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THIS FARM SYSTEM IS SEVERELY UNDERRATED, especially in the pitching department. We have an awful lot of under the radar, pitchability type pitchers that don’t get the attention of most because of whatever reason. The Stearns regime has, imo, done an amazing job of drafting AND developing. The fruits of which, will, over the coming years, make themselves known quite loudly.

Who? Besides Woodruff. The Brewers have a bottom 10 farm system right now, they don't have a true game changer outside of Hiura, and he's about to graduate off the list anyway.

 

Too numerous to mention. But I’ll give you a couple, Houser and Rasmussen.

 

Houser’s already making a name for himself on the crew’s big league staff, Rasmussen’s had a meteoric rise up the ladder to AA, and has the arsenal of a Tor or dominant pen arm. Look for Devon Williams at some point later this year to make his debut with the crew in the pen, with his near 100 mph FB. You should get a opportunity to watch him pitch in the futures game coming up.

 

Tremendous depth of pitching all the way from The 2 Arizona rookie league teams thru AAA.

 

Don’t sleep on this pitching.

 

Let me play devil's advocate to your extreme optimism. Houser is 26 and probably not regarded as a prospect by anyone and certainly not thought of as a potentially game changing pitcher. It's nice to see what Rasmussen has done in a short period of time but the ceiling kind of caved in for an extended stretch in AA. He's exactly where he should be and probably should start there next year...next year being his age 25 season. The Devin Williams story is a nice one but velocity isn't everything and he's a potential back end of the pen type guy, at very best. An unfortunate bi-product of Josh Hader's success has been that many on this board now are looking for the "next Hader." Finally, I think we may need to differentiate between "tremendous depth" and "tremendous impact depth" because I don't see alot of impact right now. That's not a death sentence for what's there it's just saying that there aren't alot of guys that have proven anything.

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THIS FARM SYSTEM IS SEVERELY UNDERRATED, especially in the pitching department. We have an awful lot of under the radar, pitchability type pitchers that don’t get the attention of most because of whatever reason. The Stearns regime has, imo, done an amazing job of drafting AND developing. The fruits of which, will, over the coming years, make themselves known quite loudly.

Who? Besides Woodruff. The Brewers have a bottom 10 farm system right now, they don't have a true game changer outside of Hiura, and he's about to graduate off the list anyway.

 

Too numerous to mention. But I’ll give you a couple, Houser and Rasmussen.

 

Houser’s already making a name for himself on the crew’s big league staff, Rasmussen’s had a meteoric rise up the ladder to AA, and has the arsenal of a Tor or dominant pen arm. Look for Devon Williams at some point later this year to make his debut with the crew in the pen, with his near 100 mph FB. You should get a opportunity to watch him pitch in the futures game coming up.

 

Tremendous depth of pitching all the way from The 2 Arizona rookie league teams thru AAA.

 

Don’t sleep on this pitching.

That's not an answer. Anybody in rookie ball is immediately disqualified because they're several years away from knowing what any of them could be. Which leaves us with 4 teams rosters to choose from. There aren't many names you can possibly list and you're choosing not to do it.

 

For me, the only for sure MLB arms in the system are Brown, Wahl, Supak, Rasmussen, Devin, Ponce, Ashby and half of them are pen arms. I think Ponce gets traded this month anyway and Devin very well could as well. Houser is a pen arm (and no longer a prospect). Small hasn't thrown a pro pitch yet. Bickford I'm just happy he's still breathing. Kirby is injured again.

 

Then there's a bunch of dudes at every level we still have no idea how it'll play out - Sanchez, Derby, Webb, File, Marcos Diplan, Lemons, Bettinger, Griep, Barker, Clayton Andrews, Lazar, Hill, etc. Most of these guys will probably never see the MLB level.

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I’m getting tired of hearing with absolute certainty that Houser is a pen arm > Hogwash!

 

The brewers think your wrong and so do I.

 

If your right, and those 7 you listed are mlb pitchers, that’s 6 that could be added in the next year and a half, since they are all at AA or AAA, except Ashby, who’s arguably one of our top 2 pitching prospects and could if all goes just right, also make the big club within said time frame. You just made my argument.

 

Most teams would be ecstatic to add 7 mlb pitchers to their staff in two, even if it was 3 years.

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What I said was: Rasmussen has the ARSENAL of a Tor, not that he would be an ace.

 

Your right about the hyperbole, that’s my middle name. I can’t help myself. When people sandbag so much here on this site, I can’t help my non-tempered true thoughts from coming out, although I can say I’ve gotten better on that front lately, even if only slightly.

 

Toby says it’s underrated, especially on the pitching side, then people should just know that it is, and not pay a whole lot of attention to publications ratings.

