Packers to hire LaFleur (page 8), Hackett hired as OC (page 13)

[3and2Fastball]

Eric Bienamy would be my choice

[MillerParkSouth]

I really don't like how Murphy is the final decision maker and is seeming to be getting his hands more involved in the field level details. We don't need a meddling owner, especially since he's not even our owner!

[FVBrewerFan]

I think you can see if the philosophy fits with a QB without having them be a part of the hiring process. That would be a really bad precedent to set and an even worse look for Rodgers than he already looks like right now.

 

What precedent? If the next QB is as good as Rodgers, he can have a say in who the HC, OC, and/or QB coach is as well. What's the downside? It's not like you're letting Rodgers pick the HC, but maybe he would buy-in if he's at least involved.

[PeaveyFury]

Honest question, with high-profile, high-success college guys like Saban, Spurrier, and Chip Kelly flopping in the NFL, who is the last college guy to come in and succeed in the NFL? Jim Harbaugh?

 

 

Extremely small sample size.

 

Isn't that telling in and of itself? Probably dozens of guys that were qualified for NFL jobs over the past couple of decades, and there aren't many that got an NFL calling. Is it because NFL GMs don't think the game translates well between those levels?

 

It really is the guys like Carroll who cut their teeth in the NFL, have success in the NCAA, then come back and have some NFL success. The guys with the 'innovative college offenses' haven't jumped well, historically.

[FVBrewerFan]

Honest question, with high-profile, high-success college guys like Saban, Spurrier, and Chip Kelly flopping in the NFL, who is the last college guy to come in and succeed in the NFL? Jim Harbaugh?

 

 

Extremely small sample size.

 

Isn't that telling in and of itself? Probably dozens of guys that were qualified for NFL jobs over the past couple of decades, and there aren't many that got an NFL calling. Is it because NFL GMs don't think the game translates well between those levels?

 

It really is the guys like Carroll who cut their teeth in the NFL, have success in the NCAA, then come back and have some NFL success. The guys with the 'innovative college offenses' haven't jumped well, historically.

 

Good points. NFL is evolving though, offenses are starting to look more like Texas Tech. 20 something GMs in MLB was unthinkable not that long ago. All Im saying is you need to be open to it, dont limit your options just because it hasnt been done.

[NeedMoreFans]

who is the last college guy to come in and succeed in the NFL?

 

Bill O'Brien has been decent for Houston.

[nodakfan17]

who is the last college guy to come in and succeed in the NFL?

 

Bill O'Brien has been decent for Houston.

True, but he also spent 5 years on the Patriots’ staff prior to his 2 years at Penn State.

[PeaveyFury]

 

Good points. NFL is evolving though, offenses are starting to look more like Texas Tech. 20 something GMs in MLB was unthinkable not that long ago. All Im saying is you need to be open to it, dont limit your options just because it hasnt been done.

 

Thanks, and I think this is fair too. I hope they hire the right guy wherever he comes from, not just whoever the hot name is. Mike Sherman and Mike McCarthy weren't hot names, but they were pretty good fits.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

I really haven't a clue who they should hire. Just hope they get it right.

[CheezWizHed]

How about a high school coach jumping to the NFL? I saw someone joking about Brett Favre being the next HC. That is wrong on so many levels...

[superfly]

I'm wary of college hires. Maybe if this franchise were on the edge of a true reboot I'd be ok with giving one a try, but with Rodgers here it's not my preference. Not saying it can't work though.

 

I like McDaniels. He has some prior HC experience and while he wasn't successful with Denver not all guys are their 1st time. Belichick himself is one. There is some thought out there that coaching Rodgers could be an intimidating challenge for the next coach. I think McDaniels would be up to the task. Being able to say he coached Tom Brady (McDaniels is listed as the OC & QBs coach for the Patriots) is a nice thing to have on his resume. Everyone knows Brady can get a little fiery when he thinks things aren't going the way they should be. We also know he is an OC that calls his own plays and runs his own offense and has won Super Bowls doing so.

 

I am done being a Packer fan if we hire McDaniels. After he hung the Colts high and dry (as well as the staff he hired) he doesn't belong getting any interviews anywhere IMO. A sure sign of immaturity.

