Corey Kluber available?

[Eye Black]

A blog called Diamond Digest proposes the following, Five Potential Trades for Corey Kluber.

 

It includes this proposal: Milwaukee Brewers Trade OF Corey Ray, RHP Trey Supak, and OF Tristen Lutz for RHP Corey Kluber

 

 

That would be an unbelievable trade from the Brewers standpoint, but tough to imagine the Indians moving Kluber for that package.

[wildcat2237]

A blog called Diamond Digest proposes the following, Five Potential Trades for Corey Kluber.

 

It includes this proposal: Milwaukee Brewers Trade OF Corey Ray, RHP Trey Supak, and OF Tristen Lutz for RHP Corey Kluber

 

 

That would be an unbelievable trade from the Brewers standpoint, but tough to imagine the Indians moving Kluber for that package.

 

I like Ray and Lutz, but no way that happens....

[rickh150]

Substitute Peralta for Supak and it might get done.

[PeaveyFury]

I make that trade (and with rick's modification as well) for sure, personally.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

I make that trade (and with rick's modification as well) for sure, personally.

 

Me too. Kluber is an ace with multiple years of control. He's exactly the type of pitcher the Brewers should be pursuing. They would be so lucky to get him for that proposed offer.

[pogokat]

I dont think there's anyway the Indians would make that deal

[KCBrewerfan34]

Morosi tweeted we are still discussing Kluber?

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Morosi tweeted we are still discussing Kluber?

 

I'm really starting to get an Ahab/White Whale vibe from Stearns and his pursuit of a #1 starter. The Brewers have literally been linked to every decent starter who has theoretically come onto the market for the last 1 1/2 years. Stearns doesn't seem to have any issue acquiring top players at other positions, but just hasn't been able to pull the trigger on a top starter, despite being linked to so many. Will this be the offseason that it finally happens?

[MrTPlush]

Stearns doesn't seem to have any issue acquiring top players at other positions, but just hasn't been able to pull the trigger on a top starter, despite being linked to so many. Will this be the offseason that it finally happens?

 

Personally I think it will be hard for Stearns to ever find a #1 starter or so to his liking price wise. He seems to be following the recent trend to spend big, whether that be draft/FA/trade, on positional players that are less risky investments and get pitching by more creative means. It is much easier to take a Chacin/Miley and tweak them to have success you would not expect. Hitters are more face value. What you see is what you get.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Stearns doesn't seem to have any issue acquiring top players at other positions, but just hasn't been able to pull the trigger on a top starter, despite being linked to so many. Will this be the offseason that it finally happens?

 

Personally I think it will be hard for Stearns to ever find a #1 starter or so to his liking price wise. He seems to be following the recent trend to spend big, whether that be draft/FA/trade, on positional players that are less risky investments and get pitching by more creative means. It is much easier to take a Chacin/Miley and tweak them to have success you would not expect. Hitters are more face value. What you see is what you get.

 

I totally get what you are saying, as that is exactly the way they have operated. At the same time, though, while some of the talk may be just smoke, there's so much of it that there has to be some fire there. Perhaps position players are simply easier to acquire via trade? Perhaps the Brewers just have a different value system on pitchers than the other teams in the league do, and that explains why they haven't been able to make a deal for one. Obviously every GM in the league would like to acquire a top arm at his price. Who knows? Maybe Stearns is on someone no one s even thinking about.

[RollieTime]

 

I totally get what you are saying, as that is exactly the way they have operated. At the same time, though, while some of the talk may be just smoke, there's so much of it that there has to be some fire there. Perhaps position players are simply easier to acquire via trade? Perhaps the Brewers just have a different value system on pitchers than the other teams in the league do, and that explains why they haven't been able to make a deal for one. Obviously every GM in the league would like to acquire a top arm at his price. Who knows? Maybe Stearns is on someone no one s even thinking about.

 

Blake Snell anyone?

[rickh150]

Stearns doesn't seem to have any issue acquiring top players at other positions, but just hasn't been able to pull the trigger on a top starter, despite being linked to so many. Will this be the offseason that it finally happens?

 

Personally I think it will be hard for Stearns to ever find a #1 starter or so to his liking price wise. He seems to be following the recent trend to spend big, whether that be draft/FA/trade, on positional players that are less risky investments and get pitching by more creative means. It is much easier to take a Chacin/Miley and tweak them to have success you would not expect. Hitters are more face value. What you see is what you get.

 

Doing what Chacin or Miley did last year is not the norm for back of the rotation types on short deals.... extremely rare to sign these type of guys and have them perform so well. Best not to plan on that happening yearly, be it Stearns or anyone else.

That being said, I expect Miley and a better 2B option not named Hiura to be on the team come late March.

[monty57]

Stearns doesn't seem to have any issue acquiring top players at other positions, but just hasn't been able to pull the trigger on a top starter, despite being linked to so many. Will this be the offseason that it finally happens?

 

Personally I think it will be hard for Stearns to ever find a #1 starter or so to his liking price wise. He seems to be following the recent trend to spend big, whether that be draft/FA/trade, on positional players that are less risky investments and get pitching by more creative means. It is much easier to take a Chacin/Miley and tweak them to have success you would not expect. Hitters are more face value. What you see is what you get.

 

Our pitching staff should include quite a few guys who either came up through the Brewer farm or were picked up while they were still in the minors. I think Stearns wants do everything he can to load up every position at every level of the farm and see what shakes out. Let the guys play things out, and when what he sees as a tremendous value emerges, he jumps (Yelich, Cain, Grandal).

 

The time he veered from this was Schoop, where he kind of made a move to make a move, and he's admitted that was a mistake.

