2019 Brewers' pitching staff

[MNBrew]

If Williams controls his wildness he could be real threat out of the bullpen.

 

 

I think he's a really nice breakout candidate. He missed two years, came back last year, earned a role on the team, though was up and down. But his command should be coming back now that he's finally got a healthy off-season to train and a full ST'ing.

 

Also, still holding out hope for Jacob Barnes. He's got the stuff to be dominant.

Still, really concerning that we went from looking at Jeffress, Knebel, and Wahl to finish up games to having names like Claudio, Wilson and Fields being tossed around.

Claudio is a proven major leaguer who was in the mix since the end of the Winter Meetings. Wahl has much less MLB experience and was definitely a wild card going into ST, albeit a wild card with a potentially higher ceiling. That said, Wahl was never a serious candidate to close games until he'd built up a track record that proved he belonged in that kind of role. I was rooting for him to be a factor, too, and I'm bummed he's out for the year, but he was hardly a sure thing.

[Brew crew 92]

If Williams controls his wildness he could be real threat out of the bullpen.

 

 

I think he's a really nice breakout candidate. He missed two years, came back last year, earned a role on the team, though was up and down. But his command should be coming back now that he's finally got a healthy off-season to train and a full ST'ing.

 

Also, still holding out hope for Jacob Barnes. He's got the stuff to be dominant.

Still, really concerning that we went from looking at Jeffress, Knebel, and Wahl to finish up games to having names like Claudio, Wilson and Fields being tossed around.

 

From potential super pen to 3rd best pen in central. Wow how the Mighty have fallen. Only disagreement I’ve had in anything I’ve read of yours is Barnes.better in 2017 pitches scared. My opinion.

[OnTheBlack]

If Williams controls his wildness he could be real threat out of the bullpen.

 

 

I think he's a really nice breakout candidate. He missed two years, came back last year, earned a role on the team, though was up and down. But his command should be coming back now that he's finally got a healthy off-season to train and a full ST'ing.

 

Also, still holding out hope for Jacob Barnes. He's got the stuff to be dominant.

Still, really concerning that we went from looking at Jeffress, Knebel, and Wahl to finish up games to having names like Claudio, Wilson and Fields being tossed around.

 

From potential super pen to 3rd best pen in central. Wow how the Mighty have fallen. Only disagreement I’ve had in anything I’ve read of yours is Barnes.better in 2017 pitches scared. My opinion.

 

 

Well, we haven't seen him pitch this year. He has the ability to do what Knebel did, throw that upper 90's fastball up and then throw that dominant slider as a put-away pitch.

 

The difference being he hasn't shown he can throw that slider early in the count to get ahead which leads to him being behind in the count and guys sitting on that fastball.

 

But he's young and guys progress.

[Brew crew 92]

Yes haven’t seen him pitch this year, but last year he was down three or 4 mph on his fastball from 2017. To me it look like he was throwing a cutter but was told fan graphs said it was a fastball. His stuff certainly isn’t a problem though.

[Eye Black]

Did I hear somewhere that Peralta's velocity was up this spring? That was the thing that concerned me about his repertoire. Hard to fool guys with a deceptive delivery long term without a little juice to back you up.

I may have missed that, but we should know today since he is pitching at Salt River Fields which is the AZ Spring Training park with publicly available data including pitch velocity and movement. The outing details should be on Brooks Baseball baseball by tonight or tomorrow.

 

Thanks for the heads up!

Here are the details of Freddy’s outing from yesterday: March 24th Outing Link

 

It appears he was mostly between 93 to 95-mph with the fastball, but did touch 96-mph on a couple of occasions. One thing to keep in mind is Brooks Baseball measures velocity from 55-ft (as opposed to 50-ft), so their pitch speeds are always a slight tick higher than other resources.

[FVBrewerFan]

Please stop. We don't need 8 more pages of this back and forth. He was wrong, and will never admit it. We all know this, so let's move on.

[Brew crew 92]

You just quoted me saying they won't have any set piggybacks. Thank you. They do have two starters in the bullpen though. Hmmm.

 

Wait and see.

 

If you consider Guerra the second starter, I’m curious how brewers gonna deploy him with 2 high leverage arms most likely out for some time. My guess would be closing, since he’s probably the second best pen arm now.

 

I know you weren't asking me, but I suspect they'll go "closer by committee" approach, at least until Jeffress is back. It wouldn't surprise me to see Guerra get opportunities, along with Hader, Claudio, Williams and maybe even Barnes, based entirely on matchups. Once Jeffress is back, and if he checks out physically, I suspect he'll get the bulk of the 9th inning opportunities, just like he did last year while Knebel was out and during his ineffective time.

