2019 Standings and Playoff Races Discussion

[Brew crew 92]

When EVERYONE THAT COMMENTED on this site was resigned to us not making the playoffs, I wasn’t, called what’s now taking place with team a long time ago. Said the pitching would flip September 1 and it did. Said they’d go on a run and they have. Just the fact of my unwavering confidence should let you know how strongly I felt about what’s now taking place. Stats didn’t hint of any of this.

 

If you knew all this would happen why did you want to fire Stearns for not selling high on Yelich & Hader at the deadline?

 

*Mic Drop*

 

Been told to move on so that’s what I’m doing.

[pacopete4]

Been told to move on so that’s what I’m doing.

 

You were told to move on from your conspiracy theories of our owner being a crook and making up your own numbers on how much money there is to spend, not from answering for your other craziness you’ve never owned up to. You NEVER take ownership of your crap. You don’t change your ways. Don’t you wonder why just about anyone and everyone (even posters who are never combative) chime in on you? Figure it out bub.

[True Blue Brew Crew]

The same people responding to him each and every time isn't all that much less annoying. At what point should the expectation just be to use the ignore function rather than complain about someone's each and every post?

[SoCalBrewfan]

Honestly, there are a large number of posts on this and many other message boards that are essentially overreactions to an event or small number of events. Many posters are guilty of them, and it kind of bugs me sometimes, but I figure a lot of it is just emotional reactions as opposed to thoughtful ones. So saying the Brewers are done, or are guaranteed to make the playoffs, or are doomed to lose a certain game...they're overreactions based on an emotional response to something bad. It's similar with prospect reactions...Rasmussen is an ace, Rasmussen is bad, Grisham is trash, Grisham is one of our best hitters. Even when they turn out right that doesn't make the logic behind them sound.

 

You can have gut feelings about the next two weeks of games, but the smart money would predict something close to break even. Calling a projection system trash because it works from that baseline prediction is just silly. And yes, there are many things not reflected there...emotion, fatigue, lingering injuries, just having a hunch. But those are sometimes the ways people fool themselves into dumb bets...

 

So sure, post your hunch, your dream, the triple bank shot that gets us the division and leaves the Cubs and Cards at home crying. (Definitely post that one, actually.) Just don't pretend it's anything more than it is.

[Fear The Chorizo]

The same people responding to him each and every time isn't all that much less annoying. At what point should the expectation just be to use the ignore function rather than complain about someone's each and every post?

 

It makes these threads so much faster to read through, that's for sure!

[82brewcrew82]

The same people responding to him each and every time isn't all that much less annoying. At what point should the expectation just be to use the ignore function rather than complain about someone's each and every post?

You're right and I own my piece. I just put him on ignore and nothing he says going forward will get any notice from me.

[tmwiese55]

Still, there is a value in trying to kind or reign in a clearly enthusiastic fan into reality a bit. He clearly cares, follows a lot, and knows a lot of baseball stuff. So kind of just trying to point in the right direction a bit. But yea maybe it's just not worth it.

 

Biggest 'gotcha' potentially looking me in the face on stuff I said is IDK 8ish games ago saying how it's almost impossible to catch STL for the division. Basically the far fetched week happened exactly as we needed getting the 6-1 week (though I'd have thought sweeping the Cards would be crucial in it,but we got the extra in MIA) to now actually put this possibility into play. at least a 5-2 week here and it's wide open.

[82brewcrew82]

Still, there is a value in trying to kind or reign in a clearly enthusiastic fan into reality a bit. He clearly cares, follows a lot, and knows a lot of baseball stuff. So kind of just trying to point in the right direction a bit. But yea maybe it's just not worth it.

 

Biggest 'gotcha' potentially looking me in the face is IDK 8ish games ago saying how it's almost impossible to catch STL for the division. Basically the far fetched week happened exactly as we needed getting the 6-1 week (though I'd have thought sweeping the Cards would be crucial in it,but we got the extra in MIA) to now actually put this possibility into play. at least a 5-2 week here and it's wide open.

Every post of his you/we respond to gives him credibility he doesn't deserve. At this point I consider him nothing but a troll and why he hasn't gotten a vacation is beyond me. If you don't like using ignore than just ignore in practice. If people stop responding he becomes irrelevant.

[FVBrewerFan]

Still, there is a value in trying to kind or reign in a clearly enthusiastic fan into reality a bit. He clearly cares, follows a lot, and knows a lot of baseball stuff. So kind of just trying to point in the right direction a bit. But yea maybe it's just not worth it.

