2019 NFL Free Agency/A Busy Day for Green Bay

[OldSchoolSnapper]

I'd be fine with Cobb if you could depend on him staying on the field, but you can't.

[CheezWizHed]

It would have to be a very small deal where you'd expect him fully healthy for only 8-10 games.

[KeithStone53151]

Tate would be the ideal guy, but I just can't imagine we have much cap room after the splurge today. Targeting a smaller wr in the draft for the slot seems like an excellent idea. Even if they like Kumerow there, he's really our only option there right now and I don't think you want to bank on one guy like that.

[pacopete4]

Golden Tate would be pretty fun in our offense. Has a knack for getting loose like Driver did.

[LouisEly]

Glad they double-dipped at OLB/Edge, because things weren't looking like they were going to work out draft-wise. Josh Allen and Montez Sweat both played their way up draft boards between the last few games of the season and the Senior Bowl/Combine and are likely top-8 picks now. Polite bombed at the combine and now has additional question marks. That just leaves Ferrell as a possibility in the first round, then developmental guys in the 3rd/4th.

 

Of note is what they haven't addressed yet in free agency - DL and TE, positions that are deep and talented in the draft. They'll give Graham one more year to mentor a couple of young guys, but he's gone after 2019; I'll be very surprised if they don't draft a guy on day 1 or 2 to learn for a year under Graham. They'll need another OL in the draft, but can wait until the 4th for some developmental guys.

[HarveysWBs]

So reading the tea leaves here, I'd assume this is revealing of Gute's thoughts on the draft. Perhaps he doesn't expect any of the top 5 or 6 pass rushers to be available at #12, or even that he isn't all that high on Sweat or Polite. Perhaps it means he loves Devin White (and oh my, what a front seven that would be). Or maybe he doesn't like the way the 12th pick is shaping up and a trade down is in order. [sarcasm]Maybe TT's influence isn't nil after all.[/sarcasm]

[FVBrewerFan]

For those of you that know these 3 defensive additions very well, how would you sum up how they improve the defense as a whole? Is the defense now faster? Tougher?

[pacopete4]

For those of you that know these 3 defensive additions very well, how would you sum up how they improve the defense as a whole? Is the defense now faster? Tougher?

 

Meaner.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

For those of you that know these 3 defensive additions very well, how would you sum up how they improve the defense as a whole? Is the defense now faster? Tougher?

 

More fundamentally sound. Getting pressure from the edge, and from really all over when it comes to Za'Darius, is going to make the LB corps and secondary look all that much better. Amos isn't going to be a super flashy player, but he's also very fundamentally sound and smart. He is very close to what an "in his prime" Morgan Burnett provided.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

So reading the tea leaves here, I'd assume this is revealing of Gute's thoughts on the draft. Perhaps he doesn't expect any of the top 5 or 6 pass rushers to be available at #12, or even that he isn't all that high on Sweat or Polite. Perhaps it means he loves Devin White (and oh my, what a front seven that would be). Or maybe he doesn't like the way the 12th pick is shaping up and a trade down is in order. [sarcasm]Maybe TT's influence isn't nil after all.[/sarcasm]

 

I think it had more to do with the fact that his star QB turns 36 next year and no draft pick is going to elevate the pass rush to where it needs to be. You may get a contributor to supplement the defense, but it couldn't be more obvious that they needed good veteran players. Nothing would surprise me in the draft. They could go out and draft two more edge rushers in the first.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

For those of you that know these 3 defensive additions very well, how would you sum up how they improve the defense as a whole? Is the defense now faster? Tougher?

 

More fundamentally sound. Getting pressure from the edge, and from really all over when it comes to Za'Darius, is going to make the LB corps and secondary look all that much better. Amos isn't going to be a super flashy player, but he's also very fundamentally sound and smart. He is very close to what an "in his prime" Morgan Burnett provided.

 

I haven't seen anyone really bringing this up, but these two are also behemoths. Za'Darius is 6'4 and 275. Preston is 6'6.

 

I'd also rate Amos as a better player than Morgan Burnett, whom I consider to be one of the most overrated Packers of the last decade. He had the reverence of fans for some reason but he was a 100% marginal player who essentially never made a play.

[homer]

Front line could be pretty good. Smith, Daniels, Clark, Smith - then Fackrell, Wilkerson (maybe).

[HarveysWBs]

This isn't technically a FA post, but it is a move facilitated by these FA moves. If the Packers are willing to trade their 12th pick (which could be more likely now that FA has reduced a little urgency), they could always package that with a couple other picks to NYG for Beckham and cut Graham, Williams, and Crosby to free up some cap space. Yeah, Rodgers would be ticked to lose three players he has a long history with (or in Graham's case, has wanted to play with for a while), but how mad could he be throwing to Beckham and Adams all day? Tell me that wouldn't jam that window of contention back open for another four or five years?

 

In the immortal words of George Costanza, let's get nuts!

 

([sarcasm]I'm being only half-blue here...[/sarcasm])

[FVBrewerFan]

So meaner, bigger, more fundamentally sound. I'll take it.

 

I agree on Amos btw, he's the only guy I'm really familiar with. He's better than Burnett ever was. Contest between him and HHCD for most overrated S in Packers history.

 

I really think this makes Martinez better too. He doesn't have to cover for everyone not doing their job, he can just seek and destroy.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

For those of you that know these 3 defensive additions very well, how would you sum up how they improve the defense as a whole? Is the defense now faster? Tougher?