 

Please no Williams and Barnes. Both need to stay far away from 9th inning. Just don’t have the confidence some do in jeffress this year. 83 mph scares me.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

 

Please no Williams and Barnes. Both need to stay far away from 9th inning. Just don’t have the confidence some do in jeffress this year. 83 mph scares me.

 

Scares me too. Hoping that was just a blip, and JJ will be back throwing his typical mid-90s stuff by mid-April. Perhaps that is overly naive and optimistic, but I'm a big JJ guy and want to see him succeed.

 

Don't sleep on Taylor Williams. Upper 90s heat with great breaking stuff. His trouble has been consistently finding the zone. I'm hoping that coming back healthy and another year removed from TJ surgery will help him with his consistency.

[Brew crew 92]

 

Please no Williams and Barnes. Both need to stay far away from 9th inning. Just don’t have the confidence some do in jeffress this year. 83 mph scares me.

 

Scares me too. Hoping that was just a blip, and JJ will be back throwing his typical mid-90s stuff by mid-April. Perhaps that is overly naive and optimistic, but I'm a big JJ guy and want to see him succeed.

 

Don't sleep on Taylor Williams. Upper 90s heat with great breaking stuff. His trouble has been consistently finding the zone. I'm hoping that coming back healthy and another year removed from TJ surgery will help him with his consistency.

 

Williams is fine just not the ninth. The key to the Brewers early-season pen is going to come down to Matt Alber, he’s one of only 2 pen arms with real closing experience. I wish we could transfer Matt Albers brain into Barnes head there’d be our answer.

[homer]

Peralta averaged 94+ on his fastball yesterday. That's about 2 mph better than he was throwing last October and over 3 mph better than when he was a starter. Me excite.

 

[homer]

Here are the details of Freddy’s outing from yesterday: March 24th Outing Link

 

It appears he was mostly between 93 to 95-mph with the fastball, but did touch 96-mph on a couple of occasions. One thing to keep in mind is Brooks Baseball measures velocity from 55-ft (as opposed to 50-ft), so their pitch speeds are always a slight tick higher than other resources.

 

D'oh! Missed this. Thanks for posting. I can't wait to see what he can do with that extra velo.

[homer]

Please stop. We don't need 8 more pages of this back and forth. He was wrong, and will never admit it. We all know this, so let's move on.

 

Agreed. I just composted a bunch of posts. Stop it or you will get a time out.

[FVBrewerFan]

Here are the details of Freddy’s outing from yesterday: March 24th Outing Link

 

It appears he was mostly between 93 to 95-mph with the fastball, but did touch 96-mph on a couple of occasions. One thing to keep in mind is Brooks Baseball measures velocity from 55-ft (as opposed to 50-ft), so their pitch speeds are always a slight tick higher than other resources.

 

D'oh! Missed this. Thanks for posting. I can't wait to see what he can do with that extra velo.

 

Note that the Brooks chart has "change" listed at 90.52. A change-up at 91/01 doesn't make much sense, nor does a spread of only 4 mph between Fb/Ch.

 

I think what we're seeing here is his split(ish) fastball is being recorded as a change. Fangraphs has always included those two pitches together under fb. Bottom line, he may have another tick on his fb this year, but a lot of the difference could be explained away in how it is being recorded.

[tmwiese55]

Came here exactly to look for info on Peralt's change up progression. Based on that link he only threw 5 changes out of 58 pitches in that outing. So at least he's throwing it but for those more in the know on this how has it progressed, does it seem like he really improved it, will he use it a lot, etc? I think that's the key for him taking the next step up. With his crazy delivery a good change would work great.

[KeithStone53151]

Came here exactly to look for info on Peralt's change up progression. Based on that link he only threw 5 changes out of 58 pitches in that outing. So at least he's throwing it but for those more in the know on this how has it progressed, does it seem like he really improved it, will he use it a lot, etc? I think that's the key for him taking the next step up. With his crazy delivery a good change would work great.

 

With how quick guys have to make a decision based on release point on a potential 94 mph cut fastball on the hands or a changeup dropping away...even an average changeup with at least a little arm-side run thrown that percentage of the time is going to play up big time.

 

I'm so curious how Peralta's arsenal will play. That extra velocity and an average changeup could yield a star. Even without the changeup, he could be the next Kluber...I'll feel so much better about his outlook if he gets a few swings and missed on changeups in April.

[FVBrewerFan]

Again, I don't believe that's his change-up. A change only 4 mph less than fb? I think we're seeing his split fb being recorded as a change.

[tmwiese55]

Again, I don't believe that's his change-up. A change only 4 mph less than fb? I think we're seeing his split fb being recorded as a change.