 

Biggest 'gotcha' potentially looking me in the face is IDK 8ish games ago saying how it's almost impossible to catch STL for the division. Basically the far fetched week happened exactly as we needed getting the 6-1 week (though I'd have thought sweeping the Cards would be crucial in it,but we got the extra in MIA) to now actually put this possibility into play. at least a 5-2 week here and it's wide open.

Every post of his you/we respond to gives him credibility he doesn't deserve. At this point I consider him nothing but a troll and why he hasn't gotten a vacation is beyond me. If you don't like using ignore than just ignore in practice. If people stop responding he becomes irrelevant.

 

Much like how the Brewers handled Tyler Cravy.

[Jopal78]

Rizzo in walking boot for the next 5-7 days.

[stalton]

I was talking to a Nats fan, and he is fearing the Brewers catching up to them. I love when the Brewers get inside of people (and team's) heads.

[homer]

Nats had a 7 game lead over Brewers two weeks ago. Now 1.5

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

I just think the Nats are in trouble. Somebody is going to lose a bunch of games in these last two weeks. I hooe it is the Cubs and Nats. It could be us. I just think Washington has a brutal schedule. I think they are feeling some pressure. I don't think Martinez is very good.

 

Could be wrong, but I think an all-NL Central WC game is a realer possibility than the odds might suggest.

[shanedog19]

It feels like the crew will need to go 8-4, maybe 9-3 to get into the postseason. The Nats will be playing teams out of playoff contention once they are done with the Cardinals. We have zero margin for error at this point.

[jjfanec]

It feels like the crew will need to go 8-4, maybe 9-3 to get into the postseason. The Nats will be playing teams out of playoff contention once they are done with the Cardinals. We have zero margin for error at this point.

 

Cleveland is only a 1.5 out right now so we obviously want them to be close to the wild card that last week. I doubt the Phillies are going to roll over for a division rival. Those two series are far tougher than what the Brewers have on paper.

 

On paper the Brewers have a huge advantage over the Cards, Cubs and Nats. Looking at rosters those teams seem to have an advantage on the Brewers. It should be a fun last two weeks

[Brew crew 92]

When EVERYONE THAT COMMENTED on this site was resigned to us not making the playoffs, I wasn’t, called what’s now taking place with team a long time ago. Said the pitching would flip September 1 and it did. Said they’d go on a run and they have. Just the fact of my unwavering confidence should let you know how strongly I felt about what’s now taking place. Stats didn’t hint of any of this.

 

If you knew all this would happen why did you want to fire Stearns for not selling high on Yelich & Hader at the deadline?

 

Notice he hasn't responded, and it's an excellent question.

 

 

I didn’t “know”, I believed the brewers would go on a run in September, after seeing Stearns addition’s pitch for this team, Lyles Pomeranz Black, And Suter in his rehab outings, and Peralta regaining his control in AAA. Guerra Hader Jackson Claudio improvement sealed it for me. Then the September history of Stearns/Counsell just iced the cake.

 

I never said I wanted Yelich traded at the deadline.

 

I don’t believe the Cubbies will lose a game to the Reds or Pirates. The Cardinals and Nats are vulnerable, just because of who they play. If the brewers can keep winning, which I think they will, the division is up for grabs, and could go down to that last Sunday.

[Patrick425]

It feels like the crew will need to go 8-4, maybe 9-3 to get into the postseason. The Nats will be playing teams out of playoff contention once they are done with the Cardinals. We have zero margin for error at this point.

 

Actually the Nats finish the season against the Indians who, at the moment, are not out of playoff contention (they are very much in the wild card race).

 

Skimming through the posts did not really see if this was already pointed out, so forgive me if it was. With the Cubs/Cards playing each other 7 more times in the next 12 games, that means one of those teams will lose at least 4 of their next 12 and likely a few more (Cards remaining schedule is not easy). I feel like if the Brewers can win each of their remaining series against all sub 500 teams, they have an excellent chance of making the playoffs (or even winning the division) without any tie-breaker game. Even if they split the current series and take the other 3, I think they have a decent chance because of the other contenders (Wash, CHC, and StL) beating up on each other.

