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Brewer arbitration settlements/Tender Decisions [Latest: Knebel & others agree to deals]

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I think the Brewers will be getting left-handed relief pitchers, but I wonder, with the money cleared by letting Schoop go, if Andrew Miller may be a target.

 

Jeffress, Knebel, Hader, Miller, Peralta would make for the heart of a devastating bullpen.

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[i am very surprised that he was non-tendered, given how the Brewers like to play matchups, and the dearth of lefty relievers currently available but on the roster and in the upper minors. Right now not only is Hader the only non-injured lefty on the active roster, ...

 

It wouldn't surprise me to see them go after a lefty starter, and at least 1-2 lefty relief arms, along with several minor league free agent NRI-types. If I'm a lefty reliever looking for a job, the Brewers have to be a prime candidate.

 

I hope the goal is to find something better and not to go into the season with 11 RHP's on the roster. I can understand why they'd want lots of relievers who can go multiple innings, and I can see the logic in saving a roster spot for guys with more upside, like Williams. But when all is said and done, if you look up and Hader is the only LHP in the pen, you're going to have a problem with match-ups. Even if every RHP reliever you keep is more valuable than Cedeno in a vacuum, that would constitute failing to see the forest for the trees.

 

Another thing is that even though you don't get a lot of use out of LOOGY's, just the threat of having one is a factor opponents have to consider when making their lineups. Start the season with a pen of Knebel, JJ, Williams, Barnes, Woodruff, Guerra, and Hader and opponents will have too much freedom in where they put their LHB's in their lineup on those many nights when Hader is unavailable.

 

I think that's 100 pct backwards. If you keep a soft tossing left handed specialist who can only go 1 hitter at a time in close situations and only gives you 30 innings a year over a hard throwing, far more talented right hander JUST because he's a left hander, that's failing to see the forest for the trees. You keep the more valuable players, the better players. Cedeno is just nothing special. He does his job and he gets out lefties and he's not the type of guy I'm against having, but not at the expense of Taylor Williams...or even Jacob Barnes.

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I doubt Miller can he had at 3 years and 18 million... Highly doubtful.

 

 

Agreed. If this was one yaer ago he'd be looking at 3 years 40 million. From what I've read he's open to a 1 year deal...I'd guess in the 10 million dollar range to prove he's still healthy and effective before signing next year for multiple years.

 

But if you can get him done for even close to 3/18, I'd do that in a heart beat.

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Nelson & the Brewers avoided arbitration today, settling at a $3.7M salary for 2019.

 

https://www.mlb.com/news/brewers-jimmy-nelson-agree-to-deal/c-301766368

 

With Nelson's salary set, six Brewers players remain eligible for arbitration: catcher Manny Pina, outfielder Domingo Santana, infielder Travis Shaw and right-handers Guerra, Davies and Corey Knebel.
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just for record keeping in this thread, it should be noted that erik kratz avoided arbitration prior to the non-tender deadline. like other arbitration-eligible players, the contract is not fully guaranteed until the season starts.

 

it should also be noted that newly acquired alex claudio is in his first year of arbitration eligibility. the brewers have yet to agree on a contract with him.

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friday is the deadline for players and teams to exchange salary figures.

 

alex claudio, zach davies, junior guerra, corey knebel, manny pina and travis shaw are the remaining arbitration-eligible players, as domingo santana was traded.

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MLBTraderumors snippet on Knebel:

 

Corey Knebel and the Brewers settled on a one-year, $5.125MM salary for the upcoming season, tweets Murray. The right-hander is in his second trip through arbitration as a Super Two player and had been projected at $4.9MM. He’s controlled through the 2021 season.

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[i am very surprised that he was non-tendered, given how the Brewers like to play matchups, and the dearth of lefty relievers currently available but on the roster and in the upper minors. Right now not only is Hader the only non-injured lefty on the active roster, ...

 

It wouldn't surprise me to see them go after a lefty starter, and at least 1-2 lefty relief arms, along with several minor league free agent NRI-types. If I'm a lefty reliever looking for a job, the Brewers have to be a prime candidate.

 

I hope the goal is to find something better and not to go into the season with 11 RHP's on the roster. I can understand why they'd want lots of relievers who can go multiple innings, and I can see the logic in saving a roster spot for guys with more upside, like Williams. But when all is said and done, if you look up and Hader is the only LHP in the pen, you're going to have a problem with match-ups. Even if every RHP reliever you keep is more valuable than Cedeno in a vacuum, that would constitute failing to see the forest for the trees.

 

Another thing is that even though you don't get a lot of use out of LOOGY's, just the threat of having one is a factor opponents have to consider when making their lineups. Start the season with a pen of Knebel, JJ, Williams, Barnes, Woodruff, Guerra, and Hader and opponents will have too much freedom in where they put their LHB's in their lineup on those many nights when Hader is unavailable.

 

I think that's 100 pct backwards. If you keep a soft tossing left handed specialist who can only go 1 hitter at a time in close situations and only gives you 30 innings a year over a hard throwing, far more talented right hander JUST because he's a left hander, that's failing to see the forest for the trees. You keep the more valuable players, the better players. Cedeno is just nothing special. He does his job and he gets out lefties and he's not the type of guy I'm against having, but not at the expense of Taylor Williams...or even Jacob Barnes.

 

Just seeing this now, but Barnes and Williams are your examples of "FAR more talented right handers"? That doesn't help your case. I definitely prefer a Cedeno over guys like that.

 

And sorry, but wanting to only have the more talented players regardless of role and match-ups is a textbook example of not seeing the forest for the trees. Really glad they got Claudio.

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