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A relatively newer digital publication came out with their midseason top 100 prospect list (ranked in terms of fantasy baseball value)...

 

Prospects Live: Top 100 Midseason Fantasy Prospects for 2019

 

This list is written from the lens of fantasy baseball value, but is interesting to read through if you want to learn about a handful of players that haven’t appeared on the other more traditional midseason top 100 list. With the fantasy baseball tie-in the list skews more heavily towards stat based production. It also includes 2019 draftees.

 

They include two players within the Brewers organization...

 

5. Keston Hiura, 2B (MIL) - Coming into the season many viewed Hiura as possessing one of the best hit tools in the minors, but it’s his power gains that have been the story in 2019. Likely up in Milwaukee for good, Hiura has made loads of hard contact but has also been aggressive at the plate. Previous Rank: 9.

 

88. Trent Grisham, OF (MIL) - One of 2019’s biggest popup prospects, Grisham is back on the prospect map after his tremendous success in Double-A and now Triple-A. The 22-year-old is hitting .259/.370/.517 on the year and if you remove a very slow April, he’s up to .271/.393/.568. Since May 1 he’s walked more than he’s struck out and has shown great power (.296 ISO and top 10% in AAA flyball distance). If you want to knock him it’s that he’s slightly pull heavy so he’ll have to fight against the shift. But we’re drooling about the thought of a power lefty bat in Miller Park. Go and grab him if he’s available. Previous Rank: None.

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THIS FARM SYSTEM IS SEVERELY UNDERRATED, especially in the pitching department. We have an awful lot of under the radar, pitchability type pitchers that don’t get the attention of most because of whatever reason. The Stearns regime has, imo, done an amazing job of drafting AND developing. The fruits of which, will, over the coming years, make themselves known quite loudly.

Who? Besides Woodruff. The Brewers have a bottom 10 farm system right now, they don't have a true game changer outside of Hiura, and he's about to graduate off the list anyway.

 

 

Turang. Also, despite Brew Crew 92's absurd level of optimism, you still have Burnes, Peralta, Rassmussen and several others with upside.

 

But Turang is the next elite prospect from this system.

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That's not an answer. Anybody in rookie ball is immediately disqualified because they're several years away from knowing what any of them could be. Which leaves us with 4 teams rosters to choose from. There aren't many names you can possibly list and you're choosing not to do it.

 

For me, the only for sure MLB arms in the system are Brown, Wahl, Supak, Rasmussen, Devin, Ponce, Ashby and half of them are pen arms. I think Ponce gets traded this month anyway and Devin very well could as well. Houser is a pen arm (and no longer a prospect). Small hasn't thrown a pro pitch yet. Bickford I'm just happy he's still breathing. Kirby is injured again.

 

Then there's a bunch of dudes at every level we still have no idea how it'll play out - Sanchez, Derby, Webb, File, Marcos Diplan, Lemons, Bettinger, Griep, Barker, Clayton Andrews, Lazar, Hill, etc. Most of these guys will probably never see the MLB level.

 

How about Dubon?

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A relatively newer digital publication came out with their midseason top 100 prospect list (ranked in terms of fantasy baseball value)...

 

Prospects Live: Top 100 Midseason Fantasy Prospects for 2019

 

This list is written from the lens of fantasy baseball value, but is interesting to read through if you want to learn about a handful of players that haven’t appeared on the other more traditional midseason top 100 list. With the fantasy baseball tie-in the list skews more heavily towards stat based production. It also includes 2019 draftees.

 

They include two players within the Brewers organization...

 

5. Keston Hiura, 2B (MIL) - Coming into the season many viewed Hiura as possessing one of the best hit tools in the minors, but it’s his power gains that have been the story in 2019. Likely up in Milwaukee for good, Hiura has made loads of hard contact but has also been aggressive at the plate. Previous Rank: 9.

 

88. Trent Grisham, OF (MIL) - One of 2019’s biggest popup prospects, Grisham is back on the prospect map after his tremendous success in Double-A and now Triple-A. The 22-year-old is hitting .259/.370/.517 on the year and if you remove a very slow April, he’s up to .271/.393/.568. Since May 1 he’s walked more than he’s struck out and has shown great power (.296 ISO and top 10% in AAA flyball distance). If you want to knock him it’s that he’s slightly pull heavy so he’ll have to fight against the shift. But we’re drooling about the thought of a power lefty bat in Miller Park. Go and grab him if he’s available. Previous Rank: None.

 

 

It kinda blows my mind that a guy who was at one point considered the top pick in the draft last year and who comes and starts out the year in Low A, hovers around .300/.400 all year long and has great speed doesn't make the top 100.

