2019 Misc MLB News

[homer]

So the Cards are moaning about Acuna's home run trot last night. This is the least surprising thing I've read all morning.

[Patrick425]

So the Cards are moaning about Acuna's home run trot last night. This is the least surprising thing I've read all morning.

 

Wasn't just the Cards that had issues with Acuna, but also his own teammates (not because of of the HR trot, but the long single):

 

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/04/sport/braves-teammates-call-out-ronald-acuna-jr-for-lack-of-hustle/index.html

 

Yes, the HR pose is fun (I still contend that Reggie Jackson invented it - at least the modern version) and MLB definitely needs to allow that kind of fun in the game to draw younger viewers (and I think they do). However, it seems anyone who get's upset by those types of antics is labeled as as a "Get off my lawn", "holier than thou", baseball purist that doesn't know how to have fun. Sometimes these antics are ill-timed and come across as selfish and more about ego than about helping your team win and being smart about playing the game. Acuna had a great night at he plate, but clearly some of his teammates feel he could use some maturity. He is young, so hopefully that will come and he'll learn when to pose and when to hustle.

[WV Brew]

Congratulations to Gavin Lux, the 21-year old from Kenosha, who hit a home run for the Dodgers last night.

[wntrtxn21]

So the Cards are moaning about Acuna's home run trot last night. This is the least surprising thing I've read all morning.

 

Wasn't just the Cards that had issues with Acuna, but also his own teammates (not because of of the HR trot, but the long single):

 

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/04/sport/braves-teammates-call-out-ronald-acuna-jr-for-lack-of-hustle/index.html

 

Yes, the HR pose is fun (I still contend that Reggie Jackson invented it - at least the modern version) and MLB definitely needs to allow that kind of fun in the game to draw younger viewers (and I think they do). However, it seems anyone who get's upset by those types of antics is labeled as as a "Get off my lawn", "holier than thou", baseball purist that doesn't know how to have fun. Sometimes these antics are ill-timed and come across as selfish and more about ego than about helping your team win and being smart about playing the game. Acuna had a great night at he plate, but clearly some of his teammates feel he could use some maturity. He is young, so hopefully that will come and he'll learn when to pose and when to hustle.

 

The HR pose is for one purpose, to bring attention to yourself! The "fun" is watching 'all for myself' players like Acuna when he does his pose and the ball doesn't go out. Last night he may have cost the Braves the game.

[Patrick425]

The HR pose is for one purpose, to bring attention to yourself! The "fun" is watching 'all for myself' players like Acuna when he does his pose and the ball doesn't go out. Last night he may have cost the Braves the game.

 

Ooh, be careful wntrtxn, that kind of talk is not popular and you will be accused of just being dead wrong for having that opinion and possibly labeled as someone who just wants to take the fun out of everything and hates any type of change.

[TURBO]

So the Cards are moaning about Acuna's home run trot last night. This is the least surprising thing I've read all morning.

 

Wasn't just the Cards that had issues with Acuna, but also his own teammates (not because of of the HR trot, but the long single):

 

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/04/sport/braves-teammates-call-out-ronald-acuna-jr-for-lack-of-hustle/index.html

 

Yes, the HR pose is fun (I still contend that Reggie Jackson invented it - at least the modern version) and MLB definitely needs to allow that kind of fun in the game to draw younger viewers (and I think they do). However, it seems anyone who get's upset by those types of antics is labeled as as a "Get off my lawn", "holier than thou", baseball purist that doesn't know how to have fun. Sometimes these antics are ill-timed and come across as selfish and more about ego than about helping your team win and being smart about playing the game. Acuna had a great night at he plate, but clearly some of his teammates feel he could use some maturity. He is young, so hopefully that will come and he'll learn when to pose and when to hustle.

 

The HR pose is for one purpose, to bring attention to yourself! The "fun" is watching 'all for myself' players like Acuna when he does his pose and the ball doesn't go out. Last night he may have cost the Braves the game.

 

agreed.

[brooks_quichenick]

I think it’s more likely that the Braves pitching staff cost them the game, 7 runs in will beat you more often than not. Maybe they should have performed better.

 

Laying the blame on an electrifying 21 year old who went 3/4 with a walk and a 2-run HR is asinine.

[DuWayne Steurer]

There's never not going to be old-school baseball guys who don't get their feelings hurt by guys who don't "play the right way". It's stupid but that's how it is.

