Machado to Padres - 10 years, $300 million

[SRB]

Bad news for us, just adds another potential Wild Card contender.

[StearnsFTW]

I think the White Sox are going to be glad they lost this bidding war. Not today, but 5 years from today.

 

What are people basing this on?

 

He's been really really good the last 4 years except 1 (.265 BABIP, power was down though, not sure about why). He's 26. He plays a semi-premium position extremely well. He plays every day.

 

He didn't make sense for Milwaukee, but damn, if I were a Padres fan I'd be thrilled.

[502 to Right]

I think the White Sox are going to be glad they lost this bidding war. Not today, but 5 years from today.

 

What are people basing this on?

 

He's been really really good the last 4 years except 1 (.265 BABIP, power was down though, not sure about why). He's 26. He plays a semi-premium position extremely well. He plays every day.

 

He didn't make sense for Milwaukee, but damn, if I were a Padres fan I'd be thrilled.

 

 

I base this on the fact that a player who already had character concerns just guaranteed himself $300 million no matter how poorly he plays.

[pacopete4]

Imagine that, those that are crazy against Machado are calling this a terrible deal for the Padres. This just in, water is still wet.

[adambr2]

Bad news for us, just adds another potential Wild Card contender.

 

I kind of think the opposite. I'm thrilled he didn't end up with any of our rivals and think if anything the Padres will be an 80-85 win team or so and just drain a few wins off the totals of the Dodgers and Rockies. Could end up being a good thing.

[StearnsFTW]

Bad news for us, just adds another potential Wild Card contender.

 

I kind of think the opposite. I'm thrilled he didn't end up with any of our rivals and think if anything the Padres will be an 80-85 win team or so and just drain a few wins off the totals of the Dodgers and Rockies. Could end up being a good thing.

 

Hadn't thought of it that way, but I can see it.

[DHonks]

so...2 or 3 years until he's a Yankee?

[Jenkins5]

Machado May be a tool but he is a very good player that many of us really wanted last season. This forum is biased fueled by how awful he rubbed us during playoffs. The dirty plays, not hustling, his comments, & so forth. I dislike the guy, really do but think he will continue to be a good player for at least 7 of those seasons. once he gets to 33-35 years old it’s not unreasonable he still produces. Maybe not at 30 million a year level. Trout is only one worth that money but be a good player.

 

Hope he fails which I don’t do a lot but I just don’t respect a the guy. 30 million is a lot to eat over next decade. Interested in how it pans out.

[BrewersSuperCollector]

I predict the fastest Machado runs this year is to sign the contract. I don’t think any of the other teams bidding gave a 10 year deal.

[StearnsFTW]

I think the White Sox are going to be glad they lost this bidding war. Not today, but 5 years from today.

 

What are people basing this on?

 

He's been really really good the last 4 years except 1 (.265 BABIP, power was down though, not sure about why). He's 26. He plays a semi-premium position extremely well. He plays every day.

 

He didn't make sense for Milwaukee, but damn, if I were a Padres fan I'd be thrilled.

 

 

I base this on the fact that a player who already had character concerns just guaranteed himself $300 million no matter how poorly his plays. Your numbers mean nothing to me.

 

Well how could I argue with logic like that?

[SeaBass]

Machado could bash for 6 seasons making an opt out a certainty and the Pads got a great player for 6 seasons at $180 million (depending on the structure). I'm inclined to like the deal more than dislike it.

 

Also, when it comes to the Hosmer deal, does Machado choose the Padres if they hadn't signed Hosmer? Whether his contract is good or not, it proves how serious about building a contender they are. I don't think he goes there if they didn't do the Hosmer deal.

[jerichoholicninja]

Machado could bash for 6 seasons making an opt out a certainty and the Pads got a great player for 6 seasons at $180 million (depending on the structure). I'm inclined to like the deal more than dislike it.

 

Also, when it comes to the Hosmer deal, does Machado choose the Padres if they hadn't signed Hosmer?Whether his contract is good or not, it proves how serious about building a contender they are. I don't think he goes there if they didn't do the Hosmer deal.

 

He still does because a couple weeks ago he flat out said he would sign with whoever offered the most money.

[jerichoholicninja]

Manny has no interest in going to San Diego. It's pretty clear he wanted to be a Yankee. I can't imagine he's going to be all that enthusiastic about playing there, especially since they aren't going to be winning anything for a few years. I also think he's going to force a trade to the Yankees in a coupe of years, and the Padres wind up eating a bunch of that contract and getting pretty much nothing in return. Same as what happened with Giancarlo.