 

Also, while yeah, the Brewers can't take these sub 500 teams lightly and these teams would like to take part in knocking a team out of the playoffs. The players one these teams are also very tired after playing 150+ games. They are out of the race. Their focus is probably not at 100%. Teams will be leary about having any star players (especially pitchers) getting injured during this last 2 weeks of meaningless games (for them). They will probably give September call ups more of a chance to prove themselves (which I guess could possibly be bad as they will have more to prove than the players that have been on the team all year). Obviously, the schedule is set up well for the Brewers chances right now.

[Fear The Chorizo]

The Cubs have been scoring tons during this homestand against scrub teams, and that 4 game Cardinal series this weekend is going to feature some crazy high scoring games just looking at the forecast - every game will have the wind blowing out at Wrigley, a couple game it will be significantly blowing out. I'm hoping Bryant's cortisone shot starts wearing out right around this Thursday - that will really hamper their roster with him, Rizzo, and Baez all out.

 

I expect at least 1 bench clearing incident between the Cubs and Cards before the year is over, especially if one of the teams is beating up on the other - feels like the Brewers have somehow gotten under both organization's skins and they are going to be salty knowing one of them is likely to miss the playoffs altogether.

[Brew crew 92]

The Cubs have been scoring tons during this homestand against scrub teams, and that 4 game Cardinal series this weekend is going to feature some crazy high scoring games just looking at the forecast - every game will have the wind blowing out at Wrigley, a couple game it will be significantly blowing out. I'm hoping Bryant's cortisone shot starts wearing out right around this Thursday - that will really hamper their roster with him, Rizzo, and Baez all out.

 

I expect at least 1 bench clearing incident between the Cubs and Cards before the year is over, especially if one of the teams is beating up on the other - feels like the Brewers have somehow gotten under both organization's skins and they are going to be salty knowing one of them is likely to miss the playoffs altogether.

 

Extremely thoughtful post. Agree with every word. Gausman took Castillo’s spot last night not sure why, don’t think he’s injured, probably just to keep his innings down. The pitchers the Cubbies have faced these last 4-5 games are historically bad/Young, but that ends tonight with Sonny Gray vs Darvish.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

At this point it may be just as fruitful to hope STL sweeps WAS.

[MrTPlush]

I think you hope Washington can win that series in all honesty. Washington plays the Marlins after tomorrow. They very well may end up having a 4-3 week even if they get swept. Cardinals on the other hand could easily go 3-4 or worse if they lose the Nationals series.

 

Trying to cheer for a WC birth just seems so lame and boring. I would rather have a good chance to gain ground on both versus just hoping one team freefalls. I fully expect us to go 5-2 this week at worst so we could find ourselves within a game of all three of the Nationals/Cardinals/Cubs. I would feel pretty confident we could do better the last week than at least one of those teams.

 

Now if the Cards win tonight (especially if we lose too) then yah...I am probably just hoping the Nationals get swept. Though it seems just a touch to early to really cheer for another team when the door is so wide open for three different postseason spots. I am sure after the Cubs/Cards series this week we will have a good idea who to really pull for in different games...BUT maybe not.

[Outlander]

Still rooting for a bunch of Cubs and Cardinals losses. Washington is a secondary concern, if the Brewers keep on winning they have at least one of the Wild Card spots, the division and avoiding an elimination game should be the goal.

[long ball]

A week or two ago I thought 87-88 wins probably gets a playoff spot. Now I kinda feel like 90 is the number to potentially just get a tie breaker game. The Brewers can get there, but it means they're going to need to sweep a couple of these series. I'm just assuming at this point that the Cubs, Cards, and Nats are going to sweep all of their 3 game series vs non-contenders. Seeing the lifelessness of some of these teams is both frustrating and leaving me optimistic.

[jjfanec]

Lets just pause and appreciate the fact that we are talking about even an outside shot at the division with the way this season has gone. Knebel out to start the year. Chacin and Jeffress injured and ineffective enough to be DFA. Burnes and Peralta end up out of the rotation quickly. Woodruff misses a bunch of time with an injury. Yelich missing time, Huira missing time, Aguilar and Shaw being awful. Cain battling injuries all year. Grandal having a power outage for 2 months.

 

I love how this team has battled through all that and now really controls their own destiny. At one point I was just hoping they would get me to football season now I am scoreboard watching the next 12 games!

[MrTPlush]

I am just glad I can stop listening to people claim the Brewers, "always choke in the second half/September". It wasn't even a factually true statement and thankfully the last three years have helped put that to bed.