[LouisEly]

I'm wary of college hires. Maybe if this franchise were on the edge of a true reboot I'd be ok with giving one a try, but with Rodgers here it's not my preference. Not saying it can't work though.

 

I like McDaniels. He has some prior HC experience and while he wasn't successful with Denver not all guys are their 1st time. Belichick himself is one. There is some thought out there that coaching Rodgers could be an intimidating challenge for the next coach. I think McDaniels would be up to the task. Being able to say he coached Tom Brady (McDaniels is listed as the OC & QBs coach for the Patriots) is a nice thing to have on his resume. Everyone knows Brady can get a little fiery when he thinks things aren't going the way they should be. We also know he is an OC that calls his own plays and runs his own offense and has won Super Bowls doing so.

 

I am done being a Packer fan if we hire McDaniels. After he hung the Colts high and dry (as well as the staff he hired) he doesn't belong getting any interviews anywhere IMO. A sure sign of immaturity.

Agreed. I'll give McDaniels a pass for Denver - plenty of great HC's failed at their first shot at HC, including Belichek.

 

I won't give McDaniels a pass for Indy. And I sure as hell don't trust McDaniels to stay here when Belichek decides to retire. For all we know, Kraft promised McDaniels the HC job in NE when Belichek retires and that's why he bailed on Indy.

 

My definition of integrity is "you do what you say you are going to do". McDaniels has no integrity as far as I'm concerned, and that's the last thing I want in a HC.

[pacopete4]

How about a high school coach jumping to the NFL? I saw someone joking about Brett Favre being the next HC. That is wrong on so many levels...

 

I’d hire Peyton Manning in an instant.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

What is the big deal about McDaniels bailing on Indy? I don't get it. So he took another chance to be a HC then realized he didn't want to do it there. What if he realized quickly it was a toxic environment for him? There are so many variables there I don't understand why it's a big deal at all. People reneg on job offers every day.

 

It seems like one of those things a radio guy decided to be indignant about and then people just ran with it...I couldn't care less about him doing that there if the Packers determined he was their guy.

 

And you're done being a fan if they hire him? Really? But not after they sign Johnny Jolly?

[SeaBass]

I'm wary of college hires. Maybe if this franchise were on the edge of a true reboot I'd be ok with giving one a try, but with Rodgers here it's not my preference. Not saying it can't work though.

 

I like McDaniels. He has some prior HC experience and while he wasn't successful with Denver not all guys are their 1st time. Belichick himself is one. There is some thought out there that coaching Rodgers could be an intimidating challenge for the next coach. I think McDaniels would be up to the task. Being able to say he coached Tom Brady (McDaniels is listed as the OC & QBs coach for the Patriots) is a nice thing to have on his resume. Everyone knows Brady can get a little fiery when he thinks things aren't going the way they should be. We also know he is an OC that calls his own plays and runs his own offense and has won Super Bowls doing so.

 

I am done being a Packer fan if we hire McDaniels. After he hung the Colts high and dry (as well as the staff he hired) he doesn't belong getting any interviews anywhere IMO. A sure sign of immaturity.

Agreed. I'll give McDaniels a pass for Denver - plenty of great HC's failed at their first shot at HC, including Belichek.

 

I won't give McDaniels a pass for Indy. And I sure as hell don't trust McDaniels to stay here when Belichek decides to retire. For all we know, Kraft promised McDaniels the HC job in NE when Belichek retires and that's why he bailed on Indy.

 

My definition of integrity is "you do what you say you are going to do". McDaniels has no integrity as far as I'm concerned, and that's the last thing I want in a HC.

Belichick did the same thing to the Jets. He's now the most respected coach in the game. He may not be the most liked but even those that don't like him respect him.

 

McDaniels going back to NE post Belichick, post Brady... I don't know, I'd assume he'd have to be offered a ton of money and the dual role Belichick has now, GM and coach. We know he's not getting that in Green Bay, at least not right away and likely not ever. That's the risk I guess. Holmgren left for that reason, do we hate him?

