Trade for Antonio Brown?

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

The Packers will need to pony up for AB the steelers are not going to give him up. He has 3 years left on a deal so steelers don't need to move him

 

Relationship is beyond fractured. Brown has already met with Rooney and they have both alluded to the idea that the relationship is over.

[brewmann04]

joey i am a big steelers fan and been also talking with some beat guys that unless blown away and getting what they want are not giving him away.

[pacopete4]

It will come down to how badly they want to actually move him. Sure sounds like they do and that he has no interest in being in that uniform anymore. Those two things drive down the price a bit even on a great player. If Packers 30th isn’t enough, move on.

[brewmann04]

Brew 4u i am sure the steelers will move on from that Just from what i am hearing.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

joey i am a big steelers fan and been also talking with some beat guys that unless blown away and getting what they want are not giving him away.

 

Of course they shouldn't give him away. But he's also a very highly paid skill position player who will be 31 years old this year. Those types of guys don't get a huge haul, no matter what there name is.

[OldHeidelberg]

There is no way the Packers would give up multiple 1st AND a big contract to a 31 year old player. They can spend that money on a UFA and keep the picks. Like I said above I think I would like getting Brown for the #30 pick but I would also be happy if they rolled the dice on a pass rusher like Ansah, drafted another pass rusher at #12 and then used #30 on best available offensive player, maybe even a WR.

[CheezWizHed]

I'm sure the Steelers are on a major PR push to try to maximize his return, but I really doubt AB plays another down with the Steelers.

 

Our #30 is the most I'd give up and I'm still not sure he is a great fit. I think I'd rather chase some of the bigger defensive names and go draft a WR with #12 if they think the need is that bad.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

I'm sure the Steelers are on a major PR push to try to maximize his return, but I really doubt AB plays another down with the Steelers.

 

Our #30 is the most I'd give up and I'm still not sure he is a great fit. I think I'd rather chase some of the bigger defensive names and go draft a WR with #12 if they think the need is that bad.

 

A huge part of McVay's (LaFleur's) style of offense is a WR with next-level field awareness who excels at creating separation and finding holes in the opposing defense. While Adams could theoretically function in that sort of role, he is more of a all-around receiver who excels on the outside. That offense loves guys who are dangerous in space, catching WR screens and short slants. Brown, in my estimation, is a prototypical fit for that role. I would love to see what kind of crazy stuff this new offensive staff could draw up with Adams and Brown, along with burners like MVS and St. Brown at their disposal. Having a talent like Brown opposite Adams would make the Packers arguably the most dangerous offense in the league.

 

That said, there are obvious huge risks, on top of the cost of giving up a high draft pick and paying Brown a high salary. There is also the question of whether he would mesh with Rodgers personally. But the fit scheme-wise is nearly perfect in my estimation.

[MrTPlush]

Yah, but Brown is old...how long can we depend on him being a next-level guy? I also think his impact is majorly overblown. Our problems on offense are much deeper than little weapons. That offensive line was pretty bad compared to years past and while I believe inexperience at WR was also a big problem I am not convinced Brown saves the day.

[PeaveyFury]

Yah, but Brown is old...how long can we depend on him being a next-level guy? I also think his impact is majorly overblown. Our problems on offense are much deeper than little weapons. That offensive line was pretty bad compared to years past and while I believe inexperience at WR was also a big problem I am not convinced Brown saves the day.

 

...which is why this offseason isn't limited to one move. They have enough capital to fix a lot of problems, including o-line depth.

[LouisEly]

I'd rather sign 26-year-old Adam Humphries as a free agent or send a 6th round pick to Tampa for DeSean Jackson.

[homer]

I'd rather sign 26-year-old Adam Humphries as a free agent or send a 6th round pick to Tampa for DeSean Jackson.

 

Same. If it was Odell Beckham maybe different story but they have too many holes to fill.

[CheezWizHed]

That said, there are obvious huge risks, on top of the cost of giving up a high draft pick and paying Brown a high salary. There is also the question of whether he would mesh with Rodgers personally. But the fit scheme-wise is nearly perfect in my estimation.

 

Yep. Throw in that he is 31 and that sums up my concerns on whether he would fit.

[jerichoholicninja]

He's going to the Rams because, why not?

[rickh150]

Side show not worth it...

[brewmann04]

check the man stats he keeps putting up big numbers and is signed for the next3 years

[Jenkins5]

joey i am a big steelers fan and been also talking with some beat guys that unless blown away and getting what they want are not giving him away.

 

That’s sports talk & just an awful & dumb play for Steelers. They will get a nice pick for him but you will not get moon for a 30+ WR who has branded himself now as a possible cancer. Think after Bell situation & blowing return on that, they’d learn. Nothing good comes from keeping him. Him & Big Ben’s relationship probably will not be repaired. The fighting & on field spats hurts whole team. He has made it so clear he is done with Steelers, nothing good will come of holding on to him.