 

If this holds true, he will only get a "#1/TOR" pitcher when the price looks like a good deal for the Brewers. It's good that he's in on every guy who would be a significant upgrade to our current rotation. There's no harm in testing the waters, and he seems to be sticking to his guns and not overpaying. I'd love to see Kluber as a Brewer, but only if it's in a deal that makes sense for the Brewers and doesn't kill them long-term.

[MrTPlush]

Stearns doesn't seem to have any issue acquiring top players at other positions, but just hasn't been able to pull the trigger on a top starter, despite being linked to so many. Will this be the offseason that it finally happens?

 

Personally I think it will be hard for Stearns to ever find a #1 starter or so to his liking price wise. He seems to be following the recent trend to spend big, whether that be draft/FA/trade, on positional players that are less risky investments and get pitching by more creative means. It is much easier to take a Chacin/Miley and tweak them to have success you would not expect. Hitters are more face value. What you see is what you get.

 

Doing what Chacin or Miley did last year is not the norm for back of the rotation types on short deals.... extremely rare to sign these type of guys and have them perform so well. Best not to plan on that happening yearly, be it Stearns or anyone else.

That being said, I expect Miley and a better 2B option not named Hiura to be on the team come late March.

 

Actually it happens all the time every single year and some teams always find ways to make guys overachieve. Cardinals did it for years.

[rickh150]

[

Doing what Chacin or Miley did last year is not the norm for back of the rotation types on short deals.... extremely rare to sign these type of guys and have them perform so well. Best not to plan on that happening yearly, be it Stearns or anyone else.

That being said, I expect Miley and a better 2B option not named Hiura to be on the team come late March.

 

Actually it happens all the time every single year and some teams always find ways to make guys overachieve. Cardinals did it for years.

 

 

Overachieve? Sure. How could I go against that?

Pitching like a #1 type? Rare. Both Chacin and Miley were doing that in the second half, and they needed both of their elite performances to not only win the division, but even just to make the playoffs.

[JackNicholson1974]

Maybe Stearns is trying to recreate the Cain/Yelich scenario from last year with trading for Kluber and signing Kuechel on the same day. Maybe?

[rickh150]

Maybe Stearns is trying to recreate the Cain/Yelich scenario from last year with trading for Kluber and signing Kuechel on the same day. Maybe?

 

Wouldn't that be incredible? I wouldn't be able to get to sleep that evening.

[Warning Track Power]

Maybe Stearns is trying to recreate the Cain/Yelich scenario from last year with trading for Kluber and signing Kuechel on the same day. Maybe?

Or trading for both Kluber and Bumgarner...

 

Would be a blast to be able to be a big market.

[brewerfan82]

In that situation, would you be willing to trade Hiura (plus others) to get Kluber (in addition to signing Keuchel). And then with your excess pitching, turn around and trade one or both of Peralta/Woodruff (plus others) to get Whit Merrifield? That's some video game GM'ing, but you'd end up with a ridiculous rotation and lineup.

[trwi7]

Morosi tweeted we are still discussing Kluber?

 

I'm really starting to get an Ahab/White Whale vibe from Stearns and his pursuit of a #1 starter. The Brewers have literally been linked to every decent starter who has theoretically come onto the market for the last 1 1/2 years. Stearns doesn't seem to have any issue acquiring top players at other positions, but just hasn't been able to pull the trigger on a top starter, despite being linked to so many. Will this be the offseason that it finally happens?

 

I honestly think this is more media driven than anything. Media thinks the Brewers absolutely need a top of the rotation starter, so they hear whispers that the Brewers are talking about them, which they probably are but if a deal gets done, they want it done on their terms at their price. Media then takes this interest and inflates it to a level that Stearns is desperately looking around for a top of the rotation starter.

[rickh150]

Of course, the trade and FA signing would have to make cents. Maybe 3 years for 45 for Kuechel and a package of Ray, Peralta, and Lutz.

[Madhawk23]

Of course, the trade and FA signing would have to make cents. Maybe 3 years for 45 for Kuechel and a package of Ray, Peralta, and Lutz.

 

I don't think a package of Ray, Peralta and Lutz gets it done for Kluber (assuming that is who you are talking about). I'm guessing you'd have to go Hiura, Woodruff and Lutz, or a package of Burnes, Ray and Zack Brown.

 

Boy, in that scenario - you'd be taking on at least 15M a year (for at least three years) with Keuchel and over 17M a year for the next three years with Kluber. That's at least 32M we'd be adding to our payroll. It's fun to dream about, but I just can't see a small franchise like the Brewers being able to take on that salary.

 

It would no doubt make us the favorites in the National League heading into 2019 though.

[MNBrew]

I'd say the Brewers' rotation yet again profiles as quietly solid if not surprisingly above average. Stearns/Counsell together know what they've got and what they believe the guys are capable of doing. But there are no "ace" names, and that so-called deficiency is what triggers the predictors, both for low standings projections and player acquisition speculation.

 

Landing Kluber would be a pretty huge deal. I'd be pumped if that -- or Keuchel -- happened. I really like that Stearns is showing over time that he'll give up only what he feels is an appropriate return.

[ThisIsMyCrew]

Maybe Stearns is trying to recreate the Cain/Yelich scenario from last year with trading for Kluber and signing Kuechel on the same day. Maybe?

 

If he pulled that off, forget AmFam Field. Just call it Stearns Stadium.

[FVBrewerFan]

So we've gone from hoping to get Miley to getting both Kluber and Kuechel. Awesome!

 

Did you notice the Brewers were reported to be in the mix for virtually every SP last off-season? How many did they get? Zero. How about at the trade deadline? Correct, zip. That's not to say they won't trade for someone, just keep in mind chances are very slim.

 

Just doing my community service, I don't want anyone to collapse on me when April comes around and nothing has happened.