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Goldy, so far not inspiring

I hadn’t paid much attention to the Cardinals recently so I just looked at Goldschmidt’s last 30 days before Sunday (May 15th - June 15th). Over those past 27 games he has just four extra base hits total (two doubles and two home runs) as well as a .242 BA and .672 OPS. I know he came on strong later in the season last year, but that is a rough stretch after a good start to the season (versus the Brewers at least).

 

EDIT: He did hit a home run on Sunday.

 

Goldy's pedestrian numbers are a surprise to see because every time he plays the Brewers you'd think he was the GOAT.

 

 

His numbers against Milwaukee this year:

 

436/511/949

 

I don't have time to do this right now but if you take out the Milwaukee numbers his line must be absolutely awful.

"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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The solution to struggling to build a stadium? Build two! Will be interesting to see where this goes. Though I suspect this is more of a threat/ploy to put pressure on St. Pete and/or Tampa to pay for a new stadium than it is a serious plan.

 

But if it happens, would they then be the ExRays?

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Woah...

 

 

I believe eventually they would choose one city. The one will to build a new stadium.

 

They want both cities to build stadiums. Typical MLB doing just about the dumbest thing possible.

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Woah...

 

 

I believe eventually they would choose one city. The one will to build a new stadium.

 

They want both cities to build stadiums. Typical MLB doing just about the dumbest thing possible.

 

What is the smart move here? The current situation in Tampa needs to be resolved so something needs to be done.

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Woah...

 

 

I believe eventually they would choose one city. The one will to build a new stadium.

 

They want both cities to build stadiums. Typical MLB doing just about the dumbest thing possible.

 

What is the smart move here? The current situation in Tampa needs to be resolved so something needs to be done.

 

Not alienating a fan base? Threatening to move permanently is a lot better option than saying we'll play the first half of our home games in Tampa and the second half in Montreal, both with garbage stadiums and we know neither city is going to build a new stadium if they're only getting half the games.

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Not alienating a fan base? Threatening to move permanently is a lot better option than saying we'll play the first half of our home games in Tampa and the second half in Montreal, both with garbage stadiums and we know neither city is going to build a new stadium if they're only getting half the games.

 

A split-season seems like the less alienating move. I think everyone knows this wouldn't be a permanent situation, similar to how Montreal played part of their season Puerto Rico for a while.

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Snowbirds line is great, well done.

 

Being a somewhat Vegas regular/insider it's my understanding that an MLB stadium is as good as happening in Vegas. OAK is the easier and more logical move but someone is gonna end up there and TB seems more urgent of a situation. It would just get weird trying to move around divisions. One of the TX teams would likely have to move to the central and Cleveland or Det to the East. Messes up old rivalries quite a bit.

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I also heard the Vegas rumor. In this era where stadium=money it’s clear that any group who can push a stadium through is going to get a team and the more they can mooch off the taxpayers the better. Crazy how welfare for billionaires is considered acceptable.
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Lol, where is this Vegas stuff coming from? I live here and work in real estate. They just built a brand new AAA stadium that opened last month. They are building a stadium for the Raiders. They already built a hockey arena and host an NHL team. And they have a site excavated for a 2nd arena that could host an NBA team. None of those things add up to a MLB team coming here. They'd be 4th in line and in direct opposition to the newly constructed AAA stadium. The population couldn't support it. I'd seriously question those sources.
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I also heard the Vegas rumor. In this era where stadium=money it’s clear that any group who can push a stadium through is going to get a team and the more they can mooch off the taxpayers the better. Crazy how welfare for billionaires is considered acceptable.

 

 

I see almost no scenario in which Vegas is going to be able to support all these major sports franchises.

 

 

The Raiders...fine. They're just a draw. 8 games, people will go on vacation or it will give them a reason to make the trip from LA, Oakland, wherever.

 

The Rays to Vegas though? They're already struggling playing in a place that a large pct of the population moves to. If Montreal would build a nice stadium, that'd probably be the best route for everyone. They're such a well run organization, if they had an extra 20-30 million a year, they'd be that much more dangerous.

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Not alienating a fan base? Threatening to move permanently is a lot better option than saying we'll play the first half of our home games in Tampa and the second half in Montreal, both with garbage stadiums and we know neither city is going to build a new stadium if they're only getting half the games.

 

Alienate the 10-12,000 people a night that come to the stadium now, a good chunk of whom I'm sure are fans of the opposing team? I don't think it really makes a difference nor does ownership care.

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Lets see. Build a new stadium in two cities that never really supported their teams, even when they were winning, at a time when attendance is down across baseball. Sounds like a great idea.