[wallus]

Remember kids: There is no smiling or celebrating in baseball otherwise old guys will not like you.

[brooks_quichenick]

My favorite part of this Cards/Acuna "Right Way" nonsense was Carlos Martinez almost moonwalking (

) off the mound after a strike out, but then complaining about Acuna with this laughable line: "I simply want him to respect the game and respect me as a veteran player".

 

He'd probably respect you if you could get him out, Carlos.

[PeaveyFury]

The Cards must be exhausting to be a part of. I've never in any other sport found another team so focused on doing things the 'way' they feel they should be done.... they WON this game. Focus on the joy of winning, not the anger that some dude watched his HR. YOU had the last laugh, Cards. Don't be so exhausting.

 

It's like the co-worker we all have that freaks out anytime something comes up unplanned during their day and they can't handle it not going the way they think it should go. Calm down and move on.

[TURBO]

Yes, lets cater to the punk and get him who he wants to manage... He isn't good enough to have a lot of input on such things imo.

 

Buster Olney of ESPN reports that Manny Machado wants the Padres "to at least take a look at" his former manager Buck Showalter as they interview Andy Green's replacement.

 

Jon Heyman of MLB Network recently wrote that it's believed that the Padres are "putting a premium on experience," so Showalter would fit into this. It also makes sense that Machado would vouch for his former skipper in Baltimore, but it's unclear if he's a serious candidate. Braves third base coach Ron Washington, who previously worked with A.J. Preller in Texas, is being considered by the Padres as well as less-experienced candidates like Mark Kotsay and Mark Loretta.

 

SOURCE: Buster Olney on Twitter

Oct 8, 2019, 1:17 PM ET

[Eye Black]

As mentioned way back on page 18 of this thread, there are rumors of the A’s considering a move to Las Vegas.

 

From Sal Castaneda earlier today...

 

Just now Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf confirmed MLB commissioner Rob Manfred said A's might move to Las Vegas as a result of Oakland filing lawsuit against the team.

Maybe it’s just a bluff from MLB, but worth keeping an eye on going forward.

[sveumrules]

Yes, lets cater to the punk and get him who he wants to manage... He isn't good enough to have a lot of input on such things imo.

 

Buster Olney of ESPN reports that Manny Machado wants the Padres "to at least take a look at" his former manager Buck Showalter as they interview Andy Green's replacement.

 

Jon Heyman of MLB Network recently wrote that it's believed that the Padres are "putting a premium on experience," so Showalter would fit into this. It also makes sense that Machado would vouch for his former skipper in Baltimore, but it's unclear if he's a serious candidate. Braves third base coach Ron Washington, who previously worked with A.J. Preller in Texas, is being considered by the Padres as well as less-experienced candidates like Mark Kotsay and Mark Loretta.

 

SOURCE: Buster Olney on Twitter

Oct 8, 2019, 1:17 PM ET

 

From 2012-17 Manny & Buck's Orioles won the 6th most games in MLB & made the postseason three times (lost the WC, DS & CS once each), so they've had some success together.

 

Showalter is pretty well regarded around the league, too, so it's not like they'd just be hiring him on Machado's recommendation.

 

Cool to see Loretta's name popping up on the Managerial Hot Stove this offseason, hopefully he gets a shot somewhere.

[jerichoholicninja]

Yes, lets cater to the punk and get him who he wants to manage... He isn't good enough to have a lot of input on such things imo.

 

Buster Olney of ESPN reports that Manny Machado wants the Padres "to at least take a look at" his former manager Buck Showalter as they interview Andy Green's replacement.

 

Jon Heyman of MLB Network recently wrote that it's believed that the Padres are "putting a premium on experience," so Showalter would fit into this. It also makes sense that Machado would vouch for his former skipper in Baltimore, but it's unclear if he's a serious candidate. Braves third base coach Ron Washington, who previously worked with A.J. Preller in Texas, is being considered by the Padres as well as less-experienced candidates like Mark Kotsay and Mark Loretta.

 

SOURCE: Buster Olney on Twitter

Oct 8, 2019, 1:17 PM ET

 

I really don't see what the big deal is. He's not demanding, just suggesting. And suggesting someone who has had quite a bit of success as a manager before.

[tmwiese55]

As mentioned way back on page 18 of this thread, there are rumors of the A’s considering a move to Las Vegas.

