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Can we please stop with the pitching stats for the year. That’s another pitching staff. Just watch with the eyes at the action on the field, then go ahead and tell me that we have the 3rd worst staff in the NL.

 

Lyles and Houser have been good. Our bullpen has stabilized. But 3/5 of our starters have been a mess. Our pitching in August was bad. Not sure what I'm supposed to be seeing.

 

I would argue the pen has more than Stabilized. But ok, if that’s all you see.

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You all know we're almost certainly getting 2 of 4 this weekend, right? Primarily because it's by far the most obnoxious number. 3-4 wins clearly puts us back in the 2nd wildcard race. 0-1 wins clearly puts us out of it, we'd pretty much have to win out at that point. 2 wins leaves us 4 back with 20 to play. It's sorta kinda in contention...definitely an annoying spot to be.

 

And, this is my biggest concern. As much as I hate the Cubs - and want to see us win as many games as possible from them, I'd almost rather see us lose 3/4 this weekend than to split this series. Splitting this series will do nothing for us. Yes, we'll have a very small percentage of hope remaining, but I just don't see any way we are going to make up 4 games with 20 games to play, especially when none of those remaining games are against the Cubs. As others have already noted - our season basically comes down to these 4 games this weekend. Need to win 3/4 to keep hope alive. Anything less than that, and you can stick a fork in this season.

 

I won’t deny these aren’t important games. But, if we split the series it’s not over. Remember the Cubbies play the Cards 7 more times. And Hiura should be back for the last 2 weeks, and Woody the last week at least.

 

I wouldn’t be surprised if we win our last 10 games if needed.

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You all know we're almost certainly getting 2 of 4 this weekend, right? Primarily because it's by far the most obnoxious number. 3-4 wins clearly puts us back in the 2nd wildcard race. 0-1 wins clearly puts us out of it, we'd pretty much have to win out at that point. 2 wins leaves us 4 back with 20 to play. It's sorta kinda in contention...definitely an annoying spot to be.

 

And, this is my biggest concern. As much as I hate the Cubs - and want to see us win as many games as possible from them, I'd almost rather see us lose 3/4 this weekend than to split this series. Splitting this series will do nothing for us. Yes, we'll have a very small percentage of hope remaining, but I just don't see any way we are going to make up 4 games with 20 games to play, especially when none of those remaining games are against the Cubs. As others have already noted - our season basically comes down to these 4 games this weekend. Need to win 3/4 to keep hope alive. Anything less than that, and you can stick a fork in this season.

 

Well I've been looking at it for a few weeks now from the "just keep alive for a few more weeks to keep us entertained" type of view. So at least getting the 2 keeps it alive a bit longer, which I'm all for. Sure, football is here but it's still not something to watch every day. Just keep hanging around, all of a sudden win 4-5 in a row and who knows.

 

Note, I mostly have that type of view for a while as it's pretty clear they have next to no chance to win it all this year. So hey, just keep us entertained a while longer. Last year, you knew if they got in they could win it.

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Can we please stop putting too much stock into small samples and sweeping judgments and overreactions on a game by game basis.

 

Guy's gotta get his posts in while he can before the next pitching staff blowup dampens the September callup narrative that he's been parroting for the past 3 months falls apart.

 

It’s more than the September call-up’s. It’s the Pomeranz Hader Claudio Guerra Jackson improvement, to go with the Peralta Suter Nelson. And if 1 or 2 of Williams Williams Albers Faria Burnes can help it’s gonna get really fun around here. Then there’s Woodruff.

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You all know we're almost certainly getting 2 of 4 this weekend, right? Primarily because it's by far the most obnoxious number. 3-4 wins clearly puts us back in the 2nd wildcard race. 0-1 wins clearly puts us out of it, we'd pretty much have to win out at that point. 2 wins leaves us 4 back with 20 to play. It's sorta kinda in contention...definitely an annoying spot to be.

 

And, this is my biggest concern. As much as I hate the Cubs - and want to see us win as many games as possible from them, I'd almost rather see us lose 3/4 this weekend than to split this series. Splitting this series will do nothing for us. Yes, we'll have a very small percentage of hope remaining, but I just don't see any way we are going to make up 4 games with 20 games to play, especially when none of those remaining games are against the Cubs. As others have already noted - our season basically comes down to these 4 games this weekend. Need to win 3/4 to keep hope alive. Anything less than that, and you can stick a fork in this season.

 

Well I've been looking at it for a few weeks now from the "just keep alive for a few more weeks to keep us entertained" type of view. So at least getting the 2 keeps it alive a bit longer, which I'm all for. Sure, football is here but it's still not something to watch every day. Just keep hanging around, all of a sudden win 4-5 in a row and who knows.

 

Note, I mostly have that type of view for a while as it's pretty clear they have next to no chance to win it all this year. So hey, just keep us entertained a while longer. Last year, you knew if they got in they could win it.

 

We just outplayed the Astros, so I’d say if we get in, throw out the records, and just play ball.

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Can we please stop putting too much stock into small samples and sweeping judgments and overreactions on a game by game basis.