 

How much longer is Kraft even going to be an effective owner? He's 77. Those guys are all aging. What's the alure 3 years from now in NE that's going to trump a hopefully much improved Packers team?

 

Otherwise I don't have much concern about him. He's made his one big character mistake with the Indy fiasco, if he does something like that again, that's it for him. Career suicide, he'd be committed to NE then and would have next to zero leverage for pay raises.

 

I choose to believe McDaniels is intelligent enough to understand this.

 

I understand simply not liking the guy, that's fair. The only question I'm concerned with is can he be a good coach in Green Bay, and I believe he can.

[PeaveyFury]

Belichick did the same thing to the Jets.

 

Yep. It's amazing that it doesn't even get talked about, honestly. Winning causes a lot of things to be forgotten.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Let me clarify I doubt McDaniels is the guy, but in a league where you can be fired a year or two from winning a title, I don't really have any issues with players or coaches "hanging teams out to dry." Happens in businesses all over the world every day. Always look out for yourself. That's all he did IMO.

[jerichoholicninja]

What is the big deal about McDaniels bailing on Indy? I don't get it. So he took another chance to be a HC then realized he didn't want to do it there. What if he realized quickly it was a toxic environment for him? There are so many variables there I don't understand why it's a big deal at all. People reneg on job offers every day.

 

It seems like one of those things a radio guy decided to be indignant about and then people just ran with it...I couldn't care less about him doing that there if the Packers determined he was their guy.

 

And you're done being a fan if they hire him? Really? But not after they sign Johnny Jolly?

 

Because Patriots and it's fashionable to hate on them.

[MrTPlush]

I think any half intelligent person would want to be out of New England once Tom and Bill retire. At least it would not seem like a mega attractive location...you could probably do better.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

I heard a snippet on the local sports talk radio station this morning that said Lincoln Riley has already reached out to the Packers to express interest in the job. Obviously all rumors right now, but he's sure to be a hot name after Black Monday. He's known as an offensive coach and dynamic playcaller who would bring youth and enthusiasm to the coaching staff. I would hope that if he's the choice, he'd keep Pettine on as the DC, but change over some of the positional coaches. Winston Moss needs to go away.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

I heard a snippet on the local sports talk radio station this morning that said Lincoln Riley has already reached out to the Packers to express interest in the job. Obviously all rumors right now, but he's sure to be a hot name after Black Monday. He's known as an offensive coach and dynamic playcaller who would bring youth and enthusiasm to the coaching staff. I would hope that if he's the choice, he'd keep Pettine on as the DC, but change over some of the positional coaches. Winston Moss needs to go away.

 

The bizarre exchange with Moss last summer was the first sign of something awry IMO.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

I heard a snippet on the local sports talk radio station this morning that said Lincoln Riley has already reached out to the Packers to express interest in the job. Obviously all rumors right now, but he's sure to be a hot name after Black Monday. He's known as an offensive coach and dynamic playcaller who would bring youth and enthusiasm to the coaching staff. I would hope that if he's the choice, he'd keep Pettine on as the DC, but change over some of the positional coaches. Winston Moss needs to go away.

 

The bizarre exchange with Moss last summer was the first sign of something awry IMO.

 

Exactly. The fact that the team allowed that to happen without any repercussions (at least publicly) was a black eye in my mind. The media wasn't doing anything out of the ordinary to deserve that kind of weird treatment. I'm sure that, regardless of who is eventually brought in as coach, many of McCarthy's pet guys like Moss, Whitt, Campen and Zook will likely be out.

[homer]

I like Pettine but I am also ok with the new guy bringing in whomever he wants.

[SeaBass]

I like Pettine but I am also ok with the new guy bringing in whomever he wants.

I'm in this boat also, if it works out that Pettine sticks around all the better but I'm not going to worry too much about it if he's let go.

 

Honestly, him leaving could just as easily be his preference with a turnover in the coaching staff, maybe he would rather see what's out there after a successful return to the league as DC.

[JohnBriggs12]

I really like Fitzgerald but I wonder if his rah rah thing would work in the NFL? His teams are always very solid and they have an innovative offense.

 

Their offense isn't all that innovative and why would Fitzgerald give up the security of a contract that runs until 2030?