off date?

 

There isn't one, there's no way to know at the time. "Super two" means that among players with between two and three years of service time, the 22% with the most service time will be arbitration eligible that year. All we know is when that usually ends up being, but a lot could change in 2½ years. Some guys called up before the usual Super 2 deadline might spend a lot of time optioned and not accrue service time , meaning that some called up after might in fact qualify. Guys coming back from abroad (like if Thames had signed a standard contract) can impact it too etc.

 

Anyway, between 2009 and 2016, the cutoff has been between 37 and 61 days into the season, or between 122 and 146 days of service time.

[wntrtxn21]

Let’s just assume the Brewers do want to get Hiura’s bat in the lineup this season. I think a possible date to call him up would be Tuesday, June 4th. It is coming off of a road trip and following a Monday day off for both the Brewers and the Missions. It is the start to a home stand versus the Marlins and Pirates. It would also likely be just clear of the Super Two cutoff.

 

It is impossible to know for sure at this point and they would obviously have to alter the roster in some significant way, but if they are already certain they want to bring up Hiura when he clears the Super Two hurdle then June 4th is my prediction.

 

Hiura is just destroying AAA pitching right now - if that continues over the next 4-5 weeks it will be very difficult to justify keeping him down there if Shaw doesn't start hitting.

 

Milwaukee is 2nd in the majors to tampa in terms of OPS from the second base position, but that's basically because they have a 3B playing there (Moose). Conversely, they are dead last in the majors in terms of 3B OPS despite getting 8 games-worth of offense from Moose playing that position - Shaw has been terrible. It looks like the Brewers can get decent 1B production from what they have on their roster provided Aguilar keeps rounding into form and Thames gets enough ABs.

 

They'd obviously need to make room on their 40 man for Hiura, but there's plenty of fodder on it currently that could easily be shuffled out to make room for his RH bat in Milwaukee.

 

I don't think it's the 40 man roster that's the concern for Stearns. Who does he let go to accommodate Hiura on the big league club? Gamel is hitting .280/.372 and is proving to be very valuable as the 4th OF. Perez is the back-up at almost every position. Pina is the back-up catcher and Aguilar can't be sent down w/o exposing him to all the other clubs. That leaves Thames and Shaw. I doubt CC would want to sent Shaw down and he needs to keep 13 pitchers. Does Stearns want to lose Thames and eat his contract for Hiura?

[Point Beer Is Best]

Let’s just assume the Brewers do want to get Hiura’s bat in the lineup this season. I think a possible date to call him up would be Tuesday, June 4th. It is coming off of a road trip and following a Monday day off for both the Brewers and the Missions. It is the start to a home stand versus the Marlins and Pirates. It would also likely be just clear of the Super Two cutoff.

 

It is impossible to know for sure at this point and they would obviously have to alter the roster in some significant way, but if they are already certain they want to bring up Hiura when he clears the Super Two hurdle then June 4th is my prediction.

 

That is also right before they play Houston and Seattle too I believe so they'll need a DH.

 

That's what I was thinking. That's the Prince Fielder break-in blue print - bring him up to be the DH on the road vs AL teams.

[SeaBass]

Let’s just assume the Brewers do want to get Hiura’s bat in the lineup this season. I think a possible date to call him up would be Tuesday, June 4th. It is coming off of a road trip and following a Monday day off for both the Brewers and the Missions. It is the start to a home stand versus the Marlins and Pirates. It would also likely be just clear of the Super Two cutoff.

 

It is impossible to know for sure at this point and they would obviously have to alter the roster in some significant way, but if they are already certain they want to bring up Hiura when he clears the Super Two hurdle then June 4th is my prediction.

 

That is also right before they play Houston and Seattle too I believe so they'll need a DH.

 

That's what I was thinking. That's the Prince Fielder break-in blue print - bring him up to be the DH on the road vs AL teams.

If what Lathund said was right, that the Super 2 cutoff has generally been between 37 and 61 days into the season, with 6 off days figured in the 2 game series with the Twins in Minnesota could be his first call up. That would be 60 days into the season and be in an AL park. Could even send him back down after, skipping the 4 game set at Pittsburgh and bring him back again on June 4 at home vs. the Marlins.

 

Edit: Check that, he'd have to be down for 10 days barring injury to someone on the 25 man roster, so they could call him back up for the Houston series June 11. Or skip the Twins series and just wait until June 4 as was first suggested.

[Lathund]

It's noon CT. Keston Hiura has already homered and walked today. Really hoping to see him up sooner rather than later.