 

Guy's gotta get his posts in while he can before the next pitching staff blowup dampens the September callup narrative that he's been parroting for the past 3 months falls apart.

 

Well a mere 2-3 weeks ago management all had to go due to how horribly the team is built and managed. Now, apparently they're one of the best teams in the league.

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Can we please stop with the pitching stats for the year. That’s another pitching staff. Just watch with the eyes at the action on the field, then go ahead and tell me that we have the 3rd worst staff in the NL.

 

Lyles and Houser have been good. Our bullpen has stabilized. But 3/5 of our starters have been a mess. Our pitching in August was bad. Not sure what I'm supposed to be seeing.

 

I just looked and our pitching in August gave up the highest OPS it has all year.

 

You’re not supposed to use stats and facts, you’re supposed to use your eyes... Come on tmwiese55...

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Can we please stop putting too much stock into small samples and sweeping judgments and overreactions on a game by game basis.

 

Guy's gotta get his posts in while he can before the next pitching staff blowup dampens the September callup narrative that he's been parroting for the past 3 months falls apart.

 

Well a mere 2-3 weeks ago management all had to go due to how horribly the team is built and managed. Now, apparently they're one of the best teams in the league.

 

I already addressed that. But I’ll do it again. I was wrong. I was angry at Stearns for the specific roster imbalance, and Freitas being kept down with a .530 batting average vs Lefties. Our lineup against LHP, no upgrade at SS. I’m not angry anymore, it’s over, he’s more than made up for with the deadline deals he did make, and the planned September roster. But that’s fine, some on here can keep bringing up our 13 th ranked pitching, ha, or how we have too small of a sample size, blah blah blah.

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You all know we're almost certainly getting 2 of 4 this weekend, right? Primarily because it's by far the most obnoxious number. 3-4 wins clearly puts us back in the 2nd wildcard race. 0-1 wins clearly puts us out of it, we'd pretty much have to win out at that point. 2 wins leaves us 4 back with 20 to play. It's sorta kinda in contention...definitely an annoying spot to be.

 

And, this is my biggest concern. As much as I hate the Cubs - and want to see us win as many games as possible from them, I'd almost rather see us lose 3/4 this weekend than to split this series. Splitting this series will do nothing for us. Yes, we'll have a very small percentage of hope remaining, but I just don't see any way we are going to make up 4 games with 20 games to play, especially when none of those remaining games are against the Cubs. As others have already noted - our season basically comes down to these 4 games this weekend. Need to win 3/4 to keep hope alive. Anything less than that, and you can stick a fork in this season.

 

I won’t deny these aren’t important games. But, if we split the series it’s not over. Remember the Cubbies play the Cards 7 more times. And Hiura should be back for the last 2 weeks, and Woody the last week at least.

 

I wouldn’t be surprised if we win our last 10 games if needed.

 

I get what you are saying, but the Cubs also have 4 against the Padres, 6 against the Pirates and 3 against the now floundering Reds. So, we might literally need a situation where the Cards go 5-2 or 6-1 against the Cubs in those remaining head-to-head's. That's a lot to ask.

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Guy's gotta get his posts in while he can before the next pitching staff blowup dampens the September callup narrative that he's been parroting for the past 3 months falls apart.

 

Well a mere 2-3 weeks ago management all had to go due to how horribly the team is built and managed. Now, apparently they're one of the best teams in the league.

 

I already addressed that. But I’ll do it again. I was wrong. I was angry at Stearns for the specific roster imbalance, and Freitas being kept down with a .530 batting average vs Lefties. Our lineup against LHP, no upgrade at SS. I’m not angry anymore, it’s over, he’s more than made up for with the deadline deals he did make, and the planned September roster. But that’s fine, some on here can keep bringing up our 13 th ranked pitching, ha, or how we have too small of a sample size, blah blah blah.

 

 

 

ahh, but this time you're right and we're all just too blind to see it. Just like we were then as well. OK

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Guy's gotta get his posts in while he can before the next pitching staff blowup dampens the September callup narrative that he's been parroting for the past 3 months falls apart.

 

Well a mere 2-3 weeks ago management all had to go due to how horribly the team is built and managed. Now, apparently they're one of the best teams in the league.

 

I already addressed that. But I’ll do it again. I was wrong. I was angry at Stearns for the specific roster imbalance, and Freitas being kept down with a .530 batting average vs Lefties. Our lineup against LHP, no upgrade at SS. I’m not angry anymore, it’s over, he’s more than made up for with the deadline deals he did make, and the planned September roster. But that’s fine, some on here can keep bringing up our 13 th ranked pitching, ha, or how we have too small of a sample size, blah blah blah.

 

 

 

ahh, but this time you're right and we're all just too blind to see it. Just like we were then as well. OK

 

 

No, I think most here see, what I see, but maybe not to the extent that I see it yet. But of course time will tell.

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You all know we're almost certainly getting 2 of 4 this weekend, right? Primarily because it's by far the most obnoxious number. 3-4 wins clearly puts us back in the 2nd wildcard race. 0-1 wins clearly puts us out of it, we'd pretty much have to win out at that point. 2 wins leaves us 4 back with 20 to play. It's sorta kinda in contention...definitely an annoying spot to be.