 

More fundamentally sound. Getting pressure from the edge, and from really all over when it comes to Za'Darius, is going to make the LB corps and secondary look all that much better. Amos isn't going to be a super flashy player, but he's also very fundamentally sound and smart. He is very close to what an "in his prime" Morgan Burnett provided.

 

I haven't seen anyone really bringing this up, but these two are also behemoths. Za'Darius is 6'4 and 275. Preston is 6'6.

 

I'd also rate Amos as a better player than Morgan Burnett, whom I consider to be one of the most overrated Packers of the last decade. He had the reverence of fans for some reason but he was a 100% marginal player who essentially never made a play.

 

I think if you are expecting Amos to create a bunch of turnovers and game-turning plays, you're going to be disappointed. He just isn't that sort of player. What he is is a player who isn't going to take poor angles, whiff on tackles, get beaten over and over again by TEs and RBs, and be caught out of position time and time again. He's a sound, steady, lunchpail-type player who is dependable. Some fans aren't going to like that, but I personally think its great. Having a guy like that is going to allow the playmaker-types like Alexander and King (if he ever gets healthy) to take more chances and create turnovers, knowing they have a steady influence in Amos behind them to back them up. That type of heady player is also going to make whoever is starting at safety next to him, whether that is Jones, or Brice, Campbell, Josh Jackson or whoever else they bring in as safety, much better.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

I'm very familiar with Amos and know what he is. He was a PFF all pro in 2017-018. You're either drastically underrating him or overrating Burnett. There was a lot of interest from several teams for him.

 

Burnett is a guy. He always was. Only among GB fans was he a revered player.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

I'm very familiar with Amos and know what he is. He was a PFF all pro in 2017-018. You're either drastically underrating him or overrating Burnett. There was a lot of interest from several teams for him.

 

Burnett is a guy. He always was. Only among GB fans was he a revered player.

 

I love the Amos signing. LOVE it! If the packers need anything in that defense, it's a steady hand, and he'll provide that. You are viewing my comparison to Burnett as an insult to Amos, and it isn't that at all. Perhaps I am overrating Burnett, but I viewed him as a steady influence who couldn't be depended on as a playmaker. I see Amos as a similar type of player. And that is not a bad thing at all in my opinion. Please don't let your obvious hatred of Morgan Burnett puts words in my mouth.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

I don't recall any team besides Pitt wanting Burnett, and that the Packers let him walk for 3/14 should tell you everything.

 

Some players get inflated locally by coachspeak getting into the news a lot. A position coach will say a guy is "terrific" or the "ultimate pro" every week for a few years and locally that becomes "this guy is a terrific player and we need him."

 

Burnett was addition by subtraction IMO. So was HaHa, who at least used to be good and then went rogue playing hero ball. One of the highlights of last year is getting a 4th for that dead weight.

 

Burnett's claim to fame was being the "quarterback of the defense" on a unit that was among the league's worst. He was part of the problem.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

I don't recall any team besides Pitt wanting Burnett, and that the Packers let him walk for 3/14 should tell you everything.

 

Some players get inflated locally by coachspeak getting into the news a lot. A position coach will say a guy is "terrific" or the "ultimate pro" every week for a few years and locally that becomes "this guy is a terrific player and we need him."

 

Burnett was addition by subtraction IMO. So was HaHa, who at least used to be good and then went rogue playing hero ball. One of the highlights of last year is getting a 4th for that dead weight.

 

Burnett's claim to fame was being the "quarterback of the defense" on a unit that was among the league's worst. He was part of the problem.

 

OK, fine ... I deeply regret the comparison to Morgan Burnett. Forget it ever happened. I think we gotta see the forest through the trees here.

 

They signed Amos. He's a good safety. Yay!

[PeaveyFury]

I didn’t realize cutting Tramon would free up $4.75 million. I’d be fairly surprised if that doesn’t happen...

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Basically I was looking for a Packers historical player to compare to Amos, and Burnett was the first name I came up with. Perhaps there just isn't an apt comparison.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

The thing is, Williams really wasn't bad. Most of his price is just the cost of a veteran, but when asked to do a little bit less he's probably an asset to the team, especially as a mentor and depth that can play anywhere if need arises.

[PeaveyFury]

I just think that money is better used towards resigning Breeland or elsewhere, personally.

[CheezWizHed]

Basically I was looking for a Packers historical player to compare to Amos, and Burnett was the first name I came up with. Perhaps there just isn't an apt comparison.

 

From the descriptions, people have of Amos (here and elsewhere), I don't think its all that off base. Burnett was a non-flashy, dependable, always-in-position type player until he was about 25. Then it seems he fell off a cliff and the MB we had the last 3 years (and Pitt last year) wasn't the same player.

 

So hopefully Amos doesn't follow MB's path...

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Basically I was looking for a Packers historical player to compare to Amos, and Burnett was the first name I came up with. Perhaps there just isn't an apt comparison.

 

From the descriptions, people have of Amos (here and elsewhere), I don't think its all that off base. Burnett was a non-flashy, dependable, always-in-position type player until he was about 25. Then it seems he fell off a cliff and the MB we had the last 3 years (and Pitt last year) wasn't the same player.

 

So hopefully Amos doesn't follow MB's path...

 

That's what I saw as well. But according to NFL personnel expert OldSchoolSnapper, it was WAY off. Because rather than focusing on the Amos signing, all we got was a diatribe on how Burnett was trash, and only blind Packer fans thought otherwise.