[shanedog19]

The obvious move now would be to bring Huira up to play 2nd, move Moose back over to 3rd and bench Shaw. Shaw needs to show something quick or could be a part time player soon.

[homer]

This may be a dumb question but does Shaw have any options left?

[RollieTime]

Hiura is a man among boys right now. It’s just ridiculous.

 

If the rotation continues to stabilize, one option they could consider is sending down a bullpen arm to make room for Hiura. If they had all of Hader, Jeffress, Guerra, Burnes, and Williams in the bullpen, they have plenty of guys that can go 2+ innings in a pinch. Wilkerson and Houser can be used in that role as well. Throwing Claudio and Albers into the mix, I think they could manage pretty well.

[Fear The Chorizo]

This may be a dumb question but does Shaw have any options left?

 

I believe he may actually have 2 options left...If he's got that many left and we get into June without him hitting, he's got to be ticketed for AAA unless injuries settle out the middling 1B/3B/2b logjam. If Shaw is performing the poorest and he has minor league options remaining, the writing needs to be on the wall if Hiura is still raking.

 

Last year at this time the 1B roster logjam sorted itself out after Thames' injury, Aguilar started mashing, and the Braun 1B experiment basically ended after he needed an extended run in LF during a Yelich DL stint. Once Yelich was back I'm pretty sure he made the move into RF and things rolled from there.

[Brew crew 92]

Hiura is a man among boys right now. It’s just ridiculous.

 

If the rotation continues to stabilize, one option they could consider is sending down a bullpen arm to make room for Hiura. If they had all of Hader, Jeffress, Guerra, Burnes, and Williams in the bullpen, they have plenty of guys that can go 2+ innings in a pinch. Wilkerson and Houser can be used in that role as well. Throwing Claudio and Albers into the mix, I think they could manage pretty well.

 

This.

7 man relief pen.

 

1.) Nelson woodruff Anderson Houser

2.) Guerra

3.) Burnes

4.) Claudio

5.) Albers

6.) jeffress

7.) Hader

 

That’s a pen with 5-6 multi-inning arms that could handle CC.

 

The xtra offense with Hiura worth no williams

[And That]

Shaw does have two options left, and does not have enough service time to block an option assignment.

 

That said, I would be shocked if the Brewers sent him to the minors.

[Oxy]

Shaw does have two options left, and does not have enough service time to block an option assignment.

 

That said, I would be shocked if the Brewers sent him to the minors.

 

It's still probably a little early--but if he isn't coming around in the next 2 weeks and Saladino and Hiura are still hitting...I'd be disappointed if they don't try it to see what happens.

[homer]

Shaw does have two options left, and does not have enough service time to block an option assignment.

 

That said, I would be shocked if the Brewers sent him to the minors.

 

yeah it'd be a weird move but if he's hitting under .200 in June short of releasing him I don't see how they keep him on the field. I was more curious if it was even an option (pun intended).

[benji]

How about calling him up this weekend? I think Brewers are facing all 3 Cub lefty starters.

[brooks_quichenick]

How about calling him up this weekend? I think Brewers are facing all 3 Cub lefty starters.

 

I like that idea

[Brew crew 92]

How about calling him up this weekend? I think Brewers are facing all 3 Cub lefty starters.

 

Yes, and sign him to a Eloy Jimenez type extension,no worries on super two then, why wait on a bat THIS good?

[MrTPlush]

Man I would give Shaw till June. Dude was pretty good for 2,000 ABs prior to this year. Guy has to turn it around sooner rather than later. I guess if it is still this bad in two weeks maybe you try something, but he isn't Arcia who has been pretty dreadful most of his career....Shaw has been real solid.

[benji]

I agree with you on Shaw. He is a quality .800+ OPS hitter. Its more Aguilar/Perez/ and even Braun a little until recently. The right handed hitters haven't produced against left handed starters this year to expectations. I was being somewhat sarcastic, but I think a quality right handed bat against those three starters would help. You could always option him down after for super 2 reasons.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Man I would give Shaw till June. Dude was pretty good for 2,000 ABs prior to this year. Guy has to turn it around sooner rather than later. I guess if it is still this bad in two weeks maybe you try something, but he isn't Arcia who has been pretty dreadful most of his career....Shaw has been real solid.

 

Yep, this. Shaw has always been a streaky hitter. That's just who he is. It just so happens that this extended cold streak to begin the year coincides with two of the team's top prospects, Hiura and Erceg, hitting very well at AAA. At 29 years old, Shaw is squarely in his athletic prime. There is no reason that he won't eventually come out of this. And a hot-hitting Shaw has proven that he can carry this team for stretches.