 

And, this is my biggest concern. As much as I hate the Cubs - and want to see us win as many games as possible from them, I'd almost rather see us lose 3/4 this weekend than to split this series. Splitting this series will do nothing for us. Yes, we'll have a very small percentage of hope remaining, but I just don't see any way we are going to make up 4 games with 20 games to play, especially when none of those remaining games are against the Cubs. As others have already noted - our season basically comes down to these 4 games this weekend. Need to win 3/4 to keep hope alive. Anything less than that, and you can stick a fork in this season.

 

I won’t deny these aren’t important games. But, if we split the series it’s not over. Remember the Cubbies play the Cards 7 more times. And Hiura should be back for the last 2 weeks, and Woody the last week at least.

 

I wouldn’t be surprised if we win our last 10 games if needed.

 

The Crew also trail the Phils and the D'backs, so they too have to lose for the Brewers to gain ground. The Mets are 1/2 game back and they have to be accounted for. We have to hope this weekend goes really well and the Cards take at least 4 from the cubs. No matter what, the Crew has to go on a significant winning streak to have any chance.

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No, I think most here see, what I see, but maybe not to the extent that I see it yet. But of course time will tell.

 

 

Just stop posting stuff like this. You don't have prescient powers that let you see things other people can't. Seriously. Just stop. Not going to ask again.

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Per Adam McCalvy:

The Brewers are...

5-5 last 10g

10-10 last 20g

15-15 last 30g

20-20 last 40g

25-25 last 50g

30-30 last 60g

 

This is how you miss the playoffs.

"This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.
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Brewers - @ MIA (4), @ STL, SD (4), PIT, @ CIN, @ COL - 20

Cubs - @ SD (4), PIT, CIN, STL (4), @ PIT, @ STL - 20

Cards - @ COL, MIL, WAS, @ CHC (4), @ ARI, CHC - 19

AZ @ NYM (4), CIN, MIA, @ SD, STL, SD - 19

PHI – ATL (4), BOS, @ ATL, @ CLE, @ WAS (5), MIA - 21

WAS - @ MIN, ATL, @ STL, @ MIA, PHI (5), CLE - 20

 

The Brewers play the bottom 5 in the NL Standings with the only team remaining with a winning record being the Cards. If the Brewers can sweep MIA, they would probably move up a game or two but then might move right back down with a 1-2 trip to STL. However, looking at their final 13 games, they could bust out a 11-2 run. They closed last year at 9-1. If they go 16-4, they are in.

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My guess is that if the Brewers finish the season 13-7 they will at least force a playoff “play-in” game and could possibly get in outright.

 

As I mentioned in the IGT, the Brewers hold the head-to-head tiebreaker for home field advantage versus the Nationals, Cubs, Diamondbacks, Phillies, and Mets.

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I mean, it's fun and all but we are still in the realm of "it could happn but it probably won't". Personally, I just can't get past not knowing what your pitching is going to do from game to game.
but it's not like every guy suddenly forgot every piece of advice he gave
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Brewers - @ MIA (4), @ STL, SD (4), PIT, @ CIN, @ COL - 20

Cubs - @ SD (4), PIT, CIN, STL (4), @ PIT, @ STL - 20

Cards - @ COL, MIL, WAS, @ CHC (4), @ ARI, CHC - 19

AZ @ NYM (4), CIN, MIA, @ SD, STL, SD - 19

PHI – ATL (4), BOS, @ ATL, @ CLE, @ WAS (5), MIA - 21

WAS - @ MIN, ATL, @ STL, @ MIA, PHI (5), CLE - 20

 

The Brewers play the bottom 5 in the NL Standings with the only team remaining with a winning record being the Cards. If the Brewers can sweep MIA, they would probably move up a game or two but then might move right back down with a 1-2 trip to STL. However, looking at their final 13 games, they could bust out a 11-2 run. They closed last year at 9-1. If they go 16-4, they are in.

 

The Phillies and Nationals have brutal stretches. Both only have have one team with a losing record

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I mean, it's fun and all but we are still in the realm of "it could happn but it probably won't". Personally, I just can't get past not knowing what your pitching is going to do from game to game.

 

Think the fact our line-up is short Hiura Moose Pina, with Braun and Cain also hurting, is probably just as concerning isn’t it?

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I mean, it's fun and all but we are still in the realm of "it could happn but it probably won't". Personally, I just can't get past not knowing what your pitching is going to do from game to game.

 

Think the fact our line-up is short Hiura Moose Pina, with Braun and Cain also hurting, is probably just as concerning isn’t it?

Not for me. They seem to be finding ways to score enough runs. The pitching has been bad all year.

but it's not like every guy suddenly forgot every piece of advice he gave
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Sept 8th and still playing meaningful games.. Lots of seasons we couldn't say that. With how many things that have gone utterly wrong, theyre still on the fringe.

 

Lately we have played meaningful games a ton in September:

 

2007

2008

2011

2012

2014

2017

2018

2019

 

That is about 62% of the last 13 years. Hard to complain considering how they were the few decades before.

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