At some point if baseball wants to actually grow they might want to invest in places like Mexico where there is genuine interest in the game and hasn't shown itself to be totally disinterested in going to games. It might mean baseball or the owners actually (gasp) have to pay for the stadium but it might help the declining attendance. Somewhere along the line MLB is going to have to invest it's own money into the league to grow it. I can't think of a better way than opening new markets in places where it could actually grow over time. One would think they'd think about the long term health of the league and stop putting teams where nobody cares and expect them to suddenly care.

There needs to be a King Thames version of the bible.
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Instead of moving the team between cities, they should move the stadium.
"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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As the article hints to towards the end, there is absolutely no buzz in Las Vegas for major league baseball. People seem very happy with the nice new minor league stadium and AAA baseball. I hear buzz about the NBA all the time. And with the popularity of the Golden Knights and the excitement over the Raiders imminent arrival, I just can't see the appeal to move a team here and be 4th in line. This market ranks one spot above Kansas City.

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The Mets hired a pitching coach that is so old he literally has pitched against Ted Williams in his lifetime in an MLB game.

 

Phil Regan's manager was Jimmy Dykes. Jimmy Dykes' manager was Connie Mack. Connie Mack was the A's manager in 1898. This dude is 2 steps from the 1800's.

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I wonder what Goldschmidt's numbers this year against everyone but the Brewers. There were quite a few posters going nuts that we didn't trade for him and give him a big deal but he is struggling. Thames, which a lot of people want to replace, is outproducing him.
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The Mets hired a pitching coach that is so old he literally has pitched against Ted Williams in his lifetime in an MLB game.

 

Phil Regan's manager was Jimmy Dykes. Jimmy Dykes' manager was Connie Mack. Connie Mack was the A's manager in 1898. This dude is 2 steps from the 1800's.

 

Really good interview with Regan over at FG. He got the nickname "the vulture" from Sandy Koufax when he came on in relief & "vultured" some of his wins.

 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/a-conversation-with-phil-the-vulture-regan/

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I personally don't think MLB would work well in Vegas either. Games too long, too hot in the summer, not an 'event' to travel to for road fans, stadium likely would be far off strip, now have NFL/NHL already, etc. My guess is that it would make sense to see how NFL/NHL do for a few years before investing more unless it's for the NBA (which is perfect for Vegas and blowing up in general in popularity). NHL is killing it so far but it's skewed by the team immediately being good, what happens if they're not?

 

But, that doesn't mean an investor isn't trying to do it. As noted, there is two teams currently in desperate need of a new home. And of course VEgas has never been a spot that gets shy about going big. Still, i think you'd be an idiot to build an MLB stadium without a team committed to use it. It's not like when they built TMobile Arena, even if they failed on NHL/NBA the building would still be used for so much else.

 

Initially the rumor was the Rio is being destroyed and the plan was using that for the stadium. Within the last few months I saw that rumor I think got squashed (though if I remember Rio going away is still happening) but there was now a different site. I don't recall the details on that one but one would think if people are exploring this they've at least had some back channel talks with TB/OAK about moving. That said, I likely used poor phrasing on my initial post on the topic implying it was more 'done' than it is.

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I personally don't think Vegas would work well in Vegas either. Games too long, too hot in the summer, not an 'event' to travel to for road fans, stadium likely would be far off strip, now have NFL/NHL already, etc.

 

Not an "event" to travel to for road fans? I would easily go to Vegas to see the Brewers for a 3 game series, and I'm not a Vegas guy by any means. Cheap plane tix and rooms and endless things to do and see and eat when not going to the game. They'd have to be in an A/C dome though.

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I personally don't think Vegas would work well in Vegas either. Games too long, too hot in the summer, not an 'event' to travel to for road fans, stadium likely would be far off strip, now have NFL/NHL already, etc.

 

Not an "event" to travel to for road fans? I would easily go to Vegas to see the Brewers for a 3 game series, and I'm not a Vegas guy by any means. Cheap plane tix and rooms and endless things to do and see and eat when not going to the game. They'd have to be in an A/C dome though.

 

Well maybe it would be moreso than I think. I was generally thinking of it 'relative' to an NFL game though. Yes, of course some will plan a trip around for baseball or NBA. But I would assume over 50% of fans attending Raider games will be road teams traveling in and the Raiders won't have attendance issues due to this influx. Note that I have no idea the estimated percentages for their NHL right now and how much people are traveling in for it. It seems the attendance is great though. But still with so many games in a season for all other sports it just seems each game is less of an event or spectacle than it is for football. I would just guess it's not a huge factor for hockey for a random Tuesday night regular season game, but yes I don't know. Again though, I just meant relative to NFL.

 

Still can't believe UW hasn't played a game at UNLV in forever now. Feel like they should have a regular 2 for 1 with them every few years with a few off years in between. Especially now with the new stadium coming in LV.

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