 

so...2 or 3 years until he's a Yankee?

 

 

Great minds...

[Ennder]

Machado could bash for 6 seasons making an opt out a certainty and the Pads got a great player for 6 seasons at $180 million (depending on the structure). I'm inclined to like the deal more than dislike it.

 

Also, when it comes to the Hosmer deal, does Machado choose the Padres if they hadn't signed Hosmer? Whether his contract is good or not, it proves how serious about building a contender they are. I don't think he goes there if they didn't do the Hosmer deal.

 

Machado didn't care about anything other than the dollar signs. The White Sox offered him a much better deal and have just as bright a future and he turned it down, he wanted the guaranteed money so even if he quits and stinks he gets paid. This is one of the most selfish players in the game and I imagine it is going to end up biting the Padres in the long run.

[502 to Right]

 

Well how could I argue with logic like that?

 

Human nature > stats.

 

Machado is a turd.

[LouisEly]

1) Saw a stat that said of the last 13 teams to have the #1 or #2 ranked farm system, 12 of the 13 have made the playoffs within two years of that ranking. Don't know whose rankings, but the Padres are generally considered to have either the #1 or #2 ranked farm system.

 

B) If the Padres have that much young talent, it will be cost controlled for the next 3-5 years so they can dump money on a player like this. Lots of talent and production on major league minimums.

 

3) Last December I believe in an article in The Athletic he admitted that not running out grounders or fly balls "is not who I am". Nothing makes an employee more upset than when one employee has a different set of rules than everybody else. If players get benched for not running out grounders/fly balls but Machado doesn't get benched for not running them out, there will be a lot of tension in that clubhouse.

[danzig6767]

Machado could bash for 6 seasons making an opt out a certainty and the Pads got a great player for 6 seasons at $180 million (depending on the structure). I'm inclined to like the deal more than dislike it.

 

Also, when it comes to the Hosmer deal, does Machado choose the Padres if they hadn't signed Hosmer? Whether his contract is good or not, it proves how serious about building a contender they are. I don't think he goes there if they didn't do the Hosmer deal.

Machado didn't care about anything other than the dollar signs. The White Sox offered him a much better deal and have just as bright a future and he turned it down, he wanted the guaranteed money so even if he quits and stinks he gets paid. This is one of the most selfish players in the game and I imagine it is going to end up biting the Padres in the long run.

Given Machado would be insanely rich regardless if he picked the Padres or White Sox, if i was him, living in San Diego instead of Chicago would be an easy trump card for me to take the Padres offer.

 

I've been to San Diego and it would be a fabulous place to live for an extremely weathly young man.

[coolhandluke121]

I'm visiting friends in San Diego right now. Has nothing to do with Machado but it is a nice town. Still think it had to be his last choice apart from money though. It would be like a basketball player having to sign with the Suns because nobody else really wants him. Says a lot about your image when that's your best option. Just desserts if you will.

 

I agree with the people suggesting this is good because it makes the west tougher without adding another true playoff threat. Also think Machado becomes a lazy Matt Kemp type who is a regrettable acquisition almost immediately after getting his payday.

[And That]

WARP for the past three seasons:

 

Yasmani Grandal: 15.2

Manny Machado: 14.5

Bryce Harper: 9.4

[homer]

 

Well how could I argue with logic like that?

 

Human nature > stats.

 

Machado is a turd.

 

I'm sure plenty of turds have signed long term deals and done just fine.

[TURBO]

 

Well how could I argue with logic like that?

 

Human nature > stats.

 

Machado is a turd.

 

I'm sure plenty of turds have signed long term deals and done just fine.

 

I'm sure plenty of non-turds have done the same, which would you rather have on YOUR team?

[502 to Right]

 

Well how could I argue with logic like that?

 

Human nature > stats.

 

Machado is a turd.

 

I'm sure plenty of turds have signed long term deals and done just fine.

 

 

If you would want your team to invest $300 million to see how it turns out--have at it. No way would I want my team to risk that money.

[3and2Fastball]

I'd be thrilled if the Brewers signed Machado to that contract, especially with the opt out and without the no trade clause. I'm certain I'm very much in the minority in that opinion, but there's no doubt he'd put the Brewers over the top in terms of title contention.

[cesser000]

After the crap he pulled against us in the postseason, I'd rather lose without Machado than win with him.

[homer]

 

I'm sure plenty of turds have signed long term deals and done just fine.

 

I'm sure plenty of non-turds have done the same, which would you rather have on YOUR team?

 

That isn't the point. The point is just because someone is a turd doesn't mean they won't play well enough to earn their contract.