 

Gotcha. Either way it's not the ideal hope we're going for then. If it's actually a split then frankly he's still not throwing a change. If it is a change but it's barely slower than the FB then it's just not a good one. Doesn't mean he still can't be very good, I just think a competent change would be an awesome weapon for him due to his release.

[Brew crew 92]

Came here exactly to look for info on Peralt's change up progression. Based on that link he only threw 5 changes out of 58 pitches in that outing. So at least he's throwing it but for those more in the know on this how has it progressed, does it seem like he really improved it, will he use it a lot, etc? I think that's the key for him taking the next step up. With his crazy delivery a good change would work great.

 

With how quick guys have to make a decision based on release point on a potential 94 mph cut fastball on the hands or a changeup dropping away...even an average changeup with at least a little arm-side run thrown that percentage of the time is going to play up big time.

 

I'm so curious how Peralta's arsenal will play. That extra velocity and an average changeup could yield a star. Even without the changeup, he could be the next Kluber...I'll feel so much better about his outlook if he gets a few swings and missed on changeups in April.

 

Peralta’s pitches are fine the way they are, command of his FB is the only thing keeping him from being the most dominating pitcher in all of baseball. Strong words but true. He’s made progress every year, slow but progress none the less. Just want to see him get to 175-180 innings this year, so can really get turned loose next year.

[KeithStone53151]

With how quick guys have to make a decision based on release point on a potential 94 mph cut fastball on the hands or a changeup dropping away...even an average changeup with at least a little arm-side run thrown that percentage of the time is going to play up big time.

 

I'm so curious how Peralta's arsenal will play. That extra velocity and an average changeup could yield a star. Even without the changeup, he could be the next Kluber...I'll feel so much better about his outlook if he gets a few swings and missed on changeups in April.

 

Peralta’s pitches are fine the way they are, command of his FB is the only thing keeping him from being the most dominating pitcher in all of baseball. Strong words but true. He’s made progress every year, slow but progress none the less. Just want to see him get to 175-180 innings this year, so can really get turned loose next year.

 

The list of guys that have had success on multiple different fastballs and one breaking pitch is very very short. Kluber and Arrieta are the only guys I can think of that have had sustained success on similar arsenals over the last 5-10 years. Every other starter either has a change up or multiple different breaking pitches to help him get through an order multiple times. Hence why I think a changeup is so important for him. I'm concerned that MLB hitters will quickly adapt to a 2-2.5 pitch arsenal. Multiple different fastballs might not be enough to consistently beat MLB hitters by throwing them and a curve with fringy command. I would argue a changeup and/or improved curveball command are more important than those extra couple ticks of velocity that he reportedly found this year.

[FVBrewerFan]

Again, I don't believe that's his change-up. A change only 4 mph less than fb? I think we're seeing his split fb being recorded as a change.

 

Gotcha. Either way it's not the ideal hope we're going for then. If it's actually a split then frankly he's still not throwing a change. If it is a change but it's barely slower than the FB then it's just not a good one. Doesn't mean he still can't be very good, I just think a competent change would be an awesome weapon for him due to his release.

 

His two FBs are so different they really do "act" like two different pitches. Not just speed, but how they play. You can almost think of it in terms of FB/slider. So all he needs is either a curve or change that is good enough to keep them honest. For the most part, his curve does that. His success is almost all about fb location. That said, sure, if he could really command a curve and change he would be Cy young candidate in the future.

[tmwiese55]

Yup, not saying he's doomed without it or anything. Still think he has a great chance to be really good. Just kind of day dreaming in a way on how awesome that pitch could be for him with his delivery. Very K Rod esqe.

[FVBrewerFan]

Yup, not saying he's doomed without it or anything. Still think he has a great chance to be really good. Just kind of day dreaming in a way on how awesome that pitch could be for him with his delivery. Very K Rod esqe.

 

OMG, if he had a KRod change-up it would be game, set, match.

[Brew crew 92]

An offense that averages 5+ runs can overcome an average bullpen. At least I think it can I hope, until our pen gets stronger as the year progresses. I have enough faith in stearns to figure it out. I think this pitching will improve dramatically from start to finish. Tread water early will bold well late when like last year this team should be a juggernaut in October.

[Lathund]

Writeups on a couple of Brewers starters who stood out this spring. This guy is extremely high on Woodruff's ceiling.

 

https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/scouting-11-pitchers-who-stood-out-this-spring/

[Brew crew 92]

Writeups on a couple of Brewers starters who stood out this spring. This guy is extremely high on Woodruff's ceiling.

 

https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/scouting-11-pitchers-who-stood-out-this-spring/

 

Thanks for the info!

 

Exciting to read a scout blown away like we are with Woody.

 

Also confirming what some us think on Brown in Milwaukee this year.