 

From Sal Castaneda earlier today...

 

Just now Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf confirmed MLB commissioner Rob Manfred said A's might move to Las Vegas as a result of Oakland filing lawsuit against the team.

Maybe it’s just a bluff from MLB, but worth keeping an eye on going forward.

 

Yes this is the first step in trying to extort money from Oakland for a new stadium. If that fails, which I think it will, then it's game on. In this case though, you kind of have to agree with the team that a new stadium is gravely needed. It's not like so many other situations where it's not but they demand anyway. I also wanna say there is some weird legal thing about any new builds in the area have to go to housing first, something odd like that. Maybe I actually read it in this thread, I don't recall. So beyond the normal finance issues there is that to deal with in Oak.

 

Another note way back to when I brought up Vegas at the beginning of this talk is that the Rio has been sold since then as was part of the rumor of this whole grand plan. One thing to note relative to MKE is one of the new owners is a minority owner of the Bucks.

 

https://www.reviewjournal.com/business/casinos-gaming/caesars-sells-rio-to-new-york-real-estate-group-for-516-3m-1855014/

[True Blue Brew Crew]

I still want to know what the plan would be for the AAA team that just built a brand new stadium 15 minutes away from the proposed stadium locations (Rio site and Henderson). For the life of me I thought there was a MLB rule that prohibited a MLB team and AAA in the same city. For that reason, it all just feels like a bluff to me.

[sveumrules]

Kapler, plus the pitching/hitting coaches & head/assistant trainers, fired in Philly.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Kapler, plus the pitching/hitting coaches & head/assistant trainers, fired in Philly.

 

And they'll hire some big name to replace him. And then go out and spend a ton of money again. And they will be one of the darlings going into the 2020 season yet again, and fall short because they have no clue how to actually build a winning team. Just like the Mets.

 

Wash, rinse, repeat.

[homer]

I still want to know what the plan would be for the AAA team that just built a brand new stadium 15 minutes away from the proposed stadium locations (Rio site and Henderson). For the life of me I thought there was a MLB rule that prohibited a MLB team and AAA in the same city. For that reason, it all just feels like a bluff to me.

 

I don't know if there's a rule but if MLB wanted an MLB team in Las Vegas you can bet the AAA team would be outta there. Denver Zephyrs moved to New Orleans when the Rockies started up.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Oakland doesn't deserve the A's. I'd support them moving. If any pro team has a valid claim for a better stadium, it's them. I'm generally against it when teams whine for new stadiums. I supported the Bucks because I just wanted the Bucks to have a new stadium, but impartially, I understand people who are against it. But the A's been so successful with such constraints...if they can't get the place to spring for a new park, they should leave.

[MadThinker88]

Oakland & Tampa have the worst stadium situations.

At least people are still showing up in Oakland. Can't say that with Tampa.

 

I would favor Tampa moving 1st..

[jerichoholicninja]

If you didn't hate the Cardinals enough already, head over to Twitter and watch Mike Schilt's profanity-laced post game speech after they beat the Braves. To sum it up for you, the Braves "started something" and the Cardinals "finished it" (you can mentally add a bunch of F bombs where ever you like to get the full feel of it).

 

What it must feel like to a member of the Cardinals where you view everything that happens on the field through the lens of respect or playing the "right way" or any other crap. If you haven't yet, go read "Three Nights in August" to get in the head of Tony LaRussa. One of the things he laments in the book is how every time one of his batters get hit he needs to decide if it was on purpose and how and when to retaliate. Nothing would make me happier than to see that whole organization burned to the ground and the ashes shot into the sun.

[DHonks]

There’s lots of interest for the As in the Bay Area. When I was in college there 20 years ago, they announced plans to build a ballpark adjacent to Six Flags in San Jose. I think They’ve announced similar plans several other times, but to no avail. The Giants’ territorial rights are too strong. I’d love the As in Vegas. Great town. The AAA team would likely move.

[Ennder]

Kapler, plus the pitching/hitting coaches & head/assistant trainers, fired in Philly.

 

And they'll hire some big name to replace him. And then go out and spend a ton of money again. And they will be one of the darlings going into the 2020 season yet again, and fall short because they have no clue how to actually build a winning team. Just like the Mets.

 

Wash, rinse, repeat.

 

I don't disagree with this but Kapler really was a bad manager as well, hard to fault them for this.