 

If offered a 1st round pick, I don’t know how they can turn down. They have to care so little about team chemistry & function to do so. Move on from drama that hurts your team. You can let two of your best players just feud & blow up at each. I know if ARod & Adams were at each other’s throats & want nothing to do with each other.... I’m not just riding it out & praying that it doesn’t hurt whole team.

[OnTheBlack]

joey i am a big steelers fan and been also talking with some beat guys that unless blown away and getting what they want are not giving him away.

 

 

That'd be one thing if these were rumors. The owner has come out and said he can't see him playing another down for the Steelers, the GM just insulted the entire team and basically took Big Ben's side in their feud and actually made Brown look good coming away from that interaction.

 

 

As for him wanting a new contract, I think it's highly unlikely anyone gives him a new deal with significant guaranteed money. He got paid like an elite WR'er. Him feuding with Big Ben doesn't change what he's already gotten paid and I don't see any team rewarding him with another mega-deal.

 

I'm starting to believe that our 2nd round pick and maybe another late rounder is going to be enough unless the Cards want to go all in on stupid decisions for this off-season and trade Rosen(Steelers QB of the future potentially) as well as a good draft pick(33rd ovr) for a guy who at best will be 33-34 when you're ready to actually contend.

 

Him being 30 years old doesn't worry me as a Packers fan that much(turning 31 before next season) as you expect elite talent like him to produce into their 30's, but why would a rebuilding team even consider it?

[PeaveyFury]

Rumor has it the Raiders, Redskins, and Titans are the top contenders for Brown. The lesson there may be that if you demand a trade, you'd better be careful or you'll end up playing for a crap team....

 

I'm not sold on any of those teams being very good going forward.

[KCBrewerfan34]

He’s going to a NFC team IMHO

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

He’s going to a NFC team IMHO

 

I agree. Steelers aren't going to deal him to an AFC rival while their self-perceived window is still open. He's an electric player who is easy to market and will put butts in seats, so it isn't going to just be contenders who are interested. I could see teams like the Buccaneers, Panthers, Lions, Cardinals, 49ers and Seahawks all interested. Rams and Saints too if they want to add to their offensive riches, although I have no idea how the Rams would be able to fit him under the cap. I could see the Packers making a play if they truly think that there's a legit Super Bowl window in the next 2-3 seasons.

[OnTheBlack]

Rumor has it the Raiders, Redskins, and Titans are the top contenders for Brown. The lesson there may be that if you demand a trade, you'd better be careful or you'll end up playing for a crap team....

 

I'm not sold on any of those teams being very good going forward.

 

 

Yeah, the Raiders actually make all the sense in the world....right after Gruden decides he can do better at QB and they move Carr as well when the league year starts. They've seemingly done everything wrong since giving Gruden 75 million dollars, so why not take a team that just traded two elite talents that helped you rebuild your franchise who were much younger and turn around and take one of those firsts and give it to the Steelers while they're rebuilding.

 

If I was the Steelers, that'd be one of the few AFC teams I'd feel alright about trading him to.

[brewmann04]

The steelers are open to moving him that get the best results for the steelers and again i say they wont be giving him away. I can't see him playing with a qb like AR.

[OnTheBlack]

He’s going to a NFC team IMHO

 

I agree. Steelers aren't going to deal him to an AFC rival while their self-perceived window is still open. He's an electric player who is easy to market and will put butts in seats, so it isn't going to just be contenders who are interested. I could see teams like the Buccaneers, Panthers, Lions, Cardinals, 49ers and Seahawks all interested. Rams and Saints too if they want to add to their offensive riches, although I have no idea how the Rams would be able to fit him under the cap. I could see the Packers making a play if they truly think that there's a legit Super Bowl window in the next 2-3 seasons.

 

 

The Saints trading for him would basically be saying they're choosing him over the much younger Thomas who has turned into an absolute beast. They would be over the cap as of now if they added Brown..so I don't see that. The Rams have the whole rookie QB contract that allows the luxury moves they've made, so that wouldn't surprise me. And he'd be a great fit there.

 

The two teams I least want to see him go to that are being discussed are the Hawks and the 49'ers. I think both could be really good in the near future, and if you have a guy like Kittle who runs like a WR'er and just sets records for TE's and Brown and Jimmy G looks like he did in his first half season there, they could make a huge jump. Seattle has lost all the big stars essentially sans Wilson and Wagner and they just rebuilt on the fly.

 

If I was Carolina, I'd want to go and get Cam a great WR'er who can really create separation, but that front office believes in the big bodied WR'ers(at least they did..maybe Cam's 50 pct comp pct might sway them a bit).

 

 

I still think we've got a shot, but the longer this has gone on, the less I see the Packers giving up a first. It's hardly a position need. I think we're gonna have a really nice core of WR'ers in the near future. This would just be a move to make everything else easier for the Packers. Less pressure on the D, the running game would benefit and it should make Arod happy. Brown, Adams, St. Brown, Scantling and Graham(and now I'm kinda hoping Fant instead of Graham) and that's an explosive group.

[brewmann04]

It won't be NO no real draft pick to move for brown, the team i would not be stunned is the Redskins.