 

But hey, if Grisham is this highly regarded, this would be a good time to trade him IMO.

 

 

If we don't come out of the break and go on a little run in the next 20 days, everyone should be made available, but if we do, Grisham should be the top prospect we push.

 

 

I think we have a better system than others. First of all, I think we need to start rethinking the "just a pen arm," phrase as though it's a huge deterrent. Really good pen arms as I think Ponce will be, Rasmussen will be, or others make everything easier.

 

Hell, our first round pick this year could be used in a manner similar to Hader(*we're not going to find another Hader, but we CAN use pitchers similar to how we used Hader last year when he was most effective). That's nothing to sneeze at.

 

You can live with a rotation with...for argument sake, Woodruff and Burnes at your top two guys(there's really no question Burnes is capable of being a TOR arm. Not an ace, but a good #2 and Woodruff is already a really good #2). Peralta could be a #3/4 or a nice reliever. And then you have about 10 guys who could be really good relievers by next year.

 

You can afford to lean on the pen and go to them early and often if you have one or two guys who can go 6-7 each time out and you have a deep and versatile BP.

 

The Brewers don't have a Padres like system(obviously) but they have one where they can fill in just about any other spot. They have a utility IF'er who looks like he could hit in Dubon, we have a good looking young loogy in Daniel Brown, we have a ton of young catchers, never know who'll stick there.

 

 

The difference is, this system is exciting if your big league team is performing like it should be. If Peralta, Burnes, Aguilar, Shaw, Moose, Grandal, Braun, Cain, Yellich, Arcia, Jeffress, Hader are all performing a reasonable amount above or below their expected performance. Instead you have Peralta, Burnes, Aggie, Shaw, Cain performing about =12 WAR below they should be. Jeffress and Arcia doing enough to kinda go under the radar, and just Yelly, Woody, Hader, Moose, Grandal the only ones meeting or exceeding expectations.

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A relatively newer digital publication came out with their midseason top 100 prospect list (ranked in terms of fantasy baseball value)...

 

Prospects Live: Top 100 Midseason Fantasy Prospects for 2019

 

This list is written from the lens of fantasy baseball value, but is interesting to read through if you want to learn about a handful of players that haven’t appeared on the other more traditional midseason top 100 list. With the fantasy baseball tie-in the list skews more heavily towards stat based production. It also includes 2019 draftees.

 

They include two players within the Brewers organization...

 

5. Keston Hiura, 2B (MIL) - Coming into the season many viewed Hiura as possessing one of the best hit tools in the minors, but it’s his power gains that have been the story in 2019. Likely up in Milwaukee for good, Hiura has made loads of hard contact but has also been aggressive at the plate. Previous Rank: 9.

 

88. Trent Grisham, OF (MIL) - One of 2019’s biggest popup prospects, Grisham is back on the prospect map after his tremendous success in Double-A and now Triple-A. The 22-year-old is hitting .259/.370/.517 on the year and if you remove a very slow April, he’s up to .271/.393/.568. Since May 1 he’s walked more than he’s struck out and has shown great power (.296 ISO and top 10% in AAA flyball distance). If you want to knock him it’s that he’s slightly pull heavy so he’ll have to fight against the shift. But we’re drooling about the thought of a power lefty bat in Miller Park. Go and grab him if he’s available. Previous Rank: None.

 

 

It kinda blows my mind that a guy who was at one point considered the top pick in the draft last year and who comes and starts out the year in Low A, hovers around .300/.400 all year long and has great speed doesn't make the top 100.

 

Specific to fantasy baseball, power > speed. Power leads to HR, RBI, OPS, etc. Turang is also only in low A, now high A. Turang in my opinion is the better prospects, but I can see how fantasy gurus are more intrigued by Grisham right now.

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A quick question for everyone who will be the Top 5 Potential Starting Pitching in the Minor League Systems right now.

 

Coming into the season it was Brown, Ashby, Webb, Supak & Diplan on the BF.net top 25.

 

Small is for sure in there now. Brown, Webb & Diplan all seem to have tenuous grasps on their spots at the moment.

 

Rasmussen is another possibility at this point, though I think he ends up in the pen. I love Andrews but think he is a reliever (& center fielder, of course!) too.

 

My personal top 5 starting pitching prospects right now are probably Ashby, Small, Supak, Zavolas, Lazar.

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thank you for the feedback what about File?

 

Love his production so far this season, cut his walks while increasing his strikeouts & moved up two levels from last year. Not bad for a 21st round pick out of a small school in the baseball hotbed of Utah.

 

It would appear the organization is higher on File than Zavolas since he already